Silver Surfer's level

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#1 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

as i know Silver Surfer is powerful but i don't think his power is one of strongest character ,he have defeat cable once ,but for some reason his power seem not as tough  as thor or iron man or else.
#2 Posted by jloneblackheart (5507 posts) - - Show Bio

There's a few battles between Thor and the Surfer, but it's general consensus that, as of now, the Surfer is more powerful.  
 
Iron Man is no match for the Surfer unless he can create a device or suit to siphon the Surfer's Power Cosmic, which he is most likely capable of doing since the Black Panther has done it. 

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#3 Posted by Fire-brand (2308 posts) - - Show Bio

in general, Silver surfer is one of the most powerful heroes in marvel, but he is very vulnerable to have the power cosmic stolen from him. doctor doom, red hulk and skaar have all tried to steal the power cosmic.

#4 Edited by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart:
iron man is one of the most powerful guy in marvel not such easy  to defeat,and SS have been beat by human tech in FF2 FILM.
#5 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

who can beat silver sufer ,i think HULK can beat every marvel characters(of crouse not every time)

#6 Posted by The WeatherMan (3214 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer was not nearly as powerful in the movies as he is in the comics. He could simply turn Iron Man's armor into flower petals, then a long fall down and its over.

#7 Posted by Tmul501 (598 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385 said:
" @jloneblackheart: iron man is one of the most powerful guy in marvel not such easy  to defeat,and SS have been beat by human tech in FF2 FILM. "
I don't really know if I would call the Fantastic Four films canon. I mean, wasn't galactus just a giant space tornado in that movie?
#8 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385 said:
" who can beat silver sufer ,i think HULK can beat every marvel characters(of crouse not every time) "
Hulk can't beat Silver Surfer .
#9 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tmul501:
ture ,but ghost rider defeat galactus in FF cartoon too, not only Silver Surfer can defeat galactus.
#10 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: Cartoons are not canon , and Ghost Rider doesn't stand a chance against Galactus .
#11 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch:
hulk can ,we can't say Silver Surfer can defeat everyone everytime because we like him.
#12 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: Hulk can't beat Silver Surfer .
#13 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch: 
absolute  not ture,
#14 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: Check you grammar .
#15 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch:
i can understand why you hold on your own  because you love  Silver Surfer really much ,this question will never have certain answer ,but what writer write about SS and GR is ture ,we must respect that.
#16 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch:
SORRY ,ENGLISH IS NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE , I AM FOREGIN
抱歉英文不是我的母語
#17 Posted by Night Thrasher (3683 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: No, ghost rider, hulk, iron man are not on Surfers level. Not even in imaginationland.
#18 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: Hulk cannot beat Silver Surfer . Ghost Rider cannot beat Galactus . You're obviously a beginner in comics if you really think Hulk has a chance against Silver Surfer , or GR having chance against Galan .
#19 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@Night Thrasher:
STILL ,you can hold on your own , but for me and other millions people that's not ture .
#20 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: Oh really ? Then don't be surprised to see how many people here would say that Surfer will beat Hulk easily . That's the true .
#21 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch:
not really ,i read for years ,i still think that because you like this character too musch that you said that. 
and take easy ,i can smell your anger.
#22 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: Hulk cannot beat Silver Surfer . Not to mention Silver Surfer has already beaten Hulk twice and will do it every time .
#23 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch:
i know lot of people said that, but there is lot of people didn't think about that too. 
and i know what you feel , someone said there have billions of guys can defeat GHOST RIDER, that piss me of really much. 
remember this is marvel universe ,every thing can be happen.
#24 Posted by jloneblackheart (5507 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: Movies are definitely not canon. But I did say Iron Man could create something to siphon the Surfer's Power Cosmic, thus enabling his defeat. The were pretty wrong in how they captured the Surfer in the film. Example: the Surfer does not lose his powers when removed from his board. 
 
Surfer can't beat Galactus. Neither can Ghost Rider.  Galactus is nearly all-powerful, usually only losing a battle because he doesn't want to expend the effort or to move a plot along. 
 
