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Sherlock Holmes

Character » Sherlock Holmes appears in 263 issues.

A world-famous detective

Is Sherlock Holmes really in the public domain?

#1 Posted by HammerTron (353 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

If Sherlock Holmes is really in the public domain why haven't more publishers tried to make use of this well known character and add him to their existing stable of characters?

#2 Posted by arnoldoaad (931 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@HammerTron:

He Is

which is why he has been used in DC meeting Batman and then in Wildstorm meeting Elijah Snow, and he was kind of important in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

#3 Posted by HammerTron (353 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Ah! I must have missed those comic books. In that case I would be very interesting if Sherlock Holmes joined the Justice League. I'm sure he'd fit right in being a very popular and well known character.

#4 Posted by arnoldoaad (931 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@HammerTron said:

Ah! I must have missed those comic books. In that case I would be very interesting if Sherlock Holmes joined the Justice League. I'm sure he'd fit right in being a very popular and well known character.

that would be very pointless

thats the point of Batman, in fact Holmes was one of the 3 main inspirations for Batman, the other 2 were The Shadow and Zorro

#5 Posted by HammerTron (353 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

It would certainly be interesting, but I doubt DC would do that because Sherlock Holmes doesn't have a 'super hero' feel to him. DC, or any other publisher, could make use of the Sherlock Holmes character to fill out their universe with well known characters. It would be interesting.

#6 Posted by arnoldoaad (931 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@HammerTron said:

It would certainly be interesting, but I doubt DC would do that because Sherlock Holmes doesn't have a 'super hero' feel to him. DC, or any other publisher, could make use of the Sherlock Holmes character to fill out their universe with well known characters. It would be interesting.

If Sherlock existed in the DCU then i would love to see certain ties to Batman in any ways

#7 Posted by HammerTron (353 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

It just wouldn't be fun if Sherlock Holmes were to be stuck in the past and merely used as an inspiration for Batman. However, if he were to exist in present day continuity it would add a man out of time dimension that really isn't part of the character. It would be tought to make it work.

#8 Posted by arnoldoaad (931 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@HammerTron said:

It just wouldn't be fun if Sherlock Holmes were to be stuck in the past and merely used as an inspiration for Batman. However, if he were to exist in present day continuity it would add a man out of time dimension that really isn't part of the character. It would be tought to make it work.

I was thinking more of the Planetary approach

in Planetary, the main Character Elijah Snow is immortal and when he was young he meets an old Sherlock Holmes and he teaches him all that he knows, so maybe Elijah can teach Batman, but there is also the fact that Elijah is property of Warren Ellis and John Cassidy so thta might never happen

#9 Posted by HammerTron (353 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

That's certainly an interesting idea. Did that happen in a comic book?

#10 Posted by arnoldoaad (931 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@HammerTron said:

That's certainly an interesting idea. Did that happen in a comic book?

yeah

Planetary #13

He also meet Dracula, use his powers to freeze him and then he kick him in the crotch

Is the best thing that Ellis ever wrote

#11 Posted by HammerTron (353 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

That looks interesting. I'll look for it. Thank you.

#12 Posted by tupiaz (694 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

I feel it would be rather stupid to incorporate Sherlock Holmes in the DC universe. First of all he is a London icon, not an US icon. Secondly he does fit in the universe of super heroes. Holmes belongs in a world around the late 19th century. It would make more sense to put him in the world of Van Helsing. Just because a big fictional figure is public domain doesn’t mean you should use it.

#13 Posted by arnoldoaad (931 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

I feel it would be rather stupid to incorporate Sherlock Holmes in the DC universe. First of all he is a London icon, not an US icon.

He is a World Icon, not just from London or England

he is like Superman after renouncing citizenship of US in AC 900, XD

Secondly he does fit in the universe of super heroes. Holmes belongs in a world around the late 19th century. It would make more sense to put him in the world of Van Helsing. Just because a big fictional figure is public domain doesn’t mean you should use it.

there is nothing bad about it if its done tastefully like in the Planetary case or in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

#14 Posted by tupiaz (694 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Sherlock Holmes lives in London at Baker Street (221B that is) moving him from here would be like taking Batman away from Gotham. I haven't read League of Extraordinary but it takes place in late 19th century, so far I understand League of Extraordinary is a total different from DC or Marvel universe it is more like a Van Helsing universe.

#15 Posted by arnoldoaad (931 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

Sherlock Holmes lives in London at Baker Street (221B that is) moving him from here would be like taking Batman away from Gotham. I haven't read League of Extraordinary but it takes place in late 19th century, so far I understand League of Extraordinary is a total different from DC or Marvel universe it is more like a Van Helsing universe.

I never said anything about moving him from there, and not moving him doesnt meant that it cant be used in a good way, like a Booster Gold comic for example

#16 Posted by tupiaz (694 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Just because you feel he belongs in a super hero universe doesn’t make it correct. If you think he belongs in DC/Marvel/Super hero universe you better give some good reason for this else you are just giving your feelings for it without giving any real reasons. For me it is rather pointless for reason already made.

#17 Edited by arnoldoaad (931 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

Just because you feel he belongs in a super hero universe doesn’t make it correct. If you think he belongs in DC/Marvel/Super hero universe you better give some good reason for this else you are just giving your feelings for it without giving any real reasons. For me it is rather pointless for reason already made.

I never said he belongs in a superhero universe, i just pointed out that crossovers have indeed already happen and in some cases have been interesting, so seeing it a gain, might indeed be interesting

Also, even thought Holmes was never the first superhero or anything like that he was a great inspiration for other great heroes like Batman, and in the other hand Moriarty is indeed considerate as the first Supervillain

Holmes meeting Batman is no more rare than Batman meeting Doc Savage, which happen 2 years ago

#18 Posted by quirky_anecdotes (344 posts) - 2 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

Is tupiaz insane? Holmes is a world icon. Just loo at the success of the Holmes Films with Robert Downey JR. as Holmes (RDJ is an american.) and the success of Elementary on CBS?

Seriously you sound like an Xenophobic Fool when you talk like that.

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