Ultimate Scarlet Witch's Power

#1 Posted by Tessa (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm new here so I don't really know where to post this, but I have a question about ultimate scarlet witch's power. How is it possible to "do the math" in some cases. I mean how can her probability powers turn Longshot into a cat. The chance of someone turning into a cat with no means other than chance is 0.

#2 Posted by FrancoFerret (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Scarlet witch has never turned longshot into a cat in the ultimate universe but she did once in the regular time line,  the probability of one turning into a cat is 0/1, she can turn that number into 10/5, thus changing someone into a cat. get it? and the scarlet with has studied magic endlessly so when you combine magic + enhance probability one can really do whatever one wishes.
 
in the ultimate universe she has to do the math as in calculate the probability, she needs to know the numbers she is working with, let's say she wants to bring an airplane down, she would need to know all the weak points of the plane and then go into an elaborate calculation and she wha she is working with, in the regular time line this calcutation is done automatically by her power

#3 Posted by FrancoFerret (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Scarlet witch has never turned longshot into a cat in the ultimate universe but she did once in the regular time line,  the probability of one turning into a cat is 0/1, she can turn that number into 10/5, thus changing someone into a cat. get it? and the scarlet with has studied magic endlessly so when you combine magic + enhance probability one can really do whatever one wishes.
 
in the ultimate universe she has to do the math as in calculate the probability, she needs to know the numbers she is working with, let's say she wants to bring an airplane down, she would need to know all the weak points of the plane and then go into an elaborate calculation and she wha she is working with, in the regular time line this calcutation is done automatically by her power

#4 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio
@FrancoFerret: Yeah actually, she did turn him into a cat in the Ultimate universe. 
#5 Posted by jedd (71 posts) - - Show Bio

what story arc was that???

#6 Posted by Tessa (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say unless she was a genius, ultimate scarlet witch's power is more of a hassle. And I don't remember which storyline, but I think it was a little bit before Emma Frost's school meets the x-men.

#7 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio

The Ultimate Scarlet Witch was my favorite, he powers are more, how can you say, meta human. As this incarnation focused more on realistic term of using her powers (i.e. Using her powers, she needed to know the math.) while the original was more magic intoned.

#8 Posted by War Killer (19995 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix said:
"The Ultimate Scarlet Witch was my favorite, he powers are more, how can you say, meta human. As this incarnation focused more on realistic term of using her powers (i.e. Using her powers, she needed to know the math.) while the original was more magic intoned. "
I agree, she was one of my favorite Ultimates, and I hated that she died in Ultimates 3. And I did like how they did her powers, the whole "doing the math" idea was very smart and made her powers way more believable.
#9 Posted by joshmightbe (24692 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer:
good power tho a little over shadowed by the ick factor with quicksilver, come on theyre from eastern europe not alabama
#10 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

Well physicists say that technically anything is possible some things are just highly improbable.

#11 Edited by Kamionero111 (10 posts) - - Show Bio
@PrinceIMC said:

" Well physicists say that technically anything is possible some things are just highly improbable. "

Her powers work pretty much like Arcanna's from the latest Squadrom Supreme universe... the one from Ultimate Power... where they basically can pull stuff from parallel alternate realities. They can alter quantum randomness to pick and choose which reality becomes the future. Like Wanda said when fighting thor she would "find the universe where he is a defenseless baby seal" and make it the reality. Or where Arcanna chooses a reality where instead of a missile, they threw them flowers.
 
At least thats how they worked till Ultimatum/Ultimate origins where they pretty much said she had reality altering powers... Altho Ultimates 3 and Ultimate Origins contradict eachother since in U. Origins Savage Land had dinosaurs long before Magneto set up base there... while Ult 3 says Wanda pulled the dinosaurs into this reality when Magneto sent Wolverine to kill Quicksilver.
 
Boy... the ultimate universe became a bloody mess
#12 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kamionero111 said:
" @PrinceIMC said:

" Well physicists say that technically anything is possible some things are just highly improbable. "

Her powers work pretty much like Arcanna's from the latest Squadrom Supreme universe... the one from Ultimate Power... where they basically can pull stuff from parallel alternate realities. They can alter quantum randomness to pick and choose which reality becomes the future. Like Wanda said when fighting thor she would "find the universe where he is a defenseless baby seal" and make it the reality. Or where Arcanna chooses a reality where instead of a missile, they threw them flowers. At least thats how they worked till Ultimatum/Ultimate origins where they pretty much said she had reality altering powers... Altho Ultimates 3 and Ultimate Origins contradict eachother since in U. Origins Savage Land had dinosaurs long before Magneto set up base there... while Ult 3 says Wanda pulled the dinosaurs into this reality when Magneto sent Wolverine to kill Quicksilver.  Boy... the ultimate universe became a bloody mess "
All Arcanna ever did was make flowers ;P
But anyways in the Ultimate Power arc, Scarlet Witch stated that Arcanna's "magic" (basically both Arcanna and Scarlet Witch states their power as magic, for some reason, maybe to exaggerate their power a bit.) did not come from the traditional source rather than the underpinning of reality which was her ability to perceive and change the quantum reality, so this means that Scarlet Witch ability to manipulates probability/reality works slightly different. As she can make effect happens while working her math, Scarlet Witch could both manipulate and alter reality while Arcanna can just pull things from other realities. But your statement was more better than mines :)
#13 Posted by hdorman1 (4662 posts) - - Show Bio

has no one watched hitchhikers guide to the galaxy!?
everything is possible
just not very probable

