Rogue & Magneto?

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#1 Posted by leigh_rogue888 (116 posts) - - Show Bio

I just saw that new pic of Rogue and Magneto, couldn't get it over here but I was wondering whats everyone's opinion on if marvel will try and pair her up with him again or will Rogue try and make it work out with Remy. Although Remy seems to be having his own troubles (with the leftover Horsemen of Death thing).

#2 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's just a cover.  Adi Granov's been doing a lot of cover work for Marvel, while the interior art doesn't compare.  It's been about 2 decades since there was an 'almost' relationship between them in the mainstream Earth-616 universe.  I can't say I'm that bothered about them as a couple... would rather she just shag Gambit & be done with it ;) 
 

X-Men: Legacy #232
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#3 Posted by leigh_rogue888 (116 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree it might be just a cover the little description with the preview hints that she is going somewhere else on a mission. But with this being a pivotal point in Rogue's life and telling Gambit she needs time...I am a little suspicious with them have a past.  We thought Cyclops would be with Jean forever at one point maybe they are going to put one other big change.

#4 Edited by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, given that in Legacy #223, Rogue had a hallucination/memory in which she went back to the Savage Land and she and Magneto looked at each other and said, 'It wouldn't have worked", and when asked about this cover and the 'ship on his facebook page, Carey said: 
 
>>>" I don't want to talk too much about the relationship beats, guys, but I can promise no love triangles. Love octohedrons, though, that's different..."<<< 
 
 And in his repeated attempts to shove that relationship down the readers' throats Lobdell turned Rogue into a co-dependant train wreck that Carey only just rehabilitated her from, 
I suspect this is just an homage/red herring. 
 
So it's doubtful this means anything. 
 
Even if it does, I trust Carey. He has done a great job with both characters, so I'm in a "wait and see" mode.
 
As to my opinion of the fanfic wannabe 'ship itself, as it stands, that can be summed up in a "No", "Gawd, no.' and "Hell, no!" 
 
There is no past between them, only that single little moment o'lust in Uncanny X-Men #274. That's it. Claremont never meant for them to be a 'ship (he has even said so when asked) . They never even exchanged words in Uncanny while they were living in the same house when Magneto was Headmaster of the New Mutants. Claremont even closed the door on it in X-Men Vol. 2 #2 when Magneto treated Rogue just like the other X-Men and brainwashed her with everyone else. (He was more concerned about Charles and Moira than he was about Rogue.) The problem is Lobdell latched onto it and tried blow it up into this huge thing it never should have been that ended up trashing both characters. Joseph was Magneto with his spine ripped out that had to be retconned offstage, and I've already mentioned how much Rogue was damaged by it.  She kept throwing herself at Magneto over and over. His attitude was "Look, you're a cute kid, but get out of my way." The more he turned her down, the more attached she became to the idea of them being together until it actually got rather pathetic. 
 
And it still did not work.
 
That is because pairing just does not work on multiple levels. It's like the "Cameron/House" 'ship. Yes, a little physical chemistry, but they are so different there is no way a relationship could get off the ground. Not only do the two characters have absolutely nothing in common beyond both being mutants (I mean really, what would they talk about? Can you imagine a casual dinner conversation between the two of them?) but for Magneto to be in a relationship that is believable, he has to be with someone who is strong enough and wise enough to deal with someone who is as emotionally volatile as he, with out being cowed by him or reacting in a way that makes him more emotionally volatile. Someon who is strong enough to love him without falling into his shadow.

Someone like Storm is much better equipped to deal with someone like Magnus than Rogue is. Storm and Magneto are not interested in each other, never have been, but but for a 'ship involving him to be believable  it needs to be someone on that level.

#5 Posted by Foreverbbyily (225 posts) - - Show Bio

Idk but i loved her with remy they made the pefect couple just like emma and scott :)
#6 Posted by LoganRogue24 (1187 posts) - - Show Bio

Rogue should hook up with Wolvie in my opion never liked her with Gambit or Magneto.
#7 Posted by Gene_Pool (704 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Rogue and Gambit, but it's gotten boring now. Since the comic universe is ongoing, things need to be shook up once in a while. Pairing Rogue and Magneto would be a nice way to do it, IMO, if the writers actually put time and effort into it.  
 
