Secret Avengers roster question

#1 Posted by pepperr (96 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Now I've never read anything about Rider before Annihilation, but isn't he a tad strong to be a constant member? I'm under the impression that he rivals SS. He was pretty destructive in Annihilation and I loved it. I know Thor was also incredibly strong in the original avengers but he didn't have the Odin Force. Thanks

#2 Posted by InspiringMuffin (124 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

It's true that he's a pretty powerful character, but when you consider that a previous avengers team had Sentry, and the original teams had Hulk, he doesn't seem TOO overpowered. Of course, you have a point if we think about how the Secret avengers are supposed to be... well, secret. His powers aren't the most subtle.

#3 Posted by RavenDark (792 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

He cannot be a constant member IMO...only a temp. He guards the whole galaxy as a space cop not just the Earth sector. He has his own book etc....

#4 Posted by LT1085 (3658 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@RavenDark said:

" He cannot be a constant member IMO...only a temp. He guards the whole galaxy as a space cop not just the Earth sector. He has his own book etc.... "

see: Wolverine

#5 Edited by RavenDark (792 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@LT1085:

I really hope that that was more of an Exception that confirms the Rule! I REALLY HOPE! But darn...I know I'm wrong because of late many characters appear in multiple issues at the same time.....

#6 Posted by karrob (4207 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@InspiringMuffin said:

" It's true that he's a pretty powerful character, but when you consider that a previous avengers team had Sentry, and the original teams had Hulk, he doesn't seem TOO overpowered. Of course, you have a point if we think about how the Secret avengers are supposed to be... well, secret. His powers aren't the most subtle. "

Yeah but maybe they need the firepower

#7 Posted by bingbangboom (746 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Yeah but if you see what they are doing is involving him in space, aka Mars, but we will see. I mean I don't think you can be too powerful because they will just up the villains they throw at them. Wasn't he in the New Warriors?

#8 Posted by RavenDark (792 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@bingbangboom:
Yes..and he dated Namorita...

#9 Posted by bingbangboom (746 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@RavenDark said:

" @bingbangboom: Yes..and he dated Namorita... "

Namor must be pissed then, taking his woman. Maybe possible story of who wins her heart? Namor or Nova?

#10 Posted by RavenDark (792 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@bingbangboom:
Namorita is acctually a clone of Namora...Namora is a cousin to Namor....So Namorita is his clone-cousin...I do not know how atleantians define incest.....
But Namor always treated her like a sister or a child (in terms of guidance)
If you want a love triangle... Namorita dated The Human Torch a.k.a. Johny Storm (Which is IMO the stupidest idea a writer had because heat dehydrates and weakens her...endangering her life)
The Human Torch-Namorita- Nova

#11 Posted by jloneblackheart (5201 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Namorita was actually brought to the 616 universe by Rider in recent issues of Nova, she is from an alternate timeline.

I don't really get where these events take place, considering Rider is kind of busy right now with the whole 'universe is about to end, who cares about a serpent crown' situation going on in the cosmic books.

Also, Nova is no where near the Silver Surfer in power, as shown in his own book. He's pretty powerful though, I would say the most powerful on the team for sure.

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#12 Posted by bingbangboom (746 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@RavenDark: Ewww... Namor and Namorita did it?

#13 Posted by RavenDark (792 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@bingbangboom said:

" @RavenDark: Ewww... Namor and Namorita did it? "

No they did not! At least not to my knowledge......

#14 Edited by RavenDark (792 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@jloneblackheart:
Normally I would agree with you that Nova could never reach SS levels...but after the events of Annihilation...Nova absorbed the World Mind and become the sole user of the Nova Force increasing his power literary a 1000 fold....Of course the World Mind keeps his power set extremely limited as result...but it still leaves him access to that considerable boost, and to new powers not seen used by a regular Nova Corpsman....
But I confess I did not read his new itineraries in his book......

#15 Posted by PrinceIMC (5357 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@RavenDark said:

" @bingbangboom said:
" @RavenDark: Ewww... Namor and Namorita did it? "

No they did not! At least not to my knowledge...... "

Though Namor and his cousin Namora were meant to mate together and were attracted to each other but nothing ever really happened between them.

#16 Posted by danhimself (18752 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

I kind of agree but I kind of feel like the only characters that work for the theme of Secret Avengers are Captain America, Antman, and Black Widow....the rest of the team feels out of place to me

#17 Posted by jloneblackheart (5201 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@RavenDark: Yes and after Annihilation Nova faced Galactus and the Surfer showed that he was far beyond Nova's capabilities, before Nova even knew what was happening. Worldmind even said so. The Surfer got himself quite a power up in Annihilation as well. Nova #13 - #15.

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#18 Posted by pepperr (96 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@jloneblackheart: It wasn't a power up,right? I recall that he was given resolve and therefore was able to focus his mental energies on the present and became "stronger" but not increasing his power level. Just tapping into what he had already.

#19 Posted by jloneblackheart (5201 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@pepperr: It was that and restoring his old power levels that Galactus had decreased when the Surfer betrayed him. The Surfer didn't want him to remove his remorse.

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