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    #51  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @courtney12490 said:
    " @lazystudent said:
    " @courtney12490:  hell i would happily check the women out over the other 100% of the time in real life, but thing is i enjoy games and comics and violence and gore are  widely used tools now days so its become less tabboo,  thou essentially both are playing to animalistic nature. "
    That's true. "
    Appealing to this part of the brain is how people are usualy brianwashed, since can by pass higher brain functions and  make people almost feral buy making thoose instricnts your primal ones with a enough conditioning of course. I would like to note iam not a nutcase this is just somethig i had to learn about as part of profiling course at uni lol
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    #52  Edited By courtney12490
    @lazystudent said:
    " @courtney12490 said:
    " @lazystudent said:
    " @courtney12490:  hell i would happily check the women out over the other 100% of the time in real life, but thing is i enjoy games and comics and violence and gore are  widely used tools now days so its become less tabboo,  thou essentially both are playing to animalistic nature. "
    That's true. "
    Appealing to this part of the brain is how people are usualy brianwashed, since can by pass higher brain functions and  make people almost feral buy making thoose instricnts your primal ones with a enough conditioning of course. I would like to note iam not a nutcase this is just somethig i had to learn about as part of profiling course at uni lol "
    That's really interesting. Don't worry, I know that you're not a nutcase, I've seen you talk about forensic sciences before. 
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    #53  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @courtney12490:  ok thats cool then, but yeah esentially thou as long as your not over exposed to the point that they both meaningless to you  or underexposed so they really cripple you  its all good.
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    #54  Edited By Leliel
    @courtney12490 said:
    " @lazystudent said:
    " @courtney12490 said:
    " @Caligula said:
    " @aztek the lost said:
    " @RiceFox said:
    " @aztek the lost said:
    " @DH69 said:
    " so they banned a pornsite? "
    it's not a porn site, it's art!
     
    I'd say porn could be art. Just like everything else... "
    actually you have it in reverse, art is porn...artworks have been pornographic for hundreds more years then porn has been deemed taboo "
    true, when did nudity become "evil" i'll never understand it. "
    I will never understand how violence and blood/gore in movies is more acceptable than seeing somebody's boob.  "
    Exactly violence is far  more damging to people after all, never heard anybody coming back from seeing a chick with post dramatic stress issues do you lol "
    Right? I will just never understand the mentality that seeing somebody savagely murdered and dismembered is more appropriate than seeing some skin. "
    Violence is not damaging if you not that not the way you should became if you have self-control and do not mimic those actions, sadly some people are unable to understand that. Nudity is fine a sexual act is FAR different and it depends how that sexual act is portrait, is it love or plain pleasure and then there is the viewer who should ALWAYS know that he/she is seen a fictional fragment of reality and those actions should not be replicated, that is violence and outright sex with anyone.
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    #55  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @Leliel: 
    Graphic violence is damaging to the brain thats a FACT theres several disorders you can get from simply viewing such instances.  Sure there are some people more susceptible to these  conditions but universaly its considered that viewing or taking part in as little as one brutal act of violence can hughely damage your mental state. Self control is indeed in important  but some people see things and replicate them. Sane people withself control  arent the problem. Also u would be suprised the corilation between the parts of the brain that process images of sexual and violent nature and our responces to them, thast why there are people who mix the two types of input together.  
     
    As for gaming and comic as i said iam a fan of both genres  which have aspects of both the themes in them, i dont feel that games and comics are as bad a visual imput  as say graphic violence in an action movie since they have more of an element of realism  interms of perception. Where as games and comics are more detachable from reality  with the characters having no real connection to the pyshical world where as an actor playing a violent role is a real person and therefore our brians at a subconscious level process the movie as a result differently.
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    #56  Edited By Leliel
    @lazystudent:  As incredible as it seems you are a person of obviously sane mind and not a lunatic and a person who worries about their daily intake of the world for the reason you stated above and from what I can read from your character I agree with what you are saying and in deed change my argument
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    #57  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @Leliel:  lol well sane as can bet at least everybody is slightly abnormal  but thanks for comments man
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    #58  Edited By Shadow_Thief

    Bah, these "cons" are all exactly that. Attend one, and you'll have to stay in the shower for a week to wash the stench of naked corporate greed off yourself (the fanboy funk is another matter; that will never come off). This event has gone the way of E3: a venue for executive bean-counters to shamelessly hawk their latest wares. It's all glitz and glamour and no actual substance. So, who's getting the SG's booth this year, the Twilight groupies?

