Shadowland Theory

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#1 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio

So if anyone is unfamiliar with this type of thread. This is where you (The CV users) and I post out theories about what is going to happen in this event.If you are also unfamiliar with what Shadowland is, it's a miniseries that would be mostly centered around Daredevil and the Hand but also Marvel's street level and the Avenger will be a big part of it.Here are the other theory threads just in case you missed them.... 
 
Skrull Theory (Secret Invasion) 
Dark Reign Theory 
Siege Theory 
 

 
So Now I will make a few predictions. 
 
Daredevil 
A.Daredevil at the end of this won't be the leader of the hand.This is moving into the heroic age.The time for the heroes becoming the villain or vice versa came and went. 
B.Daredevil will either kill or almost kill a popular street leveler.Maybe it will be Iron Fist, apparently his past friendships will not be in good standing in this comic. 
C.Daredevil now being the leader of the hand will go back to his Ninja roots which Bendis tried to bury and possibly we will see the rebirth of Daredevil using the Ninja techniques he was taught.For instance the one to resurrect a human being.Daredevil and the Hand will face alot of characters they can't really defeat so I think these abilities is how they will be explaining how he takes out certain characters. 
 
NOTE:The above teaser depicting Ghost Rider fighting Moon Knight from what I read isn't just a cover.This is really going to happen.I predict that since Moon Knight is only a street leveler that Marvel will be taking him back to the whole "Moon Powers" thing.Some demon or god will give him the abilities to compete with Ghost Rider.Thus making this less of a curbstomp.
#2 Posted by danhimself (22713 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly don't have any predictions...I didn't see this crossover coming at all....I kind of thought that the whole storyline was going to be resolved internally

#3 Posted by Golden Cod (443 posts) - - Show Bio

Apart from the Moon Knight / Ghost Rider picture there seems to be a lethal hero vs non-lethal hero theme going.   Perhaps the battle is about how war on crime is waged: from the shadows or from the spotlight.
 
Shadow
Punisher (sneaky soldier)
Elektra (bonafide ninja)
Moon Knight (Batman with multiple personality disorder) 

Spotlight
Spiderman (motormouth of the tabloids)
Luke Cage (maskless hero)
Iron Fist (flashy dragon power)
Ghost Rider (flaming skeleton of retribution)

#4 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:
" I honestly don't have any predictions...I didn't see this crossover coming at all....I kind of thought that the whole storyline was going to be resolved internally "
What would you like to see happen then?
#5 Posted by danhimself (22713 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @danhimself said:
" I honestly don't have any predictions...I didn't see this crossover coming at all....I kind of thought that the whole storyline was going to be resolved internally "
What would you like to see happen then? "
I'm not really sure...I've only been following Daredevil since issue 500 so it's kind of hard for me to make predictions on that book....I just didn't figure that the other heroes were going to be stepping in...they've left Daredevil alone for so long that I thought they didn't care anymore
#6 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:
 I thought they didn't care anymore "
It still doesn't seem they do.
#7 Posted by danhimself (22713 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @danhimself said:
 I thought they didn't care anymore "
It still doesn't seem they do. "
so you think they're going to be coming to stop him?
#8 Edited by CATMANEXE--defunct (17052 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider took me by surprise. odd that i didn't notice him in the wraparound cover.
also noticing Misty and Coleen, Wolverine in there. Andy Diggle gave a few hints as to where
things are going with DD in the interviews. I'd say your predictions seem on, at least with him
returning to alot of his roots. I wonder whats in store for some of the other major players,
like White Tiger, Black Tarantula and Kingpin by the end of this?
 
edit: i put a bunch of updates and interviews, ect in Nobody's Shadowland Spoiler thread last night.

#9 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @danhimself said:
 I thought they didn't care anymore "
It still doesn't seem they do. "
so you think they're going to be coming to stop him? "
Marvel?
#10 Posted by danhimself (22713 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @danhimself said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @danhimself said:
 I thought they didn't care anymore "
It still doesn't seem they do. "
so you think they're going to be coming to stop him? "
Marvel? "
the other heroes
#11 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE said:
" Ghost Rider took me by surprise. odd that i didn't notice him in the wraparound cover.
also noticing Misty and Coleen, Wolverine in there. Andy Diggle gave a few hints as to where
things are going with DD in the interviews. I'd say your predictions seem on, at least with him returning to alot of his roots. I wonder whats in store for some of the other major players, like White Tiger, Black Tarantula and Kingpin by the end of this? "
Is that Silver Sable in that picture too?
#12 Posted by CATMANEXE--defunct (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth: 
i'm honestly confused on whose in the white (looks like the Night Nurses) outfit. Colleen with wrong color job or Silver Sable? i dunno. still waiting for some more info/promo's on that.
#13 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @danhimself said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @danhimself said:
 I thought they didn't care anymore "
It still doesn't seem they do. "
so you think they're going to be coming to stop him? "
Marvel? "
the other heroes "
Yes. 
 
