Linkara Reviews "Rise of Arsenal"

Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio

 
 

Way to be a grade "A" d-bag, Roy boy... 
Easily one of the worst things I've read since my return to comics. Like really? How does DC allow one of it's characters to be butchered this bad? Now whenever I see Krul's name I can't help but vomit in my mouth a bit and be overcome with homicidal berzerker rage. Anyway's great review for a terrible, horrid, despicable comic
#1 Posted by Mercy_ (92605 posts) - - Show Bio

I refuse to read it. I understand that character development doesn't always take a step forward, but this is so far from where the character should be heading. The death of Lian was PIS at it's absolute worst. The returning to drugs was totally backwards. After everything he fought for, after the years of being a positive role model DC threw that away. He's gone to a terrible place and it's horrible to read. So I don't.

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#2 Posted by Aiden Cross (15562 posts) - - Show Bio

i don't like where the character went, BUT having said that.. the story was well witten, and it totally made sense. And i thnk the writer did a great job on portraying the characters.
#3 Posted by Blurred View (363 posts) - - Show Bio

The saddest thing for me about all this was that I actually really LIKED the idea of Roy losing his arm. I always knew that Roy had peaked with being Red Arrow on the Justice League and would/should drop back to being Arsenal eventually. The idea of him doing so by becoming a one-armed badass was... rather awesome. IF any character in the DCU could pull that off, it was probably Roy. So I remember seeing that page where he staggers out missing an arm and thinking "...Wow. Something interesting may actually come out of this incomprehensible disaster of a story." 
 
...Then the rest of the story played out. Then Rise of Arsenal played out. This potentially cool idea got buried in stupid stuff like Lian's death, a ridiculously excessive body count in Star City, a fall back into drag addiction, a dead cat and a damn cyborg arm. That's what made it so maddening for me. Rather than be 100% crap, there was this glimmer of possibly good character development in there being stomped all over.

#4 Posted by Mercy_ (92605 posts) - - Show Bio

@Blurred View: Agree 100%. If it had all been sh!t and a terrible idea from the very beginning, I wouldn't care so much, I'd have braced myself. But there was that small chance that something really cool and awesomely badass would come from this and it didn't at all.

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#5 Posted by Duo_forbidden (1161 posts) - - Show Bio

Both Cry For Justice, The Fall of Green Arrow, and The Rise of Arsenal were the most ridiculous stories to come out last year/year before. The first half of Cry for Justice was good (despite some weird conversations (Hal Jordan's threeway)), and Roy losing an arm was cool, but afterward, it just went downhill. Lian dying, Roy going back to drugs, joining Deathstroke's Titans....it just ridiculous. Roy deserves better.

#6 Posted by Blurred View (363 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress: I was holding onto hope for awhile that someone would come along and try to salvage the situation. Sober Roy up, junk the cheap robo-arm and most importantly, resurrect Lian. Then do what DC should have done from the start. Instead, DCnU is going to do whatever it's going to do. Roy will have two arms again, which is kind of bitterly funny considering all of the creative contortions it sounds like DC is going to do to get around Barbara Gordon's disability. I'm not really comforted, though. Like I said, I'm fine with one-armed Roy. Giving him back his own arm doesn't fix things. Giving him back his daughter fixes things.
#7 Posted by Aiden Cross (15562 posts) - - Show Bio
@Blurred View: the robo arm was a bad idea indeed. But i think Roy having a relapse is not such a bad idea, it happens in real life as well and with his daughter dead i can see that happening. The whole going evil thing is just dumb in my opinion.
#8 Edited by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress:  
I read the first 3 issues and I just couldn't do it anymore...It hurt too much.  
 
@Duo_forbidden said:
Both Cry For Justice, The Fall of Green Arrow, and The Rise of Arsenal were the most ridiculous stories to come out last year/year before. The first half of Cry for Justice was good (despite some weird conversations (Hal Jordan's threeway)), and Roy losing an arm was cool, but afterward, it just went downhill. Lian dying, Roy going back to drugs, joining Deathstroke's Titans....it just ridiculous. Roy deserves better.
Bingo. No words for how terribly retarded those stories all are. Plot-holes and inconsistencies left and right. 
#9 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio

I read this instore. It was hilarious, or at least it would be if it wasn't in continuity. 

#10 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
I read this instore. It was hilarious, or at least it would be if it wasn't in continuity. 
I actually bought the first two issues :(
#11 Posted by Benuben (230 posts) - - Show Bio
#12 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by Inverno (13061 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually bought the third issue of this crap out of curiosity because one of my friends said some really terrible things about it such as Roy having hate-sex with Cheshire, being unable to get up, protecting a dead cat thinking its his daughter and Batman casually kicking in the face while saying "I am you friend"; when he told me about that, I thought he was making that up and decide to check it out. I was absolutely speechless when I actually read that I let that comic over my table for a few minutes trying to digest what the f*** did I just read.

#14 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@CaioTrubat: "Hate-sex" is the best term I've ever seen ever on CV.

#15 Posted by Inverno (13061 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@CaioTrubat: "Hate-sex" is the best term I've ever seen ever on CV.

LMAO.

#16 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@CaioTrubat: "Hate-sex" is the best term I've ever seen ever on CV.

I think it's the only kind featured in 90% of modern superhero comics...

#17 Posted by Inverno (13061 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonesDeini said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@CaioTrubat: "Hate-sex" is the best term I've ever seen ever on CV.

I think it's the only kind featured in 90% of modern superhero comics...

O___o

Why is that lol?

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