So to everyone who's been reading this series are you happy, pissed or indifferent on how the series came to a close?
Shadowland
Marvel crossover featuring mostly street level heroes.
Any thoughts on how Shadowland has ended?
" I found it really pointless, there wasn't really any to that lame excuse for a story. "I concur wholeheartedly.
I liked it. I'm interested in seeing where they take Matt now. I was happy to see him finally get a big arc that centered around him.
From the stand point of a big DD fan I felt it was a rather weak story that had a lot of potential. Not alot of intrigue or mystery, just some fights in tights. I wish Bendis or Brubaker was still on Daredevil.
It amazes me when people hate on something they haven't read.
Shadowland was terrible....here's the reasons.
1.Diggle finally killed off Bullseye (WHICH IS WHAT I WANTED) and then brought him back.
2.Echo didn't appear in it.
3.It gives the Illusion that the Hand is a credible threat and they really aren't.DD and Elektra has decimated that clan a thousand times over.
4.Not enough Elektra and her tie-in sucked.
5.Most of the tie-ins sucked.Why would they give Colleen Wing her own team? Do they think anyone gives a sh#t about Colleen Wing? I mean I like her but she's not popular.
6.Daredevil has no feats in the entire comic because he's technically not in it since the "Beast of the Hand" lived that storyline through him.
7.A chance to have someone new play the "Man Without Fear" was wasted on Black Panther who has already used DD's mantle before.
8.It's the first big event in DD in years and it did nothing to progress the character
" @Jake Fury said:I'm sure he will eventually just glad it wasn't done in Shadowland.He will be. "" @Vance Astro: Bullseye didn't get brought back. "
@Jake Fury said:" @Vance Astro: No he didn't bring back bullseye he is still dead
" @Vance Astro said:
" @Jake Fury said:I'm sure he will eventually just glad it wasn't done in Shadowland. "He will be. "" @Vance Astro: Bullseye didn't get brought back. "
I thought that Ghost Rider could kill Daredevil but, OH SURPRICE!!!
WHAT THE HELL DID I READ?
Oh well, Iron Fist was awesome in that issue, and I loved to see Spidey kicking Darevil's ass twice in the previous issues, but it was pretty mediocre, the rest of the issues could have been better...
" @Vance Astro: No he didn't bring back bullseye he is still dead and it kinda did progress DD's character because it showed how far Daredevil was willing to go because killing bullseye that was all him the beast of the hand didn't take over until Daredevil 509 if I'm not mistaken which happen after shadowland #1 but I agree with you on black panther taking over the series out of all the charcters who were great candidates to be the new "Daredevil" they picked a guy he only met twice I'd have rather seen Elektra as the New Daredevil that would have been interesting as hell as the woman without fear "The Daimyos didn't state the Beast of the Hands existence until 509.I think the Beast had ACTUALLY taken over long before issue 509.I hate how Marvel puts out those fake solicits though.They are going to give a character someone's role and it's always the character we expect.Remember when they gave all of those suspects for the New Black Panther and what do you know...it was Shuri..just like most people thought it would be.The only reason anyone would have thought it was Echo because she disappeared around that time and because her preview was the first to appear.
"Shadowland was terrible....here's the reasons. 1.Diggle finally killed off Bullseye (WHICH IS WHAT I WANTED) and then brought him back. 2.Echo didn't appear in it. 3.It gives the Illusion that the Hand is a credible threat and they really aren't.DD and Elektra has decimated that clan a thousand times over. 4.Not enough Elektra and her tie-in sucked. 5.Most of the tie-ins sucked.Why would they give Colleen Wing her own team? Do they think anyone gives a sh#t about Colleen Wing? I mean I like her but she's not popular. 6.Daredevil has no feats in the entire comic because he's technically not in it since the "Beast of the Hand" lived that storyline through him. 7.A chance to have someone new play the "Man Without Fear" was wasted on Black Panther who has already used DD's mantle before. 8.It's the first big event in DD in years and it did nothing to progress the character "
this,and you can also throw in the fact that danny knew how to stop him all along ,so basically everything there was just a pointless excercise,and i also found it amusing that the beast wrecked logan,spidey,luke,elektra,frank and ghost rider but was oneshotted by danny.
I was about as pumped up for a comic as I'd ever been when I found out Daredevil was going to take over the hand and become a villain. He had the perfect name, history and powerset to become one of the best villains in the Marvel Universe, especially with what he'd been through lately. The lead-in to Shadowland was pretty solid, and we were led to expect "The Birth of the Marvel Universe's Greatest Villain". We got a pointless mess of an "event" instead, and I'm still in the stage of denial.
Really, they should have got somebody competent like Kyle and Yost to plot the thing. Daredevil starts enforcing martial law of his own free will, and (inadvertently?) kills one of the heroes that got together to stop him. Misty Knight would be pretty heartbreaking, for example. Reviled by his former allies and unwilling to keep losing ninja to a vengeful stream of resident heroes, he re-evaluates the situation and executes a strategic retreat to the Hand's headquarters in Japan. There, he renounces the ineffectual superhero establishment and begins bringing the criminals of the world to order by any means necessary, while the East-savvy heroes like Elektra, Wolverine and Iron Fist prepare to bring him down. How hard was that?
" I have a new review up for my thoughts on shadowland's ending if anyone's interestested "I read it and agree with the rating it was given.
"this,and you can also throw in the fact that danny knew how to stop him all along ,so basically everything there was just a pointless excercise,and i also found it amusing that the beast wrecked logan,spidey,luke,elektra,frank and ghost rider but was oneshotted by danny. "
Iron Fist did not "one-shot" the Beast nor did he stop him. You might want to re-read the issue again.
bullseye was not ressurected in the end, but i do agree with you about the black panther dilema
NO thanks that would ruin Elektra as a Character, I much rather have her stay as it is....
(finally retrieved the full story) A agree the story kind of fizled after a great lead-up. The only books that really ment anything to the story were the Shadowland and DD books, most of the rest could have been left to the side (i.e. they are just as good as read alone titles as with the series.) I suppose waiting and seeing what they do with the ramifications of the story will tell how good it was. As for BP taking over as The Man Without Fear, I'm in a hold patern over that.
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