Unscripted Review: Secret Avengers #4

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#1 Posted by Weapon ONE (24 posts) - - Show Bio

I LOVE IT

#2 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (8838 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally G-man and Babs doing a review together  

#3 Posted by GT-Man (4054 posts) - - Show Bio

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME FOR CAP TO HANG WITH THE POWERHOUSES!
#4 Posted by Jake Fury (18059 posts) - - Show Bio

She-Hulk should replace Nova...
#5 Posted by Vance Astro (91052 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
" She-Hulk should replace Nova... "
Definitely.
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#6 Posted by Jake Fury (18059 posts) - - Show Bio

So my only complaint is this. After all those months of secret covers and such, Nova leaves after 4 issues?
#7 Posted by ImperiousRix (1069 posts) - - Show Bio

Hooray for two-person Unscripted! 
Having the entire run of Irredeemable Ant-Man, I absolutely love Eric O'Grady Ant-Man.  Having him on a major team (with Steve Rogers, no less) is pretty awesome.  Glad to see him actually being utilized.

#8 Posted by Retro_Metro (368 posts) - - Show Bio
@haydenclaireheroes said:
" Finally G-man and Babs doing a review together   "
 Will our heroes come out alive? Stay tuned for next exciting episode of The Avengers!  >:)
#9 Posted by grayrick949 (61 posts) - - Show Bio

i want a poster of that cover

#10 Posted by Bobby X (1141 posts) - - Show Bio

Well looks like a fun issue...doesn't seem like a very good book if you're a big Nova fan though lol which I am. I had enough of him being mind controlled in his own series. 
 
I actually dropped this book last month, but the conclusion of this mars chapter tempts me to try it again...I'll probably just wait for the trades though. 
 
Anyways, Steve with the Nova force for an issue is fun, but permanently? No way. That's straying waay too far off course from being a super-soldier and it would take away from his character imo. It's like giving Batman permanent powers...unh uh.
#11 Posted by daak1212 (7901 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap Britain should replace Nova
#12 Posted by The Impersonator (4899 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like the idea of Steve Rogers becoming Nova. He's already strong enough.
#13 Posted by Mumbles (846 posts) - - Show Bio

so now the old captain america is nova, who is soon to be the new man without fear from the teaser?  great job marvel

#14 Posted by G-Man (30213 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bobby X said:
"  It's like giving Batman permanent powers...unh uh. "
Uh oh... 

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#15 Posted by Bobby X (1141 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man:
I'm hoping that is just a cover ;)
and DEFINITELY not something permanent. 
That would be a worse move on DC's part than this was: 
 
   
#16 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4156 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
" So my only complaint is this. After all those months of secret covers and such, Nova leaves after 4 issues? "
Its not surprising, Brubaker stated from the beginning that Nova wouldn't be on the team at all times. Which is refreshing an indirect way of pointing to characters having their own stories to tell and things to do. I wasn't a big fan of Nova being a member of the SA anyway, I mean he's Nova Prime, he has the entire Nova Corp. to look after, rebuild, and train the new recruits.
 
I read the first two issues of Secret Avengers and I have to say it blows all the other Avengers titles out of the water.
#17 Posted by RomaTotti10 (80 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice to have a two-person review again. 
Really good issue. Best so far in this series. The only thing I thought was a little disappointing was that Nova wasn't stronger when he wore the crown. He should have put up a better fight and done some more evil stuff. 

#18 Posted by Jake Fury (18059 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nova`Prime` said:
" @Jake Fury said:
" So my only complaint is this. After all those months of secret covers and such, Nova leaves after 4 issues? "
Its not surprising, Brubaker stated from the beginning that Nova wouldn't be on the team at all times. Which is refreshing an indirect way of pointing to characters having their own stories to tell and things to do. I wasn't a big fan of Nova being a member of the SA anyway, I mean he's Nova Prime, he has the entire Nova Corp. to look after, rebuild, and train the new recruits.  I read the first two issues of Secret Avengers and I have to say it blows all the other Avengers titles out of the water. "

Very true. I was just looking forward to seeing him involved when he wasn't being mind controlled.
#19 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (7561 posts) - - Show Bio

Loved it, still one of my top titles overal. I agree on the lack of Moon Knight but that was a minor issue. This washed out the bad taste Uncanny #527 left in my mouth.

#20 Posted by NXH (1031 posts) - - Show Bio

WTF?? I'm still really confused with the whole Nick Fury thing. Is he or is he not the reall Nick Fury? 
If it is him, it will really contradict things.

#21 Posted by DMC (1550 posts) - - Show Bio

Totally agree about you guys on Eric O'Grady. He is the Irredeemable Ant-Man after all.

#22 Posted by N7_Normandy (2430 posts) - - Show Bio

great review guys
#23 Posted by elayem98 (458 posts) - - Show Bio
@haydenclaireheroes said:
" Finally G-man and Babs doing a review together   "
#24 Edited by ArtisticNeedham (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with Babs, It would have been cool if he couldn't handle it completely.  Like he could handle it enough to get the job done, but he was playing through the pain the whole time and he actually can't take it in the end.
Because then it makes Steve more human and not the untouchable Captain America who can't die and can do anything.  Gives him some limitations.  Like when people complain about Batman being unstoppable, I don't want that to happen to Steve Rogers either.
I also am annoyed by Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hawkeye, and others showing up in more than one Avengers comic.
also, glad to see you guys both reviewing together.  I like the solo reviews too.  But i like the conversations too.

#25 Posted by chalkshark (1180 posts) - - Show Bio

My very first thought was that the Nick Fury working for the Shadow Cabinet was a Life Model Decoy.  Nothing, so far, contradicts that.