@CATMANEXE said:
" @geraldthesloth:  i'm honestly confused on whose in the white (looks like the Night Nurses) outfit. Colleen with wrong color job or Silver Sable? i dunno. still waiting for some more info/promo's on that. "
It's Dagger.
#14 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro: Dagger suddenly has white hair? 
@CATMANEXE: I see, I'd likeit to be Sable..haven't heard anything from her in some time.
#15 Posted by danhimself (22713 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah... that's not Dagger in the wrap a round

#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth said:
" @Vance Astro: Dagger suddenly has white hair? 
@CATMANEXE: I see, I'd likeit to be Sable..haven't heard anything from her in some time. "
No..I'm just saying sh#t.
#17 Posted by CATMANEXE--defunct (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth: 
last time i saw Sable was in Hulk. not a big role either.
#18 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth said:
@CATMANEXE: I see, I'd likeit to be Sable..haven't heard anything from her in some time. "
And to think she once held her own comic and had her own team.
#19 Posted by danhimself (22713 posts) - - Show Bio

is it me or does the chick with white hair look like she's wearing a skirt?

#20 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:
" is it me or does the chick with white hair look like she's wearing a skirt? "
It looks like she's wearing a dress actually.
#21 Posted by danhimself (22713 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @danhimself said:
" is it me or does the chick with white hair look like she's wearing a skirt? "
It looks like she's wearing a dress actually. "
yeah something like that...maybe it's just the way she's lying there but it definitely looks like a skirt or a dress there
#22 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio

Echo better appear in Shadowland.

#23 Posted by Bossjugg (146 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro: I would also like to see her as well. There is a teaser with Elektra on Daredevil's grave and it has a handprint on it.
#24 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bossjugg said:
" @Vance Astro: I would also like to see her as well. There is a teaser with Elektra on Daredevil's grave and it has a handprint on it. "
I thought that was Elektra's handprint.
#25 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio

UPDATES. 

 

COLLEEN WING & THE DAUGHTERS OF THE SHADOW 










 
 

BLOOD IN THE STREETS 


#26 Posted by doordoor123 (3721 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro:  Im really excited about Blood in the Streets. Its about some of the small characters in Shadowland.
#27 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@doordoor123 said:
" @Vance Astro:  Im really excited about Blood in the Streets. Its about some of the small characters in Shadowland. "
I can't wait to see what Misty Knight does.I haven't seen her since those issues of Iron Fist.I'm also anxious to see Silver Sable and Shroud.
#28 Posted by doordoor123 (3721 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro:  Same. LOL. but im not so sure about the daughters of the shadow
#29 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@doordoor123 said:
" @Vance Astro:  Same. LOL. but im not so sure about the daughters of the shadow "
I hope that's a good tie-in.I like Colleen but don't know the other characters.I'm still waiting to see Echo too.
#30 Posted by doordoor123 (3721 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro:  It looks like a great event as a whole. Its kind of like an event for all the characters not in Siege and a few characters from Siege. IM EXCITED!!! =)
#31 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio







#32 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro: Is that Batma...I mean Shroud in the bottom image?
#33 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth said:
" @Vance Astro: Is that Batma...I mean Shroud in the bottom image? "
Yea that's Shroud lol.
#34 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro: Talk about a comeback, I haven't seen him since West Coast Avengers.
#35 Posted by doordoor123 (3721 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro:  Oh yeah. I saw this. new Powerman. Its on Newsarama.
#36 Posted by Morpheus_ (29696 posts) - - Show Bio
Another teaser that K4tz showed me, with Daredevil in a new costume.
 

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#37 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio

That's awesome.

#38 Posted by Morpheus_ (29696 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" That's awesome. "
Agreed. I think it will be interesting to see him incorporating the additional weapons shown here in his fighting style, too.
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#39 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm so excite for this.