Just think to waaaay back when, if there had been hints of Scott/Emma.... everyone would've been like "No," "Gawd, no," and (from the Jean/Scott fans) "Hell no!"  :) 
And look at the couple now. People love them.  
 
It can happen, with time and good writers.
#8 Edited by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gene_Pool said:

"I love Rogue and Gambit, but it's gotten boring now. Since the comic universe is ongoing, things need to be shook up once in a while. Pairing Rogue and Magneto would be a nice way to do it, IMO, if the writers actually put time and effort into it.   Just think to waaaay back when, if there had been hints of Scott/Emma.... everyone would've been like "No," "Gawd, no," and (from the Jean/Scott fans) "Hell no!"  :) And look at the couple now. People love them.   It can happen, with time and good writers. "


Writers already did put time and effort into it, all through the 1990's. It's was awful.
#9 Posted by _Sojourn_ (19243 posts) - - Show Bio

wonderful cover...like the idea
#10 Posted by Roguegirl (169 posts) - - Show Bio

the cover is cool..but i dont think that it has to do with the story...and let's let maneto's and rogue's story behind..i like magneto but not for rogue..

#11 Posted by leigh_rogue888 (116 posts) - - Show Bio

There s the fact that Rogue can never really believe Magneto's dream but with Cyclops doing the repeat of Astroid M off the coast of San Francisco she is there isn't she.  The little description to the story wood say that there's in no romance going to happen between the two.  There is hints of Gambit getting unstable and itching on the island, I just don't know what to expect and its driving me crazy.  If its not Magneto and not Gambit, I don't know who wood be a better partner for her, not Wolverine though he has his own problems now. I have always loved Rogue and Gambit, I just hope the two of them can be together and have a "normal" relationship together, well as normal as anyone X-men can get.

#12 Posted by kneel before doom (304 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, Magneto can tap her.

#13 Posted by leigh_rogue888 (116 posts) - - Show Bio

She can tap whoever she wants now.

#14 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pania said:
" Someone like Storm is much better equipped to deal with someone like Magnus than Rogue is. Storm and Magneto are not interested in each other, never have been, but but for a 'ship involving him to be believable  it needs to be someone on that level. "
i love that you threw that out there.
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#15 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio

WOW!
 
What a hot couplee.

#16 Posted by leigh_rogue888 (116 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be interesting to see but those are both really strong personalities. Plus Storm is busy with T'Challa in Wakanda and trying to be an X-man, I don't see them getting together anytime soon if it could happen.

#17 Posted by Roguegirl (169 posts) - - Show Bio
@pixelized:
more arguments pleaseee
#18 Posted by Gene_Pool (704 posts) - - Show Bio

A major complaint about Rogue's character is her emotional weakness. She's always upset about something, she's always heart-broken over Remy. Rogue is rarely happy nowadays.  
 
Perhaps they could strengthen her character by pairing her with Magneto. He might be just what she needs to get over Remy and accept that life isn't easy or fair. Rogue might learn to toughen up and get over herself (as so many wish she would) by spending time with Magneto. And not just a little stint in the Savage Lands where it turns out Magneto was up to no good. And Joseph shouldn't count.  
 
Rogue could possibly be good for Magneto too. When ever he goes off the deep end, she could use her powers to keep him in check, or at least try. Though that would be no fun, cuz then we wouldnt get any villainous/anti-hero appearances from him.  
 
Maybe she should just switch over her allegiances to him and vow to fight for mutant-kind. She's more useful on the "bad" side anyway.

#19 Edited by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Putting a codependent person in another relationship is not "strengthening" them.  They just end up repeating the pattern with another person.
 
And physical violence between couples is never conducive to a good relaitonship.
 
Rogue is supposedly better now, having sorting things out in her head in legacy, but she and Magneto are *not* a good match. Magneto is and incredibly overbearing personality who is still extremely emotionally damaged, he is incapable of relating to his own children on an emotional level. And he is still hung up on his wife that he lost at least over 40 years ago, and he has major rage issues, a power induced bi-polar disorder, and PTSD, and reacts murderously to attempt to control him (look what he did to Pietro in House of M, that was not the first time he has reacted violently to being manipulated).
 
Rogue is not up to dealing with that. 
 