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    #59  Edited By Leliel
    @lazystudent: Your welcome but there is clearly those who go about 'doing what they feel like doing with no remorse or believe they cause harm' and stereotypical as that line sounds its far too true
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    #60  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @Leliel:  nature of man , the better people are the ones that consider the affects of their actions
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    #61  Edited By NXH

    This makes me a sad panda =(

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    @aztek the lost said:

    " @Sparda said:

    " Can.....someone tell me what Suicidegirls are, exactly? I get the idea that they're pornography or something, and I read their wikipedia page but I still don't really get it. Is it porn of fictional characters or something? Why is this even at Comic-Con, if so?  I'm confused. "
    the SuicideGirls are one of the three essentials to a fulfilled life, the other two beings comics and (ACCESS DENIED)  they are not fictional characters, they're a group of pin-up models who excel at being the opposite of the stereotypes so they are like wild partiers, lots of tattoos and piercings, those kind of things...they're like feminists, only naked "
    A lot of their stuff is also simply photograph based, the photos very rarely show any... down there action but do show breasts. I am not sure about the DVD's I was never aware that they did anything pornograhpic, I would say the images perhaps are filmed? who knows. 
     
    The fact that SDCC have banned them for some BS they can not back up tells me what I have thought of the show for some time, that they are turning into a money making industry and nothing else. 
     
    I think CV should start boycotting the bloody show lol
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    #63  Edited By NightFang3

    This sucks, hopefully the'll at Comic-con next year.

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    #64  Edited By llagrok

    They interviewed Grant Morrison once.

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    #65  Edited By Illyana Rasputin

    What's a little harm in tattooed booby? Honestly.

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    #66  Edited By Icemizer

    Just invite one of the comic-con board guys to your next video shoot and you will have a prime spot at the con next year. Dont you know how the game is played yet suicide girls?
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    #67  Edited By PrinceSy

    That is one sad sad thing. Hot girl dressed up like comic book chars covered in tats and with a punk rock attitude baned. Awwww thats just sad.

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    #68  Edited By xerox_kitty
    @aztek the lost said:

    "they're a group of pin-up models who excel at being the opposite of the stereotypes so they are like wild partiers, lots of tattoos and piercings, those kind of things...they're like feminists, only naked "


    Or (more accurately) they're a group of attention-starved wannabe starlets who take their clothes off for a living.  The name 'Suicide Girls' is just a brand name, but it doesn't change the fact that they're just strippers. 
     
    Having tattoos, I sometimes get chatted up by morons who tell me I should be a Suicide Girl.  What?  I should be a talentless hack who just happens to have tattoos?  Hell no!   
     
    It amuses the hell out of me that those trollops are 'banned'.        
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    #69  Edited By deaddles

    just for the record, there are NO sex acts on the site or in any of their licensed merchandise. 
     
    there is no penetration. the closest thing to a sex act is the occasional set with two girls, where you'll get some implied action, but no actual contact that's more explicit than kissing or touching a boob. 
     
    it's just boobs, man. being naked isn't a "sex act". if you don't like them that's fine, and if you don't think they should be at con that's fine, but running around saying they force girls to do sex acts on camera is just plain ridiculous. not to mention, girls often have to work really hard to become a SG; it's completely voluntary. and if and when they no longer want to be involved in the site, then they leave. simple as that. how the hell do you force someone on the other side of the world to get naked and then send you pictures?
     
    since when does naked = porn? 

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    #70  Edited By GC8

    What do Suicide Girls have to do with comics in the first place?

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    #71  Edited By Korg

    Uh... they aren't banned. 
     
