She-Hulk's Strength class?

#1 Posted by Kyuubifreak (84 posts) - - Show Bio

How much can she Press/lift when she is calm and angry? They did not said how much she can lift when calm or angry.
#2 Posted by Kyuubifreak (84 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kyuubifreak: 
 

no one know?
#3 Posted by fanboy#1 (1050 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio

She is Class !00
She can lift routinely well over 100 tons
But her max has not been calculated

#5 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrongestOneThereIs said:
" She is Class !00 She can lift routinely well over 100 tons But her max has not been calculated "
This.
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#6 Posted by Kyuubifreak (84 posts) - - Show Bio
@fanboy#1:
i read the bio but it didnt state how much she can press and lift. all it said is she have similar powers to the Hulk
#7 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kyuubifreak said:
" @fanboy#1: i read the bio but it didnt state how much she can press and lift. all it said is she have similar powers to the Hulk "
There is no stated limit to how much she can lift so therefore he can't tell you.All he can say is she lifts thousands of tons.
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#8 Posted by Kyuubifreak (84 posts) - - Show Bio

cool, so she is one of the strongest woman in marvel

#9 Posted by connormc (9 posts) - - Show Bio

Class 100+ but calm round about 75tons I think
#10 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" She is Class !00 She can lift routinely well over 100 tons But her max has not been calculated "
This. "
yep.
#11 Posted by BullyBoy5000 (6 posts) - - Show Bio

She-Hulk can lift and press 75 tons max. Source Marvel Universe who's who guide.
#12 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@BullyBoy5000 said:
" She-Hulk can lift and press 75 tons max. Source Marvel Universe who's who guide. "
She's Hulk has been above Class 75 for over 20 years....
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#13 Posted by BullyBoy5000 (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Really? How is that?

#14 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@BullyBoy5000 said:
" Really? How is that? "
She's had strength upgrades....
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#15 Posted by mister garbage (365 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @BullyBoy5000 said:
" Really? How is that? "
She's had strength upgrades.... "
Indeed. She bulked up and trained as Jen Walters which pumped her up even higher as She-Hulk.
#16 Posted by Bridgeman (20 posts) - - Show Bio

What is the biggest thing she ever lifted? 

#17 Edited by mister garbage (365 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bridgeman: Well - she can out-lift the Thing one handed:
#18 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@mister garbage: 
Not trying to be mean, but avoid using stuff where She-Hulk is in the suit you see there 
since it augments her abilities, as its even stated on that very page.
#19 Posted by mister garbage (365 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE: Ehm... it just helps her keep control over the immense power increase she gained after training in outer space...

#20 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@mister garbage: 
i actually missed the ish. got the number? it seems that everyone outside of yourself states that her power-up 
was only temporary and the suit shes wearing signifies which feats occur with that power-up.
#21 Posted by mister garbage (365 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE: She-Hulk vol. 1 #009 - January 2005
 
I don't think it was a temporary power-up. She trained for 3 months in outer-space as Jen Walters and when she turned into She-Hulk she had so much more power she was having a hard time containing it at first.
#22 Edited by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
kkn
#23 Edited by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@mister garbage: 
sorry i read them, plus your not telling the truth. she didnt get the power up until issue 8 when she fought Champion, she gained the suit in issue 9. she lost that upgrade afterwords and as a result no longer required the suit.
 
again, you shouldnt post scans of a character using a temporary upgrade as a testament of
their normal strength class.
#24 Posted by mister garbage (365 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE: Dude what the hell are you talking about? I have the entire series right in front of me. I'm not 'telling the truth'? I just re-read these last week and scanned over them again before responding to your last comment. Go back and re-read them yourself. 
 
The power was never said to be 'temporary' and the suit didn't give her any extra boost - it kept her power in check for her so she didn't overuse it unnecessarily - like when she went to check on her goldfish and tore up half the town trying to get there. She-Hulk v1 ends w/Jen not being able to change into She-Hulk due to a mental block - it says NOTHING about the extra power she gained being taken away from her. She worked out and trained as JEN WALTERS - which makes She-Hulk stronger by proxy. Unless Jen Walters goes back in time and UN-trains, that power is always going to be available.
 