#14 Posted by info nation (868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix: I'm not sure if She's a genius, but isn't she still at least FAIRLY intelligent?
#15 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@info nation said:
" @Charmix: I'm not sure if She's a genius, but isn't she still at least FAIRLY intelligent? "
I never said that did I O___O?
#16 Posted by info nation (868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix: Sorry, I didn't mean to accuse you of anything, I just remember The Scarlet Witch being smart, but she may have gotten even smarter.
#17 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@info nation said:
" @Charmix: Sorry, I didn't mean to accuse you of anything, I just remember The Scarlet Witch being smart, but she may have gotten even smarter. "
OOh don't apologize :) we make mistakes, its normal ;)
#18 Posted by info nation (868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix: True, but I remember the Scarlet Witch being a rather mediocre character once but now she's become a total powerhouse!
#19 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@info nation said:
" @Charmix: True, but I remember the Scarlet Witch being a rather mediocre character once but now she's become a total powerhouse! "
Because she was the passive member in her team, but her ability were so strong she was able to kill hundreds of soldiers with one attack though it left her unconscious, because of the many distinct set of probability out comes.
#20 Posted by Erik (31722 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tessa said:
" I'm new here so I don't really know where to post this, but I have a question about ultimate scarlet witch's power. How is it possible to "do the math" in some cases. I mean how can her probability powers turn Longshot into a cat. The chance of someone turning into a cat with no means other than chance is 0. "
If the chances are 0 with turning Longshot into a cat, then she obviously knew the math pretty easily. ;)
#21 Posted by info nation (868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix: But doesn't that mean the Scarlet Witch isn't totally responsible for ANY of the deaths she's caused?
#22 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@info nation said:
" @Charmix: But doesn't that mean the Scarlet Witch isn't totally responsible for ANY of the deaths she's caused? "
Where are we getting at?
#23 Posted by info nation (868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix: I heard that when The Scarlet Witch went mad, she killed a bunch of people, but since her power makes her so unstable, it's not really her fault!
#24 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@info nation said:
" @Charmix: I heard that when The Scarlet Witch went mad, she killed a bunch of people, but since her power makes her so unstable, it's not really her fault! "
Thats's 616 not 1610 ;P
She was mentally stable in the 616, either that she was just incest.
#25 Posted by info nation (868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix: What? but I thought she went insane in the 616 universe!
#26 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@info nation said:
" @Charmix: What? but I thought she went insane in the 616 universe! "
Correct this is Ultimate Scarlet Witch's Power not 616 :)
#27 Posted by info nation (868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix: But didn't The Scarlet Witch go insane in "Avengers: Disassembled"? that was a title that takes place in the 616 universe doesn't it?
#28 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@info nation said:
" @Charmix: But didn't The Scarlet Witch go insane in "Avengers: Disassembled"? that was a title that takes place in the 616 universe doesn't it? "
Yes, but what does it have to do with Ultimate, don't get sidetracked ;P
#29 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer Ultimate Scarlet Witches' powers 
than the current SW.
 
Her powers then seemed more 'real' and you could probably believe them more. But now, with the whole reality warping and basically doing anything, it's just made me dislike Scarlet Witch. She's gone over the top in my opinion.

#30 Posted by info nation (868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix: Sorry, I'm kind of freaked out by Ultimate Scarlet Witch, so I subconciously want to forget about her! I know she's never had the best taste in men but QUICKSILVER?! ARGH!!!!
#31 Posted by Cherry Bomb (3189 posts) - - Show Bio

anyone got any scans of Ultimate Scarlet Witch  doing the 'math' and using her powers?

#32 Posted by thewidowsbite (138 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cherry Bomb said:
"anyone got any scans of Ultimate Scarlet Witch  doing the 'math' and using her powers? "

I don't think there are any. I read on wikipedia (sadly) that the fact she had to 'do the math' was implied. I'm not sure if Wanda herself stated that she did.
#33 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio
@thewidowsbite said:
" @Cherry Bomb said:
"anyone got any scans of Ultimate Scarlet Witch  doing the 'math' and using her powers? "
I don't think there are any. I read on wikipedia (sadly) that the fact she had to 'do the math' was implied. I'm not sure if Wanda herself stated that she did. "
she did stated it herself, I'll try to get the scan

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