The Hulk has no chance against the Surfer, as shown in the comics many times. The Surfer simply absorbs his gamma energy from him, reverting him back to Banner. He has done this several times. The only time it didn't work was when the Hulk and Banner were separated after Onslaught. Even then the Hulk was no match and made every effort to escape the battle. 
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#25 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: No , Hulk cannot beat Silver Surfer . Billions of guys can't beat GR because the quantity of characters in Marvel is much less than that .
#26 Edited by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch:
hold ,isn't HULK bite off silver surfer head in marvel zombie ,and heros take down Galactus than ate him.
#27 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

a stupid guy said SS can beat GR easily ,what a idiot.
#28 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385 said:
" a stupid guy said SS can beat GR easily ,what a idiot. "
He's not an idiot and that battle is highly debateable. And come on the surfer who flies through the center of stars, zips past supernova's and surfs blackholes with no discomfort what so ever is gonna get he's head bitten off by hulk. As far as I'm concerned that wasn't a part of main continuity.It's non canon. If she-hulk punched surfer at her hardest and he thought she bumped into him when how can Hulk bite the head of someone who's skin and body can remain whole and who feels no pain or discomfort even in the heart of a super-massive blackhole. It means the pressure he was exerting was many times greater than the gravitational weight of a blackhole which is so great light cannot escape and any mass caught in it is wiped from existence. 
 
Just clearing it up. This is like the time black panther put surfer in an armlock.lol.
#29 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

even befor annialation she hulk hurt her hand when she punched him in the face classic thor beat classic surfer a couple times but since his upgrade he shitrocked beta ray bill who is Thor's equal  or very close to it
#30 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus:
i still think SILVER SURFER can't beat GHOST RIDER easily (and i still think that guy is idiot),GHOST RIDER is really powerful(if you read lot of ghost rider you will know) 
anyway ,non canon doesn't mead it won't happen ,beacuse anything is possible in marvel.
#31 Posted by chris thompson (858 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385 said:
"who can beat silver sufer ,i think HULK can beat every marvel characters(of crouse not every time) "

Hulk can not beat Surfer. Surfer is WAY out of Hulk's leage.They have also fought several times and Surfer has won easily almost every time.
#32 Posted by chris thompson (858 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385 said:
"@difficlus: i still think SILVER SURFER can't beat GHOST RIDER easily (and i still think that guy is idiot),GHOST RIDER is really powerful(if you read lot of ghost rider you will know) anyway ,non canon doesn't mead it won't happen ,beacuse anything is possible in marvel. "

Surfers transmutation powers alone would defeat GR.
#33 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@chris thompson:
no, you said that because you like silver surfer more, it's not ture.
#34 Posted by Fire-brand (2308 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385: do you realize how childish that sounds?
#35 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@chris thompson:
silver surfer not even close to GOD,he just a server of galactus ,but ghost rider is Jehovah's weapon.
#36 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fire-brand:
you mean i talk about GR VS SS or i said silver surfer    can't beat GR. 
if it's about i talk about GR VS SS ,i didn't start this ,a idiot said SS can beat GR "easily"   make me piss,i do not know   SS can beat GR or not ,but it will never be"easily"    
#37 Posted by jloneblackheart (5507 posts) - - Show Bio

The only hope Ghost Rider has of winning is the penance stare, which should work on the Surfer (who is responsible for the deaths of billions), but then again he's been down that road before and has come to accept what he has done. 

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#38 Posted by Omegaman10 (541 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385:
SS is pretty powerful, his powerset puts him IMO above Thor, making one of the strongest beings (not including galactus, celestials, etc.) 
Hes also way too much for hulk to handle....hulk has superstrength, SS had superstrength + power cosmic and whole lot of other powers...i dont think hulk would be able to do a thing to current SS.
#39 Posted by GT-Man (4054 posts) - - Show Bio

yah
#40 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fire-brand:
you're the childish one

#41 Posted by chris thompson (858 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385 said:
"@chris thompson: no, you said that because you like silver surfer more, it's not ture. "

Dude, Im a HUGE Hulk fan and even I know Hulk can't beat Surfer.
#42 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@chris thompson:
i read your list ,hulk is top 4 ,ss is top 3 ,what about venom vs ss?
#43 Posted by jloneblackheart (5507 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385 said:
" @chris thompson: i read your list ,hulk is top 4 ,ss is top 3 ,what about venom vs ss? "
now you are obviously joking
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#44 Posted by Omegaman10 (541 posts) - - Show Bio
@ka385385:
do you seriously not know who would win that??
#45 Posted by Mercy_ (92686 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tmul501 said:
" @ka385385 said:
" @jloneblackheart: iron man is one of the most powerful guy in marvel not such easy  to defeat,and SS have been beat by human tech in FF2 FILM. "
I don't really know if I would call the Fantastic Four films canon. I mean, wasn't galactus just a giant space tornado in that movie? "
The movies are most definitely NOT canon and I believe that Galactus was based off of his Ultimate Universe counterpart.
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#46 Posted by CharlieJade (422 posts) - - Show Bio

 VS. PROF. X: Yeah, you guessed it, between the Surfer’s incomprehensible speed and indomitable will, Prof. X may give the Surfer a run for his money in chess, but not in combat.

