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    The third part of the Messiah Trilogy cross-over stories that started in Messiah CompleX & continued in Messiah War. Second Coming heralds the long-awaited return of Hope Summers & Cable to the present day.

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    #1  Edited By Gylan Thomas

    X-men is one of the many things I once loved that is makin' me think I'm outgrowing comics :(

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    #2  Edited By Tavai

    Ack, poor Colossus. Dead again. What is he the new Jean Grey?.    

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    #3  Edited By kerukun878
    @Tavai: Colossus doesn't die.. His arm is injured.
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    #4  Edited By Tavai
    @kerukun878:  oops my bad! must've heard wrong then. good. haven't picked it up yet obviously.
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    #5  Edited By Amircat

    What do you expect Hope to do, look who her role model is? Cable. :p

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    #6  Edited By The Sadhu

    My heart sank when you said Colossus died! 
     
    My work mates are looking at me all weird now because I dropped to my knees and cried out "COLOSSUS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
     
    Thankfully it's not true thou! What a cruel trick from G-Man and Babs! Because of that I give this review a 2!

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    #7  Edited By cosmic master

    Ah can't say I've ever really been a big Xmen fan other than the 90s cartoon lol. Doubt I'm gonna bother picking this up 
    Also I've noticed you guys seem to be reviewing a lot of the different Xmen comics lately...

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    #8  Edited By kerukun878
    @Tavai: Actually, they DO say he dies, but another source says his arm is injured.
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    #9  Edited By doordoor123
    @The Sadhu said:
    " My heart sank when you said Colossus died!  My work mates are looking at me all weird now because I dropped to my knees and cried out "COLOSSUS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Thankfully it's not true thou! What a cruel trick from G-Man and Babs! Because of that I give this review a 2! "

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    #10  Edited By The Sadhu
    @doordoor123 said:
    " @The Sadhu said:
    " My heart sank when you said Colossus died!  My work mates are looking at me all weird now because I dropped to my knees and cried out "COLOSSUS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Thankfully it's not true thou! What a cruel trick from G-Man and Babs! Because of that I give this review a 2! "

    I think youre mistaken because he didnt die. He was just injured. Someone also said this earlier but you posted before reading it. :) glad to be of service.
    "

    I know he didn't die... thats why I added..."Thankfully it's not true! 
    But thanks for the help anyway!
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    #11  Edited By CaptainGenisVell

    G-Man I want your T-Shirt!

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    #12  Edited By LP
    @Gylan Thomas said:
    " X-men is one of the many things I once loved that is makin' me think I'm outgrowing comics :( "
    That is the saddest comment I've ever seen regarding comics.
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    #13  Edited By Gylan Thomas
    @LP: 
    Imagine how I feel?
    Seeing an evil tractor introduced in one of Morrison's Batman issues was just a turning point for me.
     
    I'm sticking around though.
    Maybe I should've said I'm outgrowing superheroes instead of comics.
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    #14  Edited By FoxxFireArt

    I noticed that in the variant cover for this issue that Rogue looks so young she looks more like a teenager.
     
    It doesn't bother me so much that Hope would go for a gun. That's what she saw Cable using so much. Now, Cable isn't there. She's probably using what she thinks Cable would use.
     
    I know Cypher doesn't have the best power, but I'd love to have it. It would be pretty damn cool to be able to know every language. The same for being able to read any language. That would be awesome to be able to read the ancient writing on old ruins.
    Having someone on your team that can break codes is a powerful tool. Most foreign languages are basically codes that you don't understand yet.

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    #15  Edited By KumoriKunoichi

    G-Man? You're a dad? 
    "Me and My Daughter"
     
    And Legion FTW! 
    But seriously, Colossus isn't caput. Bad bad bad.

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    #16  Edited By kerukun878
    @KumoriKunoichi: L'il G-Girl.
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    #17  Edited By Dipic
    @Gylan Thomas said:
    " X-men is one of the many things I once loved that is makin' me think I'm outgrowing comics :( "
    Just out of curiousity, why do you feel that way? Can you elaborate a bit (maybe give a couple examples and explain why), if you don't mind? Just genuinely curious.
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    #18  Edited By Comiclove5
    @Gylan Thomas said:
    " @LP:  Imagine how I feel? Seeing an evil tractor introduced in one of Morrison's Batman issues was just a turning point for me.  I'm sticking around though. Maybe I should've said I'm outgrowing superheroes instead of comics."

