SDCC 2011: DC's New 52 Panel LiveBlog

Posted by inferiorego (23163 posts) - - Show Bio
New DCU: Justice League

JL RelaunchedThere's lots of DC news flying around this weekend, and almost all of it revolves around the new 52 books DC is releasing. It's SO big that it's been split into three panels, and today is the second of the three panels. I have no clue what to expect.

Panel begins at 11:15. So hold tight!

It's going to be a few more minutes guys. They're finishing up setting up the panel.

11:17- John Cunningham intros the show. Black Wayne Casino chips are mentioned again. Jokes are made. Refresher on what is happening with 52 in September. Bring out the panelists! Dan Didio and Jim Lee come out. Eddie Berghanza and Bob Harris come out. Dan says hi! This panel will be the origin of how the 52 started.

11:20- Dan says sales were dropping a tad, and that's when they started the "Draw the line" campaign. It came together last October. They wanted to re-energize the company. 23 top writers came into a room and alked about the tone, and voice of the DCU. Jim Lee says the meeting was intimidating because he isn't a writer. They talked about what they loved about DC and what changes they could make. Bob Harris says they talked a lot about character.

== TEASER ==

11:25- They were sick of "Event Fatigue." Lois and Clark came up at the meeting and their relationship. Jim states that it became a little complacent, the character of Superman. Bob says their was a struggle missing in Superman's life because he already had Lois. Eddie says that the first thing they took away was the underwear, as a joke. They wanted to give him a supporting cast that wasn't just super-heroes says Didio.

11:30- At the end of the year, Didio says sales were still dropping and they decided to do new number ones all across the board. He originally says they wanted to keep Action and Detective at original numbering. It wasn't going to work, so they went "all in." It was 48 new books at first. Jim kept pushing for 52 because it's a "magical number for the DCU." They met in the "war room" and put a grid on a wall with characters and discussed each one. They wanted to put new/old genres back in the books. They say Geoff Johns was also heavily involved.

11:35- Finished pages of JLA go up on the screen. Gotham City City Police are chasing someone. Jim describes the pages. This takes place 5 years ago. The art is amazing. "The GCPD doesn't care where people live and they shoot buildings." says Jim. We all laugh, He continues describing the panels making jokes about how physics in comics are different. Batman destroys a chimney. Jim says "We have a big budget we can put as many chimneys in here as we want." Jim Lee loves chimneys. The art on this book is gorgeous. The colors on this book are also gorgeous.

11:45- Don't know what happened, but lost 2 paragraphs. Talked about getting rid of all the yellow belts on the costumes of Justice League, and making small changes here and there. Wanted the costumes to look functional, contemporary, and realistic.

11:50- Action is the first time the public sees Superman. They didn’t want to start with year ones or origins or first meetings because we’ve all seen that before. Eddie decided to build a five year time line to keep it fresh.

11:55- Question time and everyone almost tramples each other. Q: What's going on with Stephanie Brown? A: She'll be a part of the Batman family. Q: Will there be any character who knows what happened pre-launch? A: Doesn't seem like it. Jim Lee essentially says it's counter-productive to what they are doing. Q: Did they ever thing of doing a season or volume numbering system? A: It came up, but it's not something they could do. Q:Barbara Gordon and walking. A: Have faith in Gail Simone. Q: Will characters stay dead? A: Didio says it's about moving forward. It's about building not taking a part.

12:00- Q: Anything they were changing that made them sad? A: Yes. No examples. Q: Timeline questions. A: JLA takes place 5 years in the past, and Action Comics takes place 6 months BEFORE that. The second arc of Action will be taking place at the same time as Superman.

12:05- Dan mentions there will still be a Multiverse. (awesome) Q: How long before they cut off Aquaman's hand? A: This Aquaman will beat the crap out of us if we do that again. Q: IS GL Rebirth canon and did GL still hit Batman? A: Yes, and you'll see more of that soon. Q: Where's Donna Troy? A: Didio says he is not allowed to talk about her yet.

12:10- Q: Are powers being changed? A: Certain things have been altered a tad. They want to show new ways for these characters to use their powers, like how Flash's costumes comes out of his ring now. Q: Are people like Alan Scott and Jay Garrick going to be active during the new 52? A: Didio says they're getting a rest. Fans, and myself, boo. Could be more than a year before we see them again. Q: Kid asks why is Dick Grayson Batman. A: Didio says he's not and "you're welcome." We all chuckle. Looks like someone was just trying to get a poker chip.

Bye bye! All done!

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#1 Posted by MFK300 (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally the panel I've been waiting for!!!

#2 Posted by Phantim555 (229 posts) - - Show Bio

CAN NOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3 Posted by GoodnightMoon_Knight (19 posts) - - Show Bio

Really wish they streamed these live somewhere...

#4 Edited by turoksonofstone (13199 posts) - - Show Bio

11:25- They were sick of "Event Fatigue." Lois and Clark came up at the meeting and their relationship. Jim states that it became a little complacent, the character of Superman. Bob says their was a struggle missing in Superman's life because he already had Lois. Eddie says that the first thing they took away was the underwear, as a joke. They wanted to give him a supporting cast that wasn't just super-heroes says Didio. 
Lies. 
Lies. 
Lies.