The scan you asked me about came from issue #9, FYI - when she gets the Jupiter suit from Reed Richards.
#25 Edited by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@mister garbage: 
i know it came from issue 9, i said that, you said issue 1. for one. and no, sorry she didnt retain the power up.
it dissipated afterwords by 10, obviously because she didnt keep powering herself up in Jen Walters form,
and made very notable by the fact that she no longer wore the Jupiter suit, as she no longer needed to since
her upgrade was gone. that was the whole point of her arm wrestling Herc. she was doing what she wanted 
to do before that strength boost left her. your logic is holed in the fact she wouldnt need to Untrain. like any real person, 
if she didnt keep the constant regiment going, Jen would become weaker, even over a short period of time.
She-Hulks base strength level receded afterwords.
 
again, just advice is all. dont use scenarios where a character is temporarily amped for argument.
its the same as saying Hulk can beat Juggernaut with ease because he did so while he was a Horseman.
 
how can you honestly believe she can still do this...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
..then struggle with Blonsky, Skrulls, Strong Guy, M, Behemoth, Titania, and so on only issues later?
the suit is not only significant in telling us (and you) that she was at a greater form, but the fact that
she temporarily had a new codename as well.
#26 Posted by mister garbage (365 posts) - - Show Bio
@mister garbage said:
" @CATMANEXE: She-Hulk vol. 1 #009 - January 2005  I don't think it was a temporary power-up. She trained for 3 months in outer-space as Jen Walters and when she turned into She-Hulk she had so much more power she was having a hard time containing it at first. "
@CATMANEXE: Go ahead and read that again - i bolded the important part.
 
If you wanna argue about Hulk vs. Juggernaut go ahead over to the Hulk forum, there's been a long thread about that going on. 

You've yet to prove that that power was temporary. That run ended at issue #12 - and in those last few issues i don't see where it says that she's no longer going to be that strong when she re-Hulks up. Nor does it state anywhere that she hasn't kept up any kind of workout regimen - actually, i believe the next She-Hulk run even started out the first page with her jogging - hmmm... could this be a potential sign that she does keep up some sort of regimen?
 
No thanks for the advice - but i have some for you: Find specific instances or written/printed documentation to support your ideas before shooting down someone else's innocent post.
#27 Edited by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio

Aside form i just told you why....
 

@CATMANEXE

said:

" @mister garbage: 
i know it came from issue 9, i said that, you said issue 1. for one. and no, sorry she didnt retain the power up.
it dissipated afterwords by 10, obviously because she didnt keep powering herself up in Jen Walters form,
and made very notable by the fact that she no longer wore the Jupiter suit, as she no longer needed to since
her upgrade was gone. that was the whole point of her arm wrestling Herc. she was doing what she wanted 
to do before that strength boost left her. your logic is holed in the fact she wouldnt need to Untrain. like any real person, 
if she didnt keep the constant regiment going, Jen would become weaker, even over a short period of time.
She-Hulks base strength level receded afterwords.

 
again, just advice is all. dont use scenarios where a character is temporarily amped for argument.
its the same as saying Hulk can beat Juggernaut with ease because he did so while he was a Horseman.
 
how can you honestly believe she can still do this...

           ..then struggle with Blonsky, Skrulls, Strong Guy, M, Behemoth, Titania, and so on only issues later? the suit is not only significant in telling us (and you) that she was at a greater form, but the fact that she temporarily had a new codename as well. "
@mister garbage said:

" @mister garbage said:

" @CATMANEXE: She-Hulk vol. 1 #009 - January 2005  I don't think it was a temporary power-up. She trained for 3 months in outer-space as Jen Walters and when she turned into She-Hulk she had so much more power she was having a hard time containing it at first. "

  If you wanna argue about Hulk vs. Juggernaut go ahead over to the Hulk forum, there's been a long thread about that going on.   "
no, actually i wont, and wasnt. it was a comparison.
 