And again, can people really see these two characters just hanging out togther, talking about whatever? Just a casual conversation about movies and music and general stuff? Just enjoying each others company like couples do?
 
@pixelized said:

" @Pania said:

" Someone like Storm is much better equipped to deal with someone like Magnus than Rogue is. Storm and Magneto are not interested in each other, never have been, but but for a 'ship involving him to be believable  it needs to be someone on that level. "
i love that you threw that out there. "

Well, I honestly do not have a problem with either character being in a relaitonship, i just would like to see them in relationships I can find believable. Like Warren and Betsy. You read that, you got it. Storm and Forge, again that was a believe relationship. Magneto-Rogue? WTH? I'm reading a story about people with superpowers, my suspension of disbelief does not need further strain. ;-)
#20 Posted by Gene_Pool (704 posts) - - Show Bio

Rogue can again change into a strong woman who can deal with Magneto. Of course, she'd lose fans who loved her for her emotional personality. But again look at Scott, and how much his character has changed over the years. Especially now that he's hooked up with Emma. If goody-goody Scott can have a relationship with a badass former-villainess like Emma Frost, then surely Rogue can have a character change and be a suitable partner for Magneto? Until writers get bored and break them up.  
 
Then again, I just like the idea of a neutral/sometimes-villain Rogue who uses her powers to "help mutantkind." Kind of like how she did in the Brotherhood working for Mystique, but stronger and fully accepting of her decisions. Just bored of good hero X-man Rogue. I wanna see her switch sides. Like Magneto so often does.  :)
#21 Posted by leigh_rogue888 (116 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry I have to disagree I don't really want to see Rogue turn bad. BUT I have to admit that it is a possiblity due to her being a bad guy before she absorbed a bunch of different personalities.  Maybe when she absorbed the good guys personalities she absorbed the want to be good.  I have seen it in some of her history description history, it doesn't seem so far fetched, I just hope it doesn't happen. I like her as good guy and I want to see where they take her now that the powers are under control whether it is towards Magneto, Gambit, or wherever.

#22 Edited by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gene_Pool : If you have to completely alter a character to put them into a relationship, A. it automatically weakens the character because you make her as changeable as the wind for romantic purposes. How can you take a real person like that seriously, much less a comic book character? And B. it is a BIG statement that the relationship does not really work/ is not plausible. They already tried completely altering one of them to try to make this 'ship sail: Magneto became Joseph. 
 
Still did not work.  

And again can you really see the two of them just hanging out like couples do? 
 
Rogue has already faced her "I was a bad guy once, am I meant to be a bad guy or a good guy" demons waaaay back in the day in Uncanny #185 . She's had the extra personalities washed out fo her a couple times now, she's still been a Hero.
#23 Posted by leigh_rogue888 (116 posts) - - Show Bio

Question then I know in X-treme X-men her powers disappeared but she wasn't wiped completely clean, like when Hope cleaned her up. Her powers are gone (and on several different other occasions too) but I am willing to bet the memories are still there. I am still collecting but what happened in Uncanny #185?  As we saw in Legacy Xavier took out the very first personality that screwed up her powers, Cody.  So she was never completely clean....

#24 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, but passing through Siege Perilous took out the Carol Danvers personae which would have been the strongest influence in Rogue being a hero (none of the other personalities were mentioned, but I assume if Carol was gone they would be gone they would be wiped out as well) , and Rogue still was a hero.

#25 Edited by gambit18 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

 I do not love emma scott, for me. will always steals husbands.

Magnus rogue could be interesting, but its truths will always love remy,  if they come together  ... only be temporary. 
 
 
addition, another recent rogue data is increasing their mutant powers, if before I felt the most powerful  x -woman, now God knows that will come with age.  yes, I know this has nothing to do, but I wanted to mention lol
 
 
 Gambit / Rgue  are the best
 
 
 
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And again, can people really see these two characters just hanging out togther, talking about whatever? Just a casual conversation about movies and music and general stuff? Just enjoying each others company like couples do?


 

 If rogue is a very intelligent woman, besides funny, and powerful ...

 

but it is only by answer,

magneto and rogue, not

gambit and rogue, perfect 
#26 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto and Rogue should be together!
I'm sick of all the Remy/Rogue drama, it just gets soo boring! 
 
Bring on a fresh romance!