VS. SPAWN: The Surfer’s faced down Mephisto, Marvel’s version of Satan, so a Satan-flunkie like Spawn ain’t gonna do much that the Surfer hasn’t overcome before.

VS. DR. STRANGE: Dr. Strange is a human conduit of magic with human frailties, while the Surfer can stand at the center of a super-nova without breaking a sweat. It might take a couple of hours, but Strange would burn himself out trying to dent the Surfer.

VS. FLASH: Sorry, the SUrfer is faster than the Flash, with the power of the universe at his command. Once you take away his speed, Wally is just a guy. G’night, Wally.

VS. WONDER WOMAN: Diana may be a better fight, but the Surfer is faster, tougher and more powerful. Ten bucks says Wonder Woman’s bracelets aren’t up to deflecting the power cosmic.

VS. SUPERMAN: While Supes might land a couple of blows as the Surfer is trying to talk to him, our bald buddy Norrin could either hammer Supes into submission with the power cosmic or suck all the solar energy out of him with his energy manipulation powers.

VS. THOR: Surfer’s power cosmic is fairly evenly matched with Mjolnir (whose magical properies aren’t affected by the universe’s laws of physics), which would absorb/deflect Surfer’s power for a while. While Surfer couldn’t do much physical damage to Thor, Thor would hammer the Surfer unconscious ... if he could hit’em. And even though Mjolnir could block Surfer’s powerful blasts, some would eventually land. As the battle progressed, more and more of the Surfer’s blows would connect until one super-blast of the power cosmic would put the Odinson down for the count. And the worst part? The Surfer, one of the most noble spirits in the universe, would search the rubble after the fight, grab Mjolnir and head off to Disneyworld.

#47 Posted by Fire-brand (2308 posts) - - Show Bio
@CharlieJade: i seriously doubt that the surfer could bring down spawn. but thats just me
#48 Edited by CharlieJade (422 posts) - - Show Bio

 A crazy bloodlusted Surfer not holding back would kill your regular Spawn with speed, Spawn has never fought anyone as fast as Surfer.  Plus Surfer can always pull off insane moves like dump people at the end of the universe or transmute them into a bunch of flowers or he has done other tricks like attacking people's spiritual form. Spawn has not seen even half the crazy stuff Surfer has done over the years.
 
 Surfer on an normal day would trash Hulk and Superman both at the same time, 
Spawn on any normal day is not a guaranteed bet. A lot of people can take Spawn with a bit of luck
 The reason I don't buy into the Spawn hype is I think Spawn's power base doesn't really exist, his power goes up and down like a flag pole, Spawn has had people feed off him, had his nerco meter drained or Spawn has been made powerless by artifacts from heaven. At a normal levels I think Spawn falls to Surfer,  he's got some low showings like he can be the type of magical dude who has trouble with punks with guns or gorillas enhanced with cybernetic parts

but it all depends who writes it, if McDuffie wrote I'm sure Surfer would randomly fall off his surfboard and get killed by an armlock. Or if Spawn is amped up to some immortal God/Devil level with infinite levels of  necroplasm pouring out of his eyes I guess he wins by default
 
btw the above post   
Surfer
VS PROF X
 VS. SPAWN: 
VS SUPERMAN
.VS. DR. STRANGE
 
...its not mine, it comes from the old Wizard magazine
I just happen to agree with their post

#49 Edited by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@CharlieJade: 

VS. SPAWN: The Surfer’s faced down Mephisto, Marvel’s version of Satan, so a Satan-flunkie like Spawn ain’t gonna do much that the Surfer hasn’t overcome before. 
WRONG!!!Mephisto is just a little devil ,Satan is more powerful.     
VS. FLASH: Sorry, the SUrfer is faster than the Flash, with the power of the universe at his command. Once you take away his speed, Wally is just a guy. G’night, Wally.
CAN silver surfer do time travel?    
#50 Posted by ka385385 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart:
i believe ask a VENOM big fan silver surfer vs venom who will win ,his answer might be venom

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