Is Rorschach Journal breaking down the Fourth Wall concept ?

#1 Posted by Mach (171 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by JediXMan (29250 posts) - - Show Bio

No. He's not talking to the viewer. It's his own personal thoughts. Really, if anything, he's speaking to the news paper that he gave his journal to (sorry, can't remember the name).
 
What Deadpool does is breaking the Fourth Wall.

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#3 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio

yes, Best Definition of breaking the 4th wall...........................Zack Morris.........and Deadpool
#4 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" No. He's not talking to the viewer. It's his own personal thoughts. Really, if anything, he's speaking to the news paper that he gave his journal to (sorry, can't remember the name).  What Deadpool does is breaking the Fourth Wall. "
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#5 Edited by cbishop (6940 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:

"No. He's not talking to the viewer. It's his own personal thoughts. Really, if anything, he's speaking to the news paper that he gave his journal to (sorry, can't remember the name).  What Deadpool does is breaking the Fourth Wall. "


Repeat: this. ;) 
 
R's journal is an example of first person narration.
#6 Posted by Mach (171 posts) - - Show Bio
@cbishop said:
"@JediXMan said:

"No. He's not talking to the viewer. It's his own personal thoughts. Really, if anything, he's speaking to the news paper that he gave his journal to (sorry, can't remember the name).  What Deadpool does is breaking the Fourth Wall. "

Repeat: this. ;)  R's journal is an example of first person narration. "

ok but would that not  in way be  same tho ?
#7 Posted by digimod (239 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mach said:
" @cbishop said:
"@JediXMan said:

"No. He's not talking to the viewer. It's his own personal thoughts. Really, if anything, he's speaking to the news paper that he gave his journal to (sorry, can't remember the name).  What Deadpool does is breaking the Fourth Wall. "

Repeat: this. ;)  R's journal is an example of first person narration. "
ok but would that not  in way be  same tho ? "
No, because it is not directed to us and he has no concept of any realty beyond his own.  It is a first person narrative in context to his perception of himself in his own reality.
#8 Posted by JediXMan (29250 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mach: 
 
No, it's not.
 
1. This is the origin of the fourth wall: on a film set, there are "three walls" where the actors are. There is a fourth, hypothetical wall where the cameras, director, and sometimes audience is.  If a character looks in that direction, and speaks directly to that area, then that is "breaking the fourth wall."
2. Are you breaking the wall if you were to write in a journal? Who are you speaking to?
3. Is a thought bubble breaking the fourth wall?
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#9 Posted by Mach (171 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" @Mach: 
 
No, it's not.
 
1. This is the origin of the fourth wall: on a film set, there are "three walls" where the actors are. There is a fourth, hypothetical wall where the cameras, director, and sometimes audience is.  If a character looks in that direction, and speaks directly to that area, then that is "breaking the fourth wall." 2. Are you breaking the wall if you were to write in a journal? Who are you speaking to? 3. Is a thought bubble breaking the fourth wall? "

good I like this  convertions lets keep it going please 
#10 Posted by JediXMan (29250 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mach: 
 
 
.... eh? What are you talking about?
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#11 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio

No. He's just writing his thoughts down in a journal. In the end, he mails it to the New Frontiersman. That is to whom he was talking to.

#12 Posted by JMWRainwater (34 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" @Mach: 
 
No, it's not.
 
1. This is the origin of the fourth wall: on a film set, there are "three walls" where the actors are. There is a fourth, hypothetical wall where the cameras, director, and sometimes audience is.  If a character looks in that direction, and speaks directly to that area, then that is "breaking the fourth wall." 2. Are you breaking the wall if you were to write in a journal? Who are you speaking to? 3. Is a thought bubble breaking the fourth wall? "
1. I agree that the best definition of breaking the "Fourth Wall" is Zack Morris from 'Saved By The Bell,' the children in "Funny Games," The Crypt Keeper, and people argue that Joker does so in Batman: Arkham Asylum with his comments like, "I'm watching all of you. Yes, even you!" 

2./3. While it is a meta-reference to an incredibly personal and approachable activity, journaling or internal narration are not breaking the fourth wall.

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