    They're is no such thing, you don't outgrow comics you just start reading different types of comics.
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    #19  Edited By Hawkling

    Loved the Boom Boom, Avalanche, Sunspot, husk scene. It's cool seeing the small squads all over the island protecting it, even the villains where toad's finger gets blown off was a good scene.

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    #20  Edited By BOSSTOAD

    Babs was acting funny in the end of this.

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    #21  Edited By sora_thekey
    @FoxxFireArt said:
    "I noticed that in the variant cover for this issue that Rogue looks so young she looks more like a teenager."

     
     
    After a while of watching the cover I was thinking; who does Rouge look like?!?!... and after a while I figured it our: Kate Hudson (>>) 
     
    Anyways... I haven't read this issue, but nevertheless filler or not Second Comming has been amazing as a whole so yeah! 
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    #22  Edited By Xion
    @cosmic master: is cause its the X-men event 2nd coming. And every issue of Xmen (X-force, X Legacy, etc) are all chapters to the story :)
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    #23  Edited By 00 Raiser

    Wow G Man you totally just messed me up for a hot second with that whole Colossus statement. LOL then kerukun878 totally saves my sanity.

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    #24  Edited By LP
    @Gylan Thomas: Yeah I know what you mean. It's just... it's sad to me because of the way these types of comics have become so tired and worn. I always roll my eyes when I see a new "earth-shattering event" about to take place in the X-Men and Spider-Man comics. Nowadays (no offense and I know it's not true for EVERY hero comic) I feel like the writers aren't even trying to come up with something truly exciting and original, or at least, have them stick instead of retconning it as soon as the next fanboy writer jumps on... that kinda stuff, you know what I mean?
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    #25  Edited By FoxxFireArt
    @sora_thekey:  
    I wasn't talking about the cover shown in this review. I'm talking about the variant with Legion on the cover. On that one Rogue looks like a teen girl.
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    #26  Edited By zedmanovic
    @Hawkling said:

    " Loved the Boom Boom, Avalanche, Sunspot, husk scene. It's cool seeing the small squads all over the island protecting it, even the villains where toad's finger gets blown off was a good scene. "

    Sunspot and Boom Boom side by side once more... 
    just wished Husk would stick to her adamantium-morph -- or carbonadium since it's more "flexible" -- instead of a more tangible layer... she tried to mimic Magma in this issue i guess ^_^
    oh! almost forgot an important scene -- Toad loses a finger! Colossus is old news! jk! =P
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    #27  Edited By Tavai
    @kerukun878:  Indeed you are correct again my friend, watched it again. Ugh, curse my gullibility.
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    #29  Edited By Namor1987

    Awesome issue loved the Avalanche scene

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    #30  Edited By Gylan Thomas
    @Comiclove5 said:
    " @Gylan Thomas said:
    " @LP:  Imagine how I feel? Seeing an evil tractor introduced in one of Morrison's Batman issues was just a turning point for me.  I'm sticking around though. Maybe I should've said I'm outgrowing superheroes instead of comics."
    They're is no such thing, you don't outgrow comics you just start reading different types of comics. "
    I'm sure some folks feel they've outgrown comics.
     
    @Dipic said:
    " @Gylan Thomas said:
    " X-men is one of the many things I once loved that is makin' me think I'm outgrowing comics :( "
    Just out of curiousity, why do you feel that way? Can you elaborate a bit (maybe give a couple examples and explain why), if you don't mind? Just genuinely curious. "
    I don't mind at all :D
    I'm a grumpy old man.
    See I've been reading comics for a long time and in the last few years or maybe even close to a decade now they've lost some thing.
    Creators don't commit to characters or series. They come along and decide they're going to shake everything up, kill someone then move on to something else. These days we're lucky if an artist go six months without a fill in.
     The stories lack depth and don't feel as though there's no real character developement anymore. Every thing feels as though it's geared towards the next TPB or "event" story line. Even the events lack any real kick now. It's all been done to death.