    Comic-Con International's Director of Marketing and Public Relations David Glanzer
     said:

     "No one is banned...My understanding is that SuicideGirls didn't have a booth and there is a 400+ waiting list...We got a report that they were handing out material that was not all ages appropriate. It's happened before where companies have not complied with our standards ... Does that mean that they're banned for life? No, we don't do that. Next year could be a different thing."    

    Seems like a lot of people are completely ignoring this bit.
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    Doesn't have any effect on me if they're not making an appearance.  I personally find a real relationship with a woman much more fulfilling than this sort of thing.

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    #73  Edited By No_Name_
    @Korg said:
    " Uh... they aren't banned. 
     
    Comic-Con International's Director of Marketing and Public Relations David Glanzer
     said:

     "No one is banned...My understanding is that SuicideGirls didn't have a booth and there is a 400+ waiting list...We got a report that they were handing out material that was not all ages appropriate. It's happened before where companies have not complied with our standards ... Does that mean that they're banned for life? No, we don't do that. Next year could be a different thing."    

    Seems like a lot of people are completely ignoring this bit. "
    When I spoke to Missy, she was told that she and the SuicideGirls had been banned. Did they say it? Is SDCC going back on their original statement? They obviously told Missy Suicide one thing, and the LAWeekly another, Maybe they didn't want to look bad. That's what the rest of the article is about.
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    wow that's really unfair because I love this kind of series. =(
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    @ChaosAgent said:
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    I'd like to point out that pornographic material can be considered dangerous in the sense that it has in some cases, awakened a more violent side in male activity, to the point of sexual abuse or plain flat out rape.

    umm... did you read that on a Christian website lol? Cause not to be rude but that is a bunch of crap, people are either naturally inclined towards violence or they are not, watching porn no matter what type does not make people go out and rape women... I can tell you this as I have studied psychology, worked with the police about young violent offenders and sexual assailants, there attacks come from a deep seated psychological desire to inflict harm, usually this extends from their childhood or their own abuse.... nothing to do with porn.
     
    @etragedy said:

    " What do Suicide Girls have to do with comics in the first place? "

    Read over Babs article she did say that they were part of Cassie Hack series.
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    #77  Edited By No_Name_
    @ChaosAgent: That's just silly. Boobs and tattoos don't make Men violent. I would imagine it would depend on the pornographic material. The SuicideGirls are soft core porn AT BEST. From my understanding, they are never actually partaking in sexual activity, they are simply posing nude. Maybe you're thinking of S&M?
     
    And if you're going on that route then rap music and heavy metal poison the minds of teenagers all over the country, right? 
     
    What about comic books? They're violent right? If I read a comic book am I going to put on a cape and jump off a building because Superman does it?
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    #78  Edited By Korg
    @Babs said:
    " When I spoke to Missy, she was told that she and the SuicideGirls had been banned. Did they say it? Is SDCC going back on their original statement? They obviously told Missy Suicide one thing, and the LAWeekly another, Maybe they didn't want to look bad. That's what the rest of the article is about. "
    I read the article in its entirety. Many people are ignoring that part completely, while only addressing earlier sections of the article.
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    I can not believe how ridiculous this all is.  Regardless if some one is taking full frontal shots or hiding, as some one said "down there", it is still considered porn.  It's comic-con.  Notice how there is nothing to do with porn in the title?  Get over it and stop being a bunch of pervs.

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    #80  Edited By No_Name_
    @xxSadisticSmilexx said:

    " I can not believe how ridiculous this all is.  Regardless if some one is taking full frontal shots or hiding, as some one said "down there", it is still considered porn.  It's comic-con.  Notice how there is nothing to do with porn in the title?  Get over it and stop being a bunch of pervs. "

    They have a comic book. It's published by Devils Due. They have the right to be there according to SDCC's guidelines, unless they really did commit a crime.
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    #81  Edited By EisforExtinction
    @Babs said:

    " @xxSadisticSmilexx said:

    " I can not believe how ridiculous this all is.  Regardless if some one is taking full frontal shots or hiding, as some one said "down there", it is still considered porn.  It's comic-con.  Notice how there is nothing to do with porn in the title?  Get over it and stop being a bunch of pervs. "

    They have a comic book. It's published by Devils Due. They have the right to be there according to SDCC's guidelines, unless they really did commit a crime. "
    They are under arrest for bein' sexy.
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    @Babs said:

    " @xxSadisticSmilexx said:

    " I can not believe how ridiculous this all is.  Regardless if some one is taking full frontal shots or hiding, as some one said "down there", it is still considered porn.  It's comic-con.  Notice how there is nothing to do with porn in the title?  Get over it and stop being a bunch of pervs. "

    They have a comic book. It's published by Devils Due. They have the right to be there according to SDCC's guidelines, unless they really did commit a crime. "
    So?  Just because a company that's pure basis is centered around pinups and porn, has a comic, at least to me, doesn't give them a "right" to be there.  Last time I checked, penthouse has some nifty articles about modern technology.  You don't see them having a booth at the world's fair.  Granted I do realize this is only my opinion... it's just, deep down I feel comics, like the one you are mentioning, are ruining the very fun foundations that the comic industry stands on.  Do we really need sex appeal in every aspect of art to enjoy it?
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    @xxSadisticSmilexx said:
    " I can not believe how ridiculous this all is.  Regardless if some one is taking full frontal shots or hiding, as some one said "down there", it is still considered porn.  It's comic-con.  Notice how there is nothing to do with porn in the title?  Get over it and stop being a bunch of pervs. "
    People are not being pervs, well not everyone, people are pointing out that a valid company who have been involved in comics are being pushed aside due to their slightly risqué nature. Quit ranting at people.
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    Fair enough.  I didn't exactly mean to rant.  Sorry if I came off that way.

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    #85  Edited By Korg
    @.Mistress Redhead. said:
    " a valid company who have been involved in comics are being pushed aside due to their slightly risqué nature"
    Nowhere in the article is it implied that this is the case. They are allegedly being "pushed aside" for selling adult content to minors without carding.
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    @Korg said:
    " @.Mistress Redhead. said:
    " a valid company who have been involved in comics are being pushed aside due to their slightly risqué nature"
    Nowhere in the article is it implied that this is the case. They are allegedly being "pushed aside" for selling adult content to minors without carding. "
    true, I am stating it based on the mixed up nature of what was said, to me the underlying issue is their supposed pornographic nature.  
     
    You are however correct in saying that it was not stated in the atricle :) 
     
    @xxSadisticSmilexx said:
    " Fair enough.  I didn't exactly mean to rant.  Sorry if I came off that way. "
    lol dont worry we all rant ;p
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    #87  Edited By Vortex13
    @xxSadisticSmilexx: There are some women who go to comic con wearing basically nothing but pasties and a g-string. For characters like Mystique and Poison Ivy. So scantily clad women are absolutely nothing new to these things. I've seen clips on TV with suicide girls and what they wear at main stream affairs. It's basically the same thing I described some people wearing at cons already. They even wear for than some. I remamber seeing a which blade cosplay photo that was pretty much just body paint and she was at a con. They wouldn't be going to promote their porn stuff, they would most likely be signing photo's and promoting their comic. I honestly don't see a problem with it.
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    @Vortex13: I see your point.  However as the article stated, they were selling adult DVDs.  So I think there is more to it then just promoting their comic, even if it is slightly on the agenda.
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    #89  Edited By Vortex13
    @xxSadisticSmilexx said:
    " @Vortex13: I see your point.  However as the article stated, they were selling adult DVDs.  So I think there is more to it then just promoting their comic, even if it is slightly on the agenda. "
    Yeah that is true and if they were not carding they should be fined. You have to realize though, as far as I know, that their videos aren't these hard core things. At least I don't think they are. Also there is tons of hard core pornography on the internet that is easily accessed for youngsters. So I doubt it would be something very new to those people and if they are carding I don't see a problem. Though I do get what you're saying and I do understand that there is a difference between the scantily clad cosplayers and porn stars, but just think about how there are booth babes. Funny story about booth babes that is completely irrelevant to this story. My dads company had been approached by another company that offers them for this software engineering and computer thingy that was basically several companies offering their services too bigger companies. I just find it highly amusing that there would be booth babes at something like that lol. My dads boss declined the offer however which is probably for the best lol.
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    @Vortex13: Well said.  And yep, you are most likely right about your Dad's boss avoiding that one. Heh.
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    #91  Edited By amberlove

    I'm submitting a segment to Comic Geek Speak about this. It's just ridiculous! I mean, at NYCC they have booth after booth of hentai!