#40 Posted by Morpheus_ (29696 posts) - - Show Bio

 @Vance Astro said:

" I'm so excite for this. "

Same, do you know if there is a final check list, by any chance?
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#41 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
"  @Vance Astro said:
" I'm so excite for this. "

Same, do you know if there is a final check list, by any chance? "
I don't think so.I haven't come across one.
#42 Posted by Morpheus_ (29696 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"  @Vance Astro said:
" I'm so excite for this. "

Same, do you know if there is a final check list, by any chance? "
I don't think so.I haven't come across one. "
OK. If you get to see one, let me know.
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#43 Posted by Man Without Fear (219 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone know what's up with Colleen Wing & Misty Knight? Are they still friends?

#44 Posted by Jake Fury (19195 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro:
@Morpheus_: 
 
JULY

SHADOWLAND #1 (of 5)
DAREDEVIL #508

AUGUST

SHADOWLAND #2 (of 5)
DAREDEVIL #509
SHADOWLAND: BULLSEYE #1
SHADOWLAND: BLOOD ON THE STREETS #1 (of 4)
SHADOWLAND: POWER MAN #1 (of 4)
SHADOWLAND: THE DAUGHTERS OF THE SHADOW #1 (of 3)
SHADOWLAND: MOON KNIGHT #1 (of 3)

SEPTEMBER

SHADOWLAND #3 (of 5)
DAREDEVIL #510
SHADOWLAND: BLOOD ON THE STREETS #2 (of 4)
SHADOWLAND: POWER MAN #2 (of 4)
SHADOWLAND: THE DAUGHTERS OF THE SHADOW #2 (of 3)
THUNDERBOLTS #148
SHADOWLAND: MOON KNIGHT #2 (of 3)
SHADOWLAND: ELEKTRA #1

OCTOBER

SHADOWLAND #4 (of 5)
DAREDEVIL #511
SHADOWLAND: BLOOD ON THE STREETS #3 (of 4)
SHADOWLAND: POWER MAN #3 (of 4)
SHADOWLAND: THE DAUGHTERS OF THE SHADOW #3 (of 3)
THUNDERBOLTS #149
SHADOWLAND: GHOST RIDER #1
SHADOWLAND: SPIDER-MAN #1
SHADOWLAND: MOON KNIGHT #3 (of 3)

NOVEMBER

SHADOWLAND #5 (of 5)
DAREDEVIL #512
SHADOWLAND: BLOOD ON THE STREETS #4 (of 4)
SHADOWLAND: POWER MAN #4 (of 4)

DECEMBER

DAREDEVIL #513    
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#45 Posted by Man Without Fear (219 posts) - - Show Bio

I have a feeling that Power Man tie-in is going to suck.

#46 Posted by daredevil21134 (12630 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

#47 Posted by brendon277 (496 posts) - - Show Bio

You know what they said that how it's going to have a shocking ending and since Daredevil is the main focus what if since him and Elektra are lovers sometimes and enemy's most of the time and we all know it so what if one of them ends up killing each other or daredevil takes out almost all of them

#48 Posted by bingbangboom (735 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they are going to do something pretty big... talking like killing Captain America, outing Spider-Man, etc. The only thing I can think of that isn't one of those two is Daredevil killing someone. He has seen enough death to make it not a big deal. Even if they kill him off, we have seen so much killing of a hero in comics. Elektra has died so many times it won't be that big of a deal either. Has to be something big so here are my thoughts... 
 

  • Daredevil kills a villain aka Bullseye. It is similar to what they have done for Wolverine, get rid of his go to bad guy and explore the field. He isn't really up to much anyway since after Dark Avengers, even though he was a cool character, figured he peaked.
  • Daredevil kills a hero. Don't know whom he would kill but figures he would do so and not regret it anymore. Might be a lower level hero that just got in his way.
  • Daredevil lives, Matt Murdock dies. Matt has been through hell and I could imagine something inside of him just giving up. Loosing himself to the darkness and killing himself thus releasing something evil inside of him. This is where we get a more twisted Daredevil that is a villain.
  • Daredevil looses The Hand, goes back to old "Heroic" Daredevil.
  • Daredevil kills the entire Hand.
  • Daredevil disappears for a while. Goes into hiding.
  • Daredevil rips his eyes out, gone insane.
#49 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Theory: 
 
Since he's only got a one issue tie in and a possible appearance in the Moonknight ones, Ghost Rider will show up for like five minutes and then be like "I've got FAR more important stuff to do" as per usual.
#50 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:
" Theory:  Since he's only got a one issue tie in and a possible appearance in the Moonknight ones, Ghost Rider will show up for like five minutes and then be like "I've got FAR more important stuff to do" as per usual. "
*cough*World War Hulk *cough*

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