    I could go into more detail but I'm headed out into the sunshine. I've been spendin' way too much time online.
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    #31  Edited By Gylan Thomas
    @LP said:
    " @Gylan Thomas: Yeah I know what you mean. It's just... it's sad to me because of the way these types of comics have become so tired and worn. I always roll my eyes when I see a new "earth-shattering event" about to take place in the X-Men and Spider-Man comics. Nowadays (no offense and I know it's not true for EVERY hero comic) I feel like the writers aren't even trying to come up with something truly exciting and original, or at least, have them stick instead of retconning it as soon as the next fanboy writer jumps on... that kinda stuff, you know what I mean? "
    It get's frustrating for us fanboys huh? 
    For example....
    All the Brand New Day and One More Day stuff and now they're puttin' Pete and MJ together again? What's the big deal with MJ anyway? Can't remember the last time she was written in any kind of appealing way. 
    If I was Pete? I'd go for Norah :D
     
    And don't even get me started on the annual DC retcon's or the pointless death/ rebirth cycle.
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    #32  Edited By LP
    @Gylan Thomas: The last time Mary Jane was written well - was the first appearance. LOL
    But then of course, we found out that she was slutty party girl; but that worked for her, what was bad was when JMS comes along and decides to make her a secret agent with a "dark past". *sigh*
     
    @FoxxFireArt said:
    " @sora_thekey:   I wasn't talking about the cover shown in this review. I'm talking about the variant with Legion on the cover. On that one Rogue looks like a teen girl. "

     
    That's the worst cover from Adi I've seen I IMO, and I usually love his covers.

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    #33  Edited By sora_thekey
    @FoxxFireArt said:
    " @sora_thekey:   I wasn't talking about the cover shown in this review. I'm talking about the variant with Legion on the cover. On that one Rogue looks like a teen girl. "
    Oh my bad... you meant the Finch variant... still the other one bothered me because it was Kate Hudson's face on Rogue!
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    #34  Edited By goldenkey
    @Gylan Thomas said:
    " @Comiclove5 said:
    " @Gylan Thomas said:
    " @LP:  Imagine how I feel? Seeing an evil tractor introduced in one of Morrison's Batman issues was just a turning point for me.  I'm sticking around though. Maybe I should've said I'm outgrowing superheroes instead of comics."
    They're is no such thing, you don't outgrow comics you just start reading different types of comics. "
    I'm sure some folks feel they've outgrown comics.
     
    @Dipic said:
    " @Gylan Thomas said:
    " X-men is one of the many things I once loved that is makin' me think I'm outgrowing comics :( "
    Just out of curiousity, why do you feel that way? Can you elaborate a bit (maybe give a couple examples and explain why), if you don't mind? Just genuinely curious. "
    I don't mind at all :D I'm a grumpy old man. See I've been reading comics for a long time and in the last few years or maybe even close to a decade now they've lost some thing. Creators don't commit to characters or series. They come along and decide they're going to shake everything up, kill someone then move on to something else. These days we're lucky if an artist go six months without a fill in. The stories lack depth and don't feel as though there's no real character developement anymore. Every thing feels as though it's geared towards the next TPB or "event" story line. Even the events lack any real kick now. It's all been done to death. I could go into more detail but I'm headed out into the sunshine. I've been spendin' way too much time online. "
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    #35  Edited By goldenkey
    @Gylan Thomas said:
    " @Comiclove5 said:
    " @Gylan Thomas said:
    " @LP:  Imagine how I feel? Seeing an evil tractor introduced in one of Morrison's Batman issues was just a turning point for me.  I'm sticking around though. Maybe I should've said I'm outgrowing superheroes instead of comics."
    They're is no such thing, you don't outgrow comics you just start reading different types of comics. "
    I'm sure some folks feel they've outgrown comics.
     