#26 Posted by ckal (1097 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah, no Nova makes me a bit sad, but I wonder what the other "cosmic level hero" is going to be that takes his spot. Any guesses?

#27 Posted by ckal (1097 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree too that it would have been cooler to see Steve struggle with handling the Nova force instead of just scream for a panel. At least he got his ass kicked though, that kind of makes up for it.
 
O'Grady was bad ass in this issue, too.

#28 Posted by ComiCCloseup (287 posts) - - Show Bio

Love the thumbnail and the shirt G-Man
#29 Posted by Tanya Hyde (15 posts) - - Show Bio
The Serpent Crown...
#30 Posted by sora_thekey (8150 posts) - - Show Bio

To be Fury or not to be Fury?
Great review guys... Definitely picking this issue up!

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#31 Posted by sparty-dbq (766 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve should at least hang on to that shirt.
#32 Posted by sonic5328 (92 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury: I would agree with you because I love she-hulk and I think she needs to be in something besides a background character in Hulk. But she is getting a new ongoing series in November so it's unlikely.
#33 Posted by Mutant X (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't wait to get this issue tomorrow.

#34 Posted by Hunter114 (829 posts) - - Show Bio

"Now that we've brought Steve Rogers back, how should we make the transition back to him being Captain America?" 
 - "I've just had an idea... what if-" 
"Does this idea involve doing something that would annoy the fans?" 
 - "Nooooooooo It'll be fine, what we do is take Steve and give him super powers" 
"And how does that get him on the road to becoming Captain America again?" 
 - "Um... well..." 
"You're an idiot, put down that bottle of scotch and for the love of God put on some damn pants!"
#35 Posted by PirateNeal (35 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya heard it here first fokes! 
 
JesusVine.com COMING SOON!!!!

#36 Posted by jackassassin (15 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya I got a kick out of this issue, and the only problem I have if it is a problem is I (like Gman) dont really dig the space stuff.  Mars is a cool location and whatnot, but I like the earth lol.  And I dont care what anyone says... Steve would not only handle it but he would spank the Nova force in front of the Corps themselves.  The "im fine" was too freaking cool.
#37 Edited by Hellos (8898 posts) - - Show Bio

I really don't see much confusion as to it being Nick Fury or not.  
The guy he was working for was trying to prevent the destruction of the universe by the unknown pre celestial / Galactus entity that the Watchers have kept an eye on.  
 
I don't see it much against Fury's best interests to prevent the Universe's destruction, he even takes a bit of time to voice his concerns over Roger's team still being on the planet as they march their suicide bombing team. 
 
But I guess I could be wrong, but its not like Nick Fury has much to do with his free time anyways. :P 
 
Cap would have made for an awsome cosmic hero via Nova Force, next time Cap, next time.
#38 Posted by darkwolverineUSMC (315 posts) - - Show Bio

NO!!!!!! I like Richard Ryder as nova. He's one of my favorite cosmic heroes. Also, what about this crap he being the new daredevil? Steve Rogers is a champion, I can't see him being Nova!!!! AHH!!!!!!
#39 Posted by G-Man (30213 posts) - - Show Bio
@PirateNeal: AAAAAH! JesusVine already exists!
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#40 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, you really don't expect Babs to call someone a douchebag. It's surprisingly cute.

#41 Posted by B'Town (2336 posts) - - Show Bio
"I'm fine"   
  
He is perfect.  This is fun.
#42 Posted by FoxxFireArt (3545 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man: 
Dude, did you just say Earth 8675309? O_o  That's Effin' AWESOME!!! A universe ruled by Jenny Kale. Though, she had to change her universe's number after it was discovered. lol
 
Respect to anyone who actually gets that joke.
#43 Posted by Man of Lengend (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

NOOOOOOO keep nova ON THE TEAM

#44 Posted by oiHooliganismoi (518 posts) - - Show Bio

a shame he doesnt... i hate the tease in the cover but but he does kick nova's ass

#45 Posted by longas91 (66 posts) - - Show Bio

so you could say that Secret Avengers is like X-Force right. haha cuz "nobody" knows about them. :D

#46 Posted by MTHarman (725 posts) - - Show Bio


Even though I believe that Steve Rogers return was a mistake that Marvel made when they revived him and many writers would have a problem on knowing what to do with him. Im actually glad that he's in Brubakers hands as we see him keep the interest and respect for Captain America, Marvels most EPIC hero ever made. 
 
I disagree with Miss Babs, it wouldn't be cool if Steve Rogers couldn't handle wearing Nova's helmut. She doesn't realize that Captain America was designed and created as a rolemodel for readers and to see him unable to handle something like that would be way out of character. For a guy who is worthy to swing around Thors hammer, im actually glad to see Steve Rogers be introduced into something new and unique. Probably one of the most greatest combinations that I find creative and unique for Steve Rogers. 

The only thing that Steve Rogers shouldn't be able to handle is two things, personal baddies and Super Soldier malfunctions.

#47 Posted by leokearon (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

It could be a rogue LMD
#48 Posted by The Mast (770 posts) - - Show Bio

Nova is way too powerful for this team. I'm so tired of someone like Nova being punked by Steve Rogers.
 
Nova has been through two cosmic wars, ending the second one himself, and Steve Rogers once again is the "I'll save the day!" hero. He shouldn't be. I'm glad they got Nova out before he got pissed on any more.

#49 Edited by oiHooliganismoi (518 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mast: whats the big deal its not like steve beat the crap out of him  as just regular steve rogers he was augmented with the nova force............. which he amazingly controlled better than richard ever did,  with no prep..........  that why steve rogers is marvels go to guy!
#50 Posted by gordocomics (113 posts) - - Show Bio

this series has totally been living up to my expectations.

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