 You've yet to prove that that power was temporary.

i provided the reason, so youve actually yet to prove that she retained that power, and learned to control it without the
suit.
 

 That run ended at issue #12 - 
and in those last few issues i don't see where it says that she's no longer going to be that strong when she re-Hulks up.

i noticed you failed to see it. thats why i pointed it out to you, not to mention there were more series afterwords.
its not that hard to get, and you actually do. you just dont want to admit it because your being childish.
 
 Nor does it state anywhere that she hasn't kept up any kind of workout regimen - actually, i believe the next She-Hulk run even started out the first page with her jogging - hmmm... could this be a potential sign that she does keep up some sort of regimen?  
 
 probably not the same since she was in She-Hulk form while she was jogging? not to mention later when she was she was unable to
trun into She-Hulk anymore. sorry, but it was a one time deal. even you know this, your just being goofy.
 

No thanks for the advice - but i have some for you: Find specific instances or written/printed documentation to support your ideas before shooting down someone else's innocent post.   


 
already did, your turn.



 
the strength upgrade was temporary. she wore a suit because she couldnt control it.
she lost the upgrade, now doesnt require the suit. she didnt gain control, otherwise that would have been shown
(but you have scans of this i assume?). afterwords, she had to struggle with feats that were otherwise easy with the upgrade.
 so what was shown after, is that she no longer had access to that strength upgrade, and that she longer required the suit.
can you show otherwise? no, of course you cant.
so no your wrong. i disagee with you. the comics do. the Handbooks do as well (which were written by Tom Broovert, 
the same editor on the books in question).
#28 Edited by mister garbage (365 posts) - - Show Bio

@CATMANEXE:

A) - big-time-outdated power chart, for starters...  and it doesn't say this power change was 'temporary', it only says her power level has varied throughout her past.
 
Struggling in a fight and temporarily matching someone in an arm-wrestling contest are clearly two completely different things - one requiring more skill than the other.
 
Keep in mind also that She-Hulk is a Hulk and can alter her strength level with her emotional state. Also i suppose that her being in outer space again and beating the snot out of a Thanos clone is a minimal task too, right? 
 
Anyhow - if you look at her fight vs. Abomination - she really didn't have too much of a struggle, did she? She outclassed him the whole way through.
She struggles a little bit against a Wendigo - but even the Hulk does that - and so would Hercules - who seems to be your method of comparison to her power set.
She then takes on the U-Foes, Zzzax, and an army of Nick Fury LMD's in the same issue.
Next up - Iron Man - beat the crap out of him until he depowered her.
Fights with Creel - a tough job for anyone
Beats the snot out of some alien who threw a bear at her
Stomps a magical dude named Dark Art (Arthur Moore) breaking through his magical shield because her anger powered her up enough
She temp. teams up w/Hercules to beat some demigod and tosses him (Herc) to the ground w/ease
She seemed to struggle more with falling and the wind than she did with the SuperSkrull - but then again, who wouldn't struggle against him?
And finally... i'm looking at the page right now - she seems to have trounced Behemoth pretty easily. All he did was throw her once or twice.
  
 
It was Jen Walters running - NOT She-Hulk.


Want another - the Jupiter suit got all busted to hell and she still kept the updated power: Only thing stopping her was the gem Titania had.


There ya go - no suit - still powered. That suit was a control device. You STILL can't show that she hasn't kept the power, regardless of what you type here, it just hasn't happened yet. Not for lack of trying, i'll give you that.
 
I'll refrain from swapping insults with you ('childish'?, 'goofy'? c'mon man...)
#29 Edited by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@mister garbage: 
you just showed absolutely nothing, and worse so. 
-you showed Jen losing the power suit of all scans
- you also just showed the incident were Jen lost her ability to turn into She-Hulk (same fight with Titania)
- then you showed a scan of her running, after she lost the ability to turn into She-Hulk. 
lol. epic fail. try again another time.
 