#5 Posted by eternale0 (28 posts) - - Show Bio

thank god ex-batgirl brown is still going to be around... I don't know what it is with her stories but I really enjoyed her run on batgirl was going to be disappointed if she was just gone... This new 52 is going to be awesome

#6 Posted by Outside_85 (8707 posts) - - Show Bio

Sry, but throwing out the past stories so they can tell new ones just sounds like a really lazy way of going about this, since nothing is preventing them from writing good stories if they bothered putting their minds to it. (Btw i agree that walking from one event and into another was really sickening) 
 
Btw...who can give Dan orders in DC in regards to Donna Troy? 
  
On the newsarama site they live updated this panel and someone asked if they had any alternatives than the New 52 or if it was "The New 52, take it or leave it" where Lee replied "That was our tagline" (Somewhere i am beginning to see DC as a car salesman who's just busted your car with a mallet to sell you a new one.)

#7 Posted by wallywest55 (231 posts) - - Show Bio

those were some pretty dumb questions. So nothing about Captain marvel still? tight 

#8 Posted by TheSavageAssasin (2761 posts) - - Show Bio

Still on the fence about this.Will be picking up a few of the new titles though.

#9 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

Sales were dropping and thus the relaunch. Fair enough, but if the original intent was to keep Action and Detective's original numbering, why would it 'not work'? Seriously...Im curious...

#10 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

...You'd think someone would ask about Power Girl...

#11 Posted by goldenkey (2927 posts) - - Show Bio

Comfortable suits.  they padded everything, and what's not comfortable about tights?  I don't see how the Action and Detective could not keep the numbering system the same way either.  It's just lame.  I'm sure each one will have the #1,000 on them when they come out, but still it's cheap.  I just hope the stories are good.  I'm for the new suits, that does not bother me.  The extra pads on them are stupid tho.  The collars are.........what ever............I just don't know.  The more excited I was for this the less and less I am excited for this.  We'll see.
#12 Posted by B_Heart (152 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool stuff. The less I know about the new 52 stuff the better. I like going in fresh.

#13 Posted by Golden Cod (422 posts) - - Show Bio
@turoksonofstone said:
11:25- They were sick of "Event Fatigue." Lois and Clark came up at the meeting and their relationship. Jim states that it became a little complacent, the character of Superman. Bob says their was a struggle missing in Superman's life because he already had Lois. Eddie says that the first thing they took away was the underwear, as a joke. They wanted to give him a supporting cast that wasn't just super-heroes says Didio. 
Lies. 
Lies. 
Lies.
 
Gotta love how this decision parallels what Marvel did to a certain other character in red and blue tights.
#14 Posted by Johnslamby (149 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman sounds interesting
#15 Posted by pikahyper (11917 posts) - - Show Bio
@turoksonofstone said:
11:25- They were sick of "Event Fatigue." Lois and Clark came up at the meeting and their relationship. Jim states that it became a little complacent, the character of Superman. Bob says their was a struggle missing in Superman's life because he already had Lois. Eddie says that the first thing they took away was the underwear, as a joke. They wanted to give him a supporting cast that wasn't just super-heroes says Didio. 
Lies. 
Lies. 
Lies.
Sooooo they are sick of events so they go and do another one that is even bigger then all the past ones, ya that makes loads of sense and I'm sure they will have another event before the end of the year.
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#16 Edited by turoksonofstone (13199 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambit1024 said:

...You'd think someone would ask about Power Girl...

They De-Kryptoned her and she's a supporting character elsewhere.
#17 Posted by Deep_Six (142 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, why can't Nightwing be on a team with PG lol. I ship the hell out of it. A revamped Justice Society: Nightwing, Captain Marvel,  Zauriel, Atom, John Stewart, Mr.Miracle and Donna Troy. Mmmm
#18 Posted by FoxxFireArt (3554 posts) - - Show Bio

The fact that these authors viewed Superman's relationship with Lois as not having a struggle in Superman's life speaks VOLUMES to me. It explains so much. Rather than try and give Superman a struggle in the form of action. They are taking away the thing that linked him to humanity away in a forced attempt to turn Supes' into another emo-hero.  Didn't they do this enough in Smallville?
 @pikahyper said:

@turoksonofstone said:
11:25- They were sick of "Event Fatigue." Lois and Clark came up at the meeting and their relationship. Jim states that it became a little complacent, the character of Superman. Bob says their was a struggle missing in Superman's life because he already had Lois. Eddie says that the first thing they took away was the underwear, as a joke. They wanted to give him a supporting cast that wasn't just super-heroes says Didio. 
Lies. 
Lies. 
Lies.
Sooooo they are sick of events so they go and do another one that is even bigger then all the past ones, ya that makes loads of sense and I'm sure they will have another event before the end of the year.

That seems to be comic writer/editor philosophy. If people are sick of an event. Make another event but bigger.
 
I had a discussion with some comic fans while I was at my local Borders' closing sale. We talked about the DU New 52. There was unanimous hatred for the removal of Superman's marriage. A LOT of OMD/BND comparisons were made.
#19 Posted by Eyz (3095 posts) - - Show Bio
@FoxxFireArt said:
  I had a discussion with some comic fans while I was at my local Borders' closing sale. We talked about the DU New 52. There was unanimous hatred for the removal of Superman's marriage. A LOT of OMD/BND comparisons were made.
Yeah, well obviously....
Man, why can't superheroes simply divorce if need be, you know like "grown ups" do instead of these shenanigans "the wedding never happened"-kind of thing...
 
Oh wait... Ray Palmer divorced and we all know how that ended up... °___°
#20 Posted by tsorfamme (19 posts) - - Show Bio

Reboot, Test, if Fail go back and undo.

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