Is it wrong?

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#1 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?

#2 Posted by The Iron Gut (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Not at all my friend. I thought this guy was an awesome character and the idea of him breaking little fingers in Gotham is pretty cool but ya know, Watchmen is all self-contained and good. You wouldn't really wanna ruin it with cross-overs and stuff. I dunno. Am I contradicting myself?

#3 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

Gottheit says:

"To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?"

It couldn't be wrong too. I actually just read it today, and I think he deserves a second chance. Or, maybe he did. Read "Kingdom Come". He's in there.

#4 Posted by Tanarian (3 posts) - - Show Bio

I want more Rorschach. It makes me sad that he's dead. And if he's not it makes me sad that he lost his hat.

#5 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

Tanarian says:

"I want more Rorschach. It makes me sad that he's dead. And if he's not it makes me sad that he lost his hat."

lol same here bro

#6 Posted by Tanarian (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol. I'm glad you agree but I'm a female actually. :D

#7 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, amazing to see that this thread still gets the occasional response. That's all I ever wanted from life...

#8 Posted by Tanarian (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Glad to have fulfilled you.

#9 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

Heh. You fulfilled me. Very talented work there, Tanarian.

#10 Posted by bdog (118 posts) - - Show Bio

Gottheit says:

"To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?"

No not at all he's too awesome

#11 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorscach...why did you leave us? Noooooooooooooooo

#12 Posted by Assimilation (955 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved that homicidal maniac. it is so depressing.

#13 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

everyone loves Rorschach

#14 Posted by The Informant (59 posts) - - Show Bio

Resonate says:

"everyone loves Rorschach"

yeah we do. He was a true hero.

#15 Posted by Zayc (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd love to see more of him. A Rorschach: Year one series would be cool.

#16 Posted by The Harlequin (4 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach, to me, is a better hero than most.  He stands up there with Batman and many others because he doesn't exactly have powers, per se.  Granted, he's a brilliant criminologist, and deft at escaping, but that's what makes him all the more powerful as a character: he's HUMAN.  Those types of characters tend to be more powerful for the reader because you can relate to them so much.  It makes me wish he'd come back...  But then again, Rorschach's death puts his humanity into a rather dramatic perspective.  Truly, one of the greatest characters ever.

#17 Posted by crazy spidey (3489 posts) - - Show Bio

yes it is bad, the whole point was that he died for wat he believed in, by letting him live all realism and therefore all the deeper meanings of Watchmen are trivial not really helpful to real life.

#18 Edited by capsvibranium (32 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah, i think rorschach is everyone's favorite watchmen character.  but his death was extremely important to the story.  something would have been lost if they'd kept him alive.  rorschach represents the black-and-white view of good and evil.  those who do wrong must be punished, those who do not do wrong must be protected, and as he said near the end, without compromise.  to die at the hands of dr. manhattan is fitting because manhattan and veidt represented the shrewd reasoning based on reality rather than ideals.  they try to create a better world by meeting evil somewhere in the middle, and this is our typical nature.  there are so few people unwilling to compromise truth, justice, and honor, and those people get walked over by the whores of the "real world".  it is about the choice between working toward an ideal world and working within the already existing world.  the ideal usually loses.  it's important to remember that moore's story does not point us in a certain direction.  it is a reflection on the world as it is, a blunt and terrifying reminder of the people we've become, and what we're capable of.  moore wants to take us out of our daily lives and meditate on the various psychologies that drift throughout mankind.  and amongst those is rorschach, the tragic hero who, like captain america, finds his proper place in death.  at least until the world decides to revive him. 

#19 Posted by The WeatherMan (3214 posts) - - Show Bio

The whole time he is in jail was probably my favorite moments from the whole comic. He is effin brilliant!

#20 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Gottheit said:
"

To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?

"
No, DC already has The Question.
#21 Posted by The WeatherMan (3214 posts) - - Show Bio

The question is okay, but nowhere as cool as Roscharch.

#22 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Gottheit said:
"

To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?

"
No, DC already has The Question."

They are nothing alike.
#23 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"Gottheit said:
"

To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?

"
No, DC already has The Question."

They are nothing alike."
right, I guess Moore was wrong when he said he was partially based on the question.
#24 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"John Valentine said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"Gottheit said:
"

To want to see that Rorschach isn't killed, but rather through some tear in fabric or something is transported to Gotham? Is it wrong to want to see this guy keep going?

"
No, DC already has The Question."

They are nothing alike."
right, I guess Moore was wrong when he said he was partially based on the question."
He's nothing like the Question.
#25 Posted by gunswordfist (2669 posts) - - Show Bio

I know what you mean. But Batman would pretty much try to kill Rorschach if he showed up in his city.The WeatherMan said:

"The whole time he is in jail was probably my favorite moments from the whole comic. He is effin brilliant!"

His jail sequence is the best jail sequence ever! I loved it even more than the prison break in Face/Off. Only INSANELY great men find ways to electrocute men..oh and kill men with fat and a swirly (yes a SWIRLY) in prison.

I'M NOT STUCK IN HERE WITH YOU, YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME!!!!!

Man, posting that great classic line almost put a tear in my eye. lol
#26 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
gunswordfist said:
I'M NOT STUCK IN HERE WITH YOU, YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME!!!!!

Classic.
#27 Posted by gunswordfist (2669 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"gunswordfist said:
I'M NOT STUCK IN HERE WITH YOU, YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME!!!!!

Classic."

It sure is. My personal favorite Watchmen line.
#28 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally prefer:

"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' "

#29 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually like the movie's version better.