@mister garbage said:

" @mister garbage said: 
Want another - the Jupiter suit got all busted to hell and she still kept the updated power: Only thing stopping her was the gem Titania had.

considering there wasnt a first and you posted out of context (a scan of depowered Jen jogging, get real!)
also doesnt show her keeping her power. this is right after she got powered up in the first place, and what your
showing is where she loses it. then she gets depowered right afterwords (thus we enter your above jogging scene)
stop grabbing random scans from Google and actually read the comics, instead of lying and saying " theyre right in front
of you ". your context indicates your not reading the issues.
 
so youve provided nothing so far. provide scans that says and shows she has her power upgrade all the time and occur well
after when she got them
(and lost them.lol) in the first place (because yes, depsite your earlier claim, theres a whole nother
volume, then She-Hulk costars in another two volumes after that).
 
  @mister garbage said:

"

@CATMANEXE:

A) - big-time-outdated power chart, for starters...  and it doesn't say this power change was 'temporary', it only says her power level has varied throughout her past. 

its from after World War Hulk. and after the Gladiator match and the end of Volume 2. so i beg to differ. 
and yes thats what it says, but not what it means. i know its hard for you to understand, despite how simple its written. 
 
@CATMANEXE said:



 the strength upgrade was temporary. she wore a suit because she couldnt control it. she lost the upgrade, now doesnt require the suit. she didnt gain control, otherwise that would have been shown (but you have scans of this i assume?). afterwords, she had to struggle with feats that were otherwise easy with the upgrade.  so what was shown after, is that she no longer had access to that strength upgrade, and that she longer required the suit. can you show otherwise? no, of course you cant.so no your wrong. i disagee with you. the comics do. the Handbooks do as well (which were written by Tom Broovert,  the same editor on the books in question). "
maybe try reading that again, and not only not ignoring what it says, but not adding your own fanfics into it.

@mister garbage said:

" Keep in mind also that She-Hulk is a Hulk and can alter her strength level with her emotional state. Also i suppose that her being in outer space again and beating the snot out of a Thanos clone is a minimal task too, right? 

lol. are you actually implying She-Hulk is a match for Thanos. forget it! im not buying that for a second.

 
@mister garbage said:

Anyhow - if you look at her fight vs. Abomination - she really didn't have too much of a struggle, did she? She outclassed him the whole way through.
She struggles a little bit against a Wendigo - but even the Hulk does that - and so would Hercules - who seems to be your method of comparison to her power set.
She then takes on the U-Foes, Zzzax, and an army of Nick Fury LMD's in the same issue.
Next up - Iron Man - beat the crap out of him until he depowered her.
Fights with Creel - a tough job for anyone
Beats the snot out of some alien who threw a bear at her
Stomps a magical dude named Dark Art (Arthur Moore) breaking through his magical shield because her anger powered her up enough
She temp. teams up w/Hercules to beat some demigod and tosses him (Herc) to the ground w/ease
She seemed to struggle more with falling and the wind than she did with the SuperSkrull - but then again, who wouldn't struggle against him?
And finally... i'm looking at the page right now - she seems to have trounced Behemoth pretty easily. All he did was throw her once or twice.

 your analysis's of the fights are also wrong. in fact if a she still had that power boost she
would have 1-shotted near to every one of those opponents. sorry. your just perpetuating a lie now.
and your reading from scans as well. you know, read and get real context rather than looking at the 
respect thread were I post those She-Hulk scans that your putting up!!!!
yes, i said lies. im saying your making this crap up still and
im sticking to it.  
  