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    #92  Edited By mothore
    @Nobody said:

    " If they actually sold one of the DVDs without checking ID then I see no problem banning them. "

    I agree.
     
    Though there's no evidence provided that a person associated with the Suicide Girls company did in fact sell adult material to a minor, this story seems like Missy is more concerned about making a few extra dollars or too expecting from her nudey-girl website, than being involved with what Comic-Con is supposed to be about.  Why can't they just have fun the same way as everyone else? 
     
    I don't mean to seem so prude. But I also think products for sale at Comic-Con, should be provided to suit the main demographics requirements anyway, which would mean no sexually explicit material included. That's what Adult-Con (etcetera) is for.
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    #93  Edited By DCGal

    I recently watched the Suicide Girl's dvd with some friends, as a girl, I found it slightly liberating, but also kind of raunchy. 
    True as a far as something that is considered "adult entertainment" is concerned it's pretty tame, they show their breasts and model nude but they really refrain from showing their 
    "downtown areas" if you know what I mean ;) 
     
    I don't think they are terribly inappropriate, but then again how many younger kids and children go to Comic Con? If there are a lot, I'm not surprised that having them there would be weird. If I were a parent there I'd steer my kids away from the suicide girls. The name "Suicide" paired with scantily clad girls who on their dvd have photoshoots entitled "How to Roll a Joint" and "How to Fake an Orgasm" and "How to do a Strip Tease" are not really what I would want little kids seeing. 
     
    That is just my two cents. They are really hot girls, don't get me wrong haha.
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    #94  Edited By ForbushBug
    @xxSadisticSmilexx said:

    " @Vortex13: I see your point.  However as the article stated, they were selling adult DVDs.  So I think there is more to it then just promoting their comic, even if it is slightly on the agenda. "

     "Their comic" was being background characters in one Hack/Slash issue two years ago, so I'm pretty sure your theory is correct.
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    #95  Edited By Vortex13
    @DCGal: Yeah that's what I thought, that they weren't hard core I mean. Am I correct in the assumption that they don't actually have sex in the videos? If that is true then it is really quite tame then most pornographic films.
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    #96  Edited By DCGal
    @Vortex13:
    You are correct. There is no sex of any kind in the videos. They just get naked and rub their boobs to an annoying degree. 
    There aren't even any men in their videos. It's just them doing "How-To" videos about regular everyday tasks that for some reason they end up getting naked and rubbing their bodies and sometimes eachother. It's all kind of silly, but I'm a girl saying this, I'm sure the dudes out there love their videos. 
     
    As far as them being at ComicCon, they really have no reason to be, but I've heard that half the booths out there aren't relavent either, and I can't blame them for wanting to pimp their business at a gigantic event that is going to sell merchandise and get their name out there.
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    #97  Edited By levack

     The fact SDCC ridiculously let's porn stars have booths at comic con shows they don't have a problem with this kind of thing, so I'm inclined to believe the reasons SDCC gives for banning them.

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    #98  Edited By ARMIV

    That sucks.

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    #99  Edited By tintallin

    What a crock. 

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    #100  Edited By WolfMonkey
    @Nobody:  that's only to say if they really did. i mean, maybe the guy's making it up about the minor. maybe the kid wasnt a minor and she really did check his ID but the guy didnt notice? and even if it did happen i dont think the entire organization should be banned because of what one person did. that would be like banning the Yankees (or your favorite team) from the World Series just because A-Rod said he hates Obama (didnt happen, just a hypthetical)

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