"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "

It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful.

#30 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"I actually like the movie's version better.

"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "

It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
The latest trailer is brilliant.
#31 Posted by Trackz (979 posts) - - Show Bio

rorscach was a great character....but if they started doing things like that it might be the whole series bad...the whole series of watchmen really tried to put an end to superheroes....plus while rorschach was great in watchmen, he wouldnt last amounst the rest of dc's superheroes

#32 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"I actually like the movie's version better.

"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "

It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
The latest trailer is brilliant."
I've watched it so many times lately. It's so much better than the first trailer.....the music really fits.
#33 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"I actually like the movie's version better.

"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "

It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
The latest trailer is brilliant."
I've watched it so many times lately. It's so much better than the first trailer.....the music really fits."
Is it by Muse?
#34 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"I actually like the movie's version better.

"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "

It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
The latest trailer is brilliant."
I've watched it so many times lately. It's so much better than the first trailer.....the music really fits."
Is it by Muse?"
Yep. "Take A Bow". Great song.
#35 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"I actually like the movie's version better.

"The world will look up at me and scream 'Save us!'. And I will look down, and whisper....'no' "

It sounds a lot more widespread and makes him sound more bitter/hateful."
The latest trailer is brilliant."
I've watched it so many times lately. It's so much better than the first trailer.....the music really fits."
Is it by Muse?"
Yep. "Take A Bow". Great song."

I think Muse are over-rated.
#36 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"I think Muse are over-rated."
Really? Aside from inside of my family, I haven't heard any talk of them. At school, entertainment sites/magazines, etc.

It's almost like they don't exist O_o

I like em though. Black Holes and Revelations is a great CD, IMO.
#37 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"I think Muse are over-rated."
Really? Aside from inside of my family, I haven't heard any talk of them. At school, entertainment sites/magazines, etc.

It's almost like they don't exist O_o

I like em though. Black Holes and Revelations is a great CD, IMO."

In England people are obsessed.
#38 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"I think Muse are over-rated."
Really? Aside from inside of my family, I haven't heard any talk of them. At school, entertainment sites/magazines, etc.

It's almost like they don't exist O_o

I like em though. Black Holes and Revelations is a great CD, IMO."

In England people are obsessed."
Oh, yeah, that's probably why. I live in Canada. Not so much hype over here :/
#39 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"I think Muse are over-rated."
Really? Aside from inside of my family, I haven't heard any talk of them. At school, entertainment sites/magazines, etc.

It's almost like they don't exist O_o

I like em though. Black Holes and Revelations is a great CD, IMO."

In England people are obsessed."
Oh, yeah, that's probably why. I live in Canada. Not so much hype over here :/"
Where abouts?
#40 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Where abouts?"
British Columbia, close to the west coast.
#41 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Where abouts?"
British Columbia, close to the west coast."
I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times.
#42 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Where abouts?"
British Columbia, close to the west coast."
I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times."
Ah yeah? Is it really as cold as people say it is in the Yukon? I've heard it being described as -70 degrees in some places. That's brutal....
#43 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Where abouts?"
British Columbia, close to the west coast."
I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times."
Ah yeah? Is it really as cold as people say it is in the Yukon? I've heard it being described as -70 degrees in some places. That's brutal...."
Yes. Well I've only been there during the summer. I stayed a few nights at a town called "Whitehorse".
#44 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Where abouts?"
British Columbia, close to the west coast."
I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times."
Ah yeah? Is it really as cold as people say it is in the Yukon? I've heard it being described as -70 degrees in some places. That's brutal...."
Yes. Well I've only been there during the summer. I stayed a few nights at a town called "Whitehorse"."
Yeah, I imagine you'd only go to Whitehorse. It's probably the only town in the territory that's got a airport, lol.
#45 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Where abouts?"
British Columbia, close to the west coast."
I've been to BC, Alberta and the Yukon several times."
Ah yeah? Is it really as cold as people say it is in the Yukon? I've heard it being described as -70 degrees in some places. That's brutal...."
Yes. Well I've only been there during the summer. I stayed a few nights at a town called "Whitehorse"."
Yeah, I imagine you'd only go to Whitehorse. It's probably the only town in the territory that's got a airport, lol."

We actually drove across from Alaska.
#46 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"We actually drove across from Alaska."
Wow, didn't expect that, lol. Was that your vacation or something or other?
#47 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"We actually drove across from Alaska."
Wow, didn't expect that, lol. Was that your vacation or something or other?"

Yes. Anchoarage. Fairbanks. Juneau. Seward. Talkeetna. Denali National Park. Whitehorse. etc etc.
#48 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"We actually drove across from Alaska."
Wow, didn't expect that, lol. Was that your vacation or something or other?"

Yes. Anchoarage. Fairbanks. Juneau. Seward. Talkeetna. Denali National Park. Whitehorse. etc etc."
Nice! That's a great trip.

Last vacation I went on was down to Disneyland....I was seven, lol. Disneyland, Las Vegas, and Hollywood.

We have derailed this thread something heavy, LOL
#49 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"Acheron said:
"John Valentine said:
"We actually drove across from Alaska."
Wow, didn't expect that, lol. Was that your vacation or something or other?"

Yes. Anchoarage. Fairbanks. Juneau. Seward. Talkeetna. Denali National Park. Whitehorse. etc etc."
Nice! That's a great trip.

Last vacation I went on was down to Disneyland....I was seven, lol. Disneyland, Las Vegas, and Hollywood.

We have derailed this thread something heavy, LOL"
Haha yeah.

Oh well Rorshach shouldn't be so awesome.
#50 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL!

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