#27 Posted by gambit18 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

Fresh with magneto?  I think not,   I'd rather see her with sam.  
 
 But not,  her and remy  are made for each other .

#28 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH you must be kidding !!!!! Magneto could be her grandpa !!!

#29 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoOMbOoMpOw:  Which is why it's so good!   and age is just a number anyway! lol
#30 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio
@AngelFrost: lol but I still think that rogue and magneto don´t fit to each other.
#31 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoOMbOoMpOw:  Lol, well anyone is better than her and Remy, it's gotten sooo boring now.
#32 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio

you are right but its just a true that they are togther beee a sooo cute couple

#33 Posted by Calix (487 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't_quiet_know_but_i_think_that_cover_has_more_to_do_with_Magnus_&_Rogue's_role_in_that_of_the_X-kids_as_oppose_to_his_and_Rogue's_personal_relationship.
 
I_think_Rogue's_currently_at_the_place_where_she_could_handle_working_along_Magnus,_while_still_remain_alert_of_his_moves._
I_don't_want_to_exclude_a_relationship_thou_if_for_no_other_reason_than_Crystal's_and_Ronan's_marriage_seems_to_work_well_and_I_was_apprehensive_of_that_one.
 
I_just_am_so_over_Gambit/Rogue

#34 Posted by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio
@Calix: Space bar died?
 
Went through that last week...
#35 Posted by Calix (487 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pania: Yeah!_Thursday!!!
 
The_new_Comp_is_arriving_next_week._but_this_weeks_comics_were_too_good_to_forgo_checking_in_with_you_guys.
#36 Edited by Pania (1759 posts) - - Show Bio
@Calix: *chuckle* I feel ya. Did the exact same thing last week when my cat dumped a glass of juice on my keyboard. Not only was I using dashes, but I was cutting and pasting letters and words to replace the middle row of characters. 
 
Oh, the extremes our fandom takes us to...
 
Glad you are getting a new PC soon. :)
#37 Posted by Calix (487 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pania: Exactly._LOL.
#38 Posted by Roguegirl (169 posts) - - Show Bio
@AngelFrost said:
" @BoOMbOoMpOw:  Lol, well anyone is better than her and Remy, it's gotten sooo boring now. "
why to distroy something like rogue and remy's relationship...it's very popular among other important marvel couples
#39 Posted by Degobunny (4 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit and Rogue have become painful for me to watch. I think Rogue/magneto is like trying to beat a dead horse. Wolverine is okay with Rogue but why must he hook up with every female in the Marvel universe. Best case scenerio Rogue ends up with Iceman. I do not care about the mystique connection at this point. Iceman and Rogue have proven in the Ultimate universe to be a good couple. They are already good friends in the regular universe, so i say take it to the next level.

#40 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoOMbOoMpOw:  Silly you :P   I for one think they would be a good,  the perfect Marvel Power Couple. ^^
#41 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio
@AngelFrost: No sry I don`t think so :P
#42 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoOMbOoMpOw:  Boo you :P
#43 Posted by crimsonspider89 (817 posts) - - Show Bio

What people are forgetting is that Rogue and Mags are a couple in the AoA universe. And a pretty good one at that. Heck, she nearly chose a younger Magneto clone over Remy with Joseph.  
 
Will most likely happen though with the way writers have been hinting.

#44 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio

@AngelFrost: Boo you ! :)



#45 Posted by warlock360 (28050 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoOMbOoMpOw said:
" AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH you must be kidding !!!!! Magneto could be her grandpa !!! "
seriously, a long time ago i made a thread on marvel.com about that topic and asked the girls, they saw it as a turn on O.o
#46 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart: eww a turn on ?
#47 Posted by warlock360 (28050 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart said:
" @BoOMbOoMpOw said:
" AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH you must be kidding !!!!! Magneto could be her grandpa !!! "
seriously, a long time ago i made a thread on marvel.com about that topic and asked the girls, they saw it as a turn on O.o "
Yep, it's definately a turn on for me.  :3
Older men ... yummy.
#49 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart: There`s a girl that means he`s somking hot O.o bähhh  
@AngelFrost: hahaha older men yummy you`re kidding right O-O ?
#50 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoOMbOoMpOw:  Older men, yes. But not as old as Magneto .... but anyway, Him and Rogue would make a nice couple. :P

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