Rogue
Character » Rogue appears in 6624 issues.
The adopted daughter of Mystique, Rogue was once a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. Now reformed, Rogue has become a veteran member of the X-Men.
Off My Mind: Retconning Rogue's Sex Life
even in death.... Sentry is still a "plug and play" character.
"How do we get the X-men at his funeral?
"...um. OH! Lets have Rouge be his teenaged lover!"
your right. it doesn't make much sense. either they boinked recently when his wife was dead (which is messed up), or it was when Rouge was still young and crushing on Gambit (which takes away from the epic romance it was).
...either way, this is something that could have easily never have happened. Stupid Marvel.
Am I the only one who is confused on the order of all this? When does Siege happen in regards to the following, Fall of the Hulks/Hulked out Heroes, Second Coming and the whole Romulus/Wolverine story?
" @Beatrix: Am I the only one who is confused on the order of all this? When does Siege happen in regards to the following, Fall of the Hulks/Hulked out Heroes, Second Coming and the whole Romulus/Wolverine story? "What, you still think Marvel gives a damn about continuity between titles...or even within titles? I dare you even to give me a solid chronology of events within Dark Avengers. The Hulk stuff and the most of the X-Overs might as well be happening in alternate universes.
"Wow...I haven't read this issue yet, but this does seem REALLY cheap...Why would they feel the need to even add this in? Especially if they do not explain enough about when and why it happened. I honestly hope this is just swept under the run because this has no reason whatsoever to be a part of the MU. "
I agree with this.
Hopefully it wasn't "sex" (which they love to do in the Ultimate universe) and maybe just "date".
It's so vague, it could be one or the other.
lol a solid chronology of Dark Avengers eh? Lemme try, they fight Morgana, Sentry gets killed, Sentry comes back, Moonstone sleeps around, tie in to Utopia reaking of "weak sauce", Noh-Varr disappears , enter the Molecule Man wherein....you guessed it Sentry gets killed... only to come back with the powers to do whatever he wants for any reason ever. Then we enter the trainwreck leading into Siege. I see where you're goin with this. Nothing against Dark Avengers, was one of my favorite runs recently, but the timeline is indeed