    @Dipic said:
    " @Gylan Thomas said:
    " X-men is one of the many things I once loved that is makin' me think I'm outgrowing comics :( "
    Just out of curiousity, why do you feel that way? Can you elaborate a bit (maybe give a couple examples and explain why), if you don't mind? Just genuinely curious. "
    I don't mind at all :D I'm a grumpy old man. See I've been reading comics for a long time and in the last few years or maybe even close to a decade now they've lost some thing. Creators don't commit to characters or series. They come along and decide they're going to shake everything up, kill someone then move on to something else. These days we're lucky if an artist go six months without a fill in. The stories lack depth and don't feel as though there's no real character developement anymore. Every thing feels as though it's geared towards the next TPB or "event" story line. Even the events lack any real kick now. It's all been done to death. I could go into more detail but I'm headed out into the sunshine. I've been spendin' way too much time online. "

    I actually agree with you on lot of these points, but I think it's more related to certain titles.  I haven't read the X-Men in a looooong time because of the particular reasons you're talking about.  Wheddons run on Astonishing was good beacause he stayed on it for awhile.   Bendis is an exception because he stays with books for a long time and Geoff Johns does also.  I wish Millar would stay with some of his titles, I am so glad he's back in the Ultimate world, because once he lef the whole world got so shitty they had to turn the world upside down just to get people back, and they did, they had Magneto move it and kill have the world.  The market is to flooded with illustrater talent and I wish some artists would stay with some books longe like Bagley did with Bendis.  The X-men titles drove me crazy doing that after Lee left.  Good points tho. 
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    #36  Edited By Gylan Thomas
    @LP: 
    When was Maryu Jane a secret agent with a dark past dude?
    What did I miss?
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    #37  Edited By kaanonm

    What?! How could you rate this issue lower than last issue. We found out why they wanted to use Legion. The team in the future actually accomplishes something. The line at the end "I will attend to our enemies" was awesome. They finally showed the Nimrod's being a big deal (i don't remember anyone hurting colossus like that, certainly not for a long time) We even got to see characters that you don't see too much (Boom Boom, Sunspot, Toad, Avalance, Husk).  I rate this a 4.5, the last issue was drivel.
     
    BTW, sunspot is so much better than cannonball. "We will hold this tunnel!"

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    #38  Edited By NXH
    @sora_thekey said:
    "@FoxxFireArt said:
    "I noticed that in the variant cover for this issue that Rogue looks so young she looks more like a teenager."

     
     
    After a while of watching the cover I was thinking; who does Rouge look like?!?!... and after a while I figured it our: Kate Hudson (>>)  Anyways... I haven't read this issue, but nevertheless filler or not Second Comming has been amazing as a whole so yeah!  "

    Haha! oooh yeah...
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    #39  Edited By NXH

    So, not a good issue then, huh?

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    #40  Edited By Korg
    @NXH said:
    " So, not a good issue then, huh? "
    It was a good issue, especially if you are reading all of Second Coming, and not just New Mutants.
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    #41  Edited By ManuelPrez

    rogue looks like olivia wilde from house

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    #42  Edited By Peevo

    Love the issue, but Legion isn't wearing the bunny slippers on Golden Gate =(
     
    Even though it means he will die sooner, I REALLY want to see the limits of Gentle's strength next chapter! Husk needs to be a regular in one of the books and I really wish Chamber was inside the clown nose with everyone. I wouldn't need an explanation, honest! lol

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    #43  Edited By Shadowdoggy

    am I the only one who thinks that Rogue on the cover looks like Morgan Webb from G4?
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    #44  Edited By bacchusV2

    i hate these 'vanity-ish' covers....ugh!!! bad, bad, bad!

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    #45  Edited By Aspenite

    Oh, how I´m loving Hope! I actually found it really cool how she stood there with her weapon.

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    #46  Edited By uncanny89
    @bacchus:   i liked the x-force ones, and the uncanny 525 one but im not a fan of the most recent new mutant cover it seems too posed
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    #47  Edited By bacchusV2
    @uncanny89: the covers to x-force are always done with...substance...and not just flat out style. which is why i think these too posed covers are a little bit too forced.
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    I hope that no more mutants will bite the dust protecting Hope.

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    #49  Edited By X-23_2513

    i like how they showed x-force in it

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