 he strength upgrade was temporary. she wore a suit because she couldnt control it. she lost the upgrade, now doesnt require the suit. she didnt gain control, otherwise that would have been shown (but you have scans of this i assume?). afterwords, she had to struggle with feats that were otherwise easy with the upgrade.  so what was shown after, is that she no longer had access to that strength upgrade, and that she longer required the suit. can you show otherwise?  "

can you show an example that doesnt take place during the time she had the suit of her displaying that 
strength class? its as clear as that. your saying i have no proof. the proof i have is after that incident she
has never once again shown that strength boost again. unless you can provide something we're she can.
clearly you cant because the scan you showed was of her one panel after the suit is ripped giving up the
last of that boost. it doesnt exist, simple as that. alls you can say is she " may have ". may have is alot different
than whats in print. she " may be Galactus ". hey, i dunno, can you show me a scan were it specifically says
she isnt Galactus? i rest my case.
#30 Edited by Selvokaz (200 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kyuubifreak:

its probably been mentioned, but Jen's strength doesn't vary like her famous cousin with her mood swings or should i say not as much, shes constantly at peak strength, the only draw back is she isn't his equal in the strength or durability department because of it. shes at class 100 which can mean anything up to and beyond 100 tons.
#31 Edited by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@mister garbage said:


 I'm sorry you can't support your ideas with FACTUAL evidence or without resorting to attempted insults and getting all worked up over the fact that you CANNOT PROVE what you're saying. Wanna know why you can't prove it? Because it hasn't been written.  You cannot find anywhere where it is clearly stated that she hasn't retained any of that power. You can't prove that she will never access that power again. All your other points are null and void until you can back them up with proof. FYI - proof is in the feats and in the comics, not random google you pull or from your own mind. You don't/didn't write She-Hulk and the people that never stated what you're trying to say.  You take my posting out of context - i showed you that picture to show you she worked out as JEN, because you said she worked out as She-Hulk, remember? Go ahead and scroll up. it's there. I showed you throwing a thunderous punch at Titania withOUT the suit on - all bulked up with no suit on. She gets a mental block again and that suppresses all her powers, true but it DOES NOT say she has not retained the power. To say that is without evidence and untrue unless you can show me where it says that that power was only temporary. Your WWH power chart means little to this discussion, as it doesn't say she has no access to her power like you're trying (very hard) to say.You need to slow down, take a big breath and READ my posts before you fly off the handle and get all fanatical for no good reason. Get off your high-horse and read a comic before you start spouting more nonsense. "

Just because someone doesn't have the scans to prove you wrong doesn't mean you're not wrong.
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#32 Posted by loveNwar (435 posts) - - Show Bio

They say Evil Samson is now quite stronger than She-Hulk... Does anybody know his current strength level?

#33 Posted by mister garbage (365 posts) - - Show Bio
@loveNwar: I don't think we have a good gauge of her current power level, especially compared to the Gamma-powered behemoths that are around currently.
@Vance Astro: True, but not even being able to point me in the right direction or discrediting what is clearly being shown in scans doesn't make him correct either... nor does it make me a 'liar', as has been stated.
#34 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio

@Love & War if Samson is in fact stronger than She-Hulk than he's class 100..there is no class beyond that. 
@Mister Garbage..while what you say is true.The scans YOU posted didn't prove you were anymore right than he is.
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#35 Posted by tristerfalm (1 posts) - - Show Bio

When She-hulk got powered up, she schooled Champion like a small child, out-muscled Herc and made city-block shockwaves when she punched Titania. If she still had that kind of power, her enemies between then and now would have been one-shot wonders. BAM! And they fly into space. Clearly this isn't the case. Also, she was HUGE. Like, normally She-hulk's bulk changes I know with different artists, but it's generally kept at a sleek bodybuilder level. At that time she had biceps like bowling balls. Clearly she still does not. It's VERY evident that the power-up was temp.
 
The real question, though, is why the hell would she go back to normal? I understand the depowerment thing after and then getting her powers back, but if she knows her strength is exponentially increased, maybe it would be a good idea to do SOME amount of strength training between missions? I mean obviously she doesn't have to pump up to the ludicrous levels the writers felt like putting her at back then, but still...maybe just to be a little more damn relevant. She gets chumped out too much these days, you'd think she'd get tired of it and hit the gym. Oh well...I guess Marvel just wants to sweep that whole mini-series under the rug and keep all the big strong men bigger and stronger than all the big strong women.

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