To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?
Rorschach
Character » Rorschach appears in 118 issues.
A violent, noir detective/anti-hero and the chief protagonist of the "Watchmen" series. With a black-and-white worldview and an uncompromising moral code, Rorschach is well-known among criminals as the terror of the underworld.
Is it wrong?
Not at all my friend. I thought this guy was an awesome character and the idea of him breaking little fingers in Gotham is pretty cool but ya know, Watchmen is all self-contained and good. You wouldn't really wanna ruin it with cross-overs and stuff. I dunno. Am I contradicting myself?
Gottheit says:
"To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?"
It couldn't be wrong too. I actually just read it today, and I think he deserves a second chance. Or, maybe he did. Read "Kingdom Come". He's in there.
Rorschach, to me, is a better hero than most. He stands up there with Batman and many others because he doesn't exactly have powers, per se. Granted, he's a brilliant criminologist, and deft at escaping, but that's what makes him all the more powerful as a character: he's HUMAN. Those types of characters tend to be more powerful for the reader because you can relate to them so much. It makes me wish he'd come back... But then again, Rorschach's death puts his humanity into a rather dramatic perspective. Truly, one of the greatest characters ever.
yes it is bad, the whole point was that he died for wat he believed in, by letting him live all realism and therefore all the deeper meanings of Watchmen are trivial not really helpful to real life.
yeah, i think rorschach is everyone's favorite watchmen character. but his death was extremely important to the story. something would have been lost if they'd kept him alive. rorschach represents the black-and-white view of good and evil. those who do wrong must be punished, those who do not do wrong must be protected, and as he said near the end, without compromise. to die at the hands of dr. manhattan is fitting because manhattan and veidt represented the shrewd reasoning based on reality rather than ideals. they try to create a better world by meeting evil somewhere in the middle, and this is our typical nature. there are so few people unwilling to compromise truth, justice, and honor, and those people get walked over by the whores of the "real world". it is about the choice between working toward an ideal world and working within the already existing world. the ideal usually loses. it's important to remember that moore's story does not point us in a certain direction. it is a reflection on the world as it is, a blunt and terrifying reminder of the people we've become, and what we're capable of. moore wants to take us out of our daily lives and meditate on the various psychologies that drift throughout mankind. and amongst those is rorschach, the tragic hero who, like captain america, finds his proper place in death. at least until the world decides to revive him.
The whole time he is in jail was probably my favorite moments from the whole comic. He is effin brilliant!
"No, DC already has The Question.To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?
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"Gottheit said:"No, DC already has The Question."To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?
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They are nothing alike.
"the human Juggernaut said:right, I guess Moore was wrong when he said he was partially based on the question."Gottheit said:"No, DC already has The Question."To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?
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They are nothing alike."
"John Valentine said:He's nothing like the Question."the human Juggernaut said:right, I guess Moore was wrong when he said he was partially based on the question.""Gottheit said:"No, DC already has The Question."To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?
"
They are nothing alike."
I know what you mean. But Batman would pretty much try to kill Rorschach if he showed up in his city.The WeatherMan said:
"The whole time he is in jail was probably my favorite moments from the whole comic. He is effin brilliant!"
His jail sequence is the best jail sequence ever! I loved it even more than the prison break in Face/Off. Only INSANELY great men find ways to electrocute men..oh and kill men with fat and a swirly (yes a SWIRLY) in prison.
I'M NOT STUCK IN HERE WITH YOU, YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME!!!!!
Man, posting that great classic line almost put a tear in my eye. lol
"gunswordfist said:I'M NOT STUCK IN HERE WITH YOU, YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME!!!!!
Classic."
It sure is. My personal favorite Watchmen line.
I personally prefer:
"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' "
"I actually like the movie's version better.The latest trailer is brilliant.
"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "
It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
rorscach was a great character....but if they started doing things like that it might be the whole series bad...the whole series of watchmen really tried to put an end to superheroes....plus while rorschach was great in watchmen, he wouldnt last amounst the rest of dc's superheroes
"Acheron said:I've watched it so many times lately. It's so much better than the first trailer.....the music really fits."I actually like the movie's version better.The latest trailer is brilliant."
"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "
It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
"John Valentine said:Is it by Muse?"Acheron said:I've watched it so many times lately. It's so much better than the first trailer.....the music really fits.""I actually like the movie's version better.The latest trailer is brilliant."
"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "
It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
"Acheron said:Yep. "Take A Bow". Great song."John Valentine said:Is it by Muse?""Acheron said:I've watched it so many times lately. It's so much better than the first trailer.....the music really fits.""I actually like the movie's version better.The latest trailer is brilliant."
"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "
It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
"John Valentine said:"Acheron said:Yep. "Take A Bow". Great song.""John Valentine said:Is it by Muse?""Acheron said:I've watched it so many times lately. It's so much better than the first trailer.....the music really fits.""I actually like the movie's version better.The latest trailer is brilliant."
"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "
It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
I think Muse are over-rated.
"John Valentine said:"I think Muse are over-rated."Really? Aside from inside of my family, I haven't heard any talk of them. At school, entertainment sites/magazines, etc.
It's almost like they don't exist O_o
I like em though. Black Holes and Revelations is a great CD, IMO."
In England people are obsessed.
"Acheron said:Oh, yeah, that's probably why. I live in Canada. Not so much hype over here :/"John Valentine said:"I think Muse are over-rated."Really? Aside from inside of my family, I haven't heard any talk of them. At school, entertainment sites/magazines, etc.
It's almost like they don't exist O_o
I like em though. Black Holes and Revelations is a great CD, IMO."
In England people are obsessed."
"John Valentine said:Where abouts?"Acheron said:Oh, yeah, that's probably why. I live in Canada. Not so much hype over here :/""John Valentine said:"I think Muse are over-rated."Really? Aside from inside of my family, I haven't heard any talk of them. At school, entertainment sites/magazines, etc.
It's almost like they don't exist O_o
I like em though. Black Holes and Revelations is a great CD, IMO."
In England people are obsessed."
"John Valentine said:I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times."Where abouts?"British Columbia, close to the west coast."
"Acheron said:Ah yeah? Is it really as cold as people say it is in the Yukon? I've heard it being described as -70 degrees in some places. That's brutal...."John Valentine said:I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times.""Where abouts?"British Columbia, close to the west coast."
"John Valentine said:Yes. Well I've only been there during the summer. I stayed a few nights at a town called "Whitehorse"."Acheron said:Ah yeah? Is it really as cold as people say it is in the Yukon? I've heard it being described as -70 degrees in some places. That's brutal....""John Valentine said:I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times.""Where abouts?"British Columbia, close to the west coast."
"Acheron said:Yeah, I imagine you'd only go to Whitehorse. It's probably the only town in the territory that's got a airport, lol."John Valentine said:Yes. Well I've only been there during the summer. I stayed a few nights at a town called "Whitehorse".""Acheron said:Ah yeah? Is it really as cold as people say it is in the Yukon? I've heard it being described as -70 degrees in some places. That's brutal....""John Valentine said:I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times.""Where abouts?"British Columbia, close to the west coast."
"John Valentine said:"Acheron said:Yeah, I imagine you'd only go to Whitehorse. It's probably the only town in the territory that's got a airport, lol.""John Valentine said:Yes. Well I've only been there during the summer. I stayed a few nights at a town called "Whitehorse".""Acheron said:Ah yeah? Is it really as cold as people say it is in the Yukon? I've heard it being described as -70 degrees in some places. That's brutal....""John Valentine said:I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times.""Where abouts?"British Columbia, close to the west coast."
We actually drove across from Alaska.
"John Valentine said:"We actually drove across from Alaska."Wow, didn't expect that, lol. Was that your vacation or something or other?"
Yes. Anchoarage. Fairbanks. Juneau. Seward. Talkeetna. Denali National Park. Whitehorse. etc etc.
"Acheron said:Nice! That's a great trip."John Valentine said:"We actually drove across from Alaska."Wow, didn't expect that, lol. Was that your vacation or something or other?"
Yes. Anchoarage. Fairbanks. Juneau. Seward. Talkeetna. Denali National Park. Whitehorse. etc etc."
Last vacation I went on was down to Disneyland....I was seven, lol. Disneyland, Las Vegas, and Hollywood.
We have derailed this thread something heavy, LOL
"John Valentine said:Haha yeah."Acheron said:Nice! That's a great trip."John Valentine said:"We actually drove across from Alaska."Wow, didn't expect that, lol. Was that your vacation or something or other?"
Yes. Anchoarage. Fairbanks. Juneau. Seward. Talkeetna. Denali National Park. Whitehorse. etc etc."
Last vacation I went on was down to Disneyland....I was seven, lol. Disneyland, Las Vegas, and Hollywood.
We have derailed this thread something heavy, LOL"
Oh well Rorshach shouldn't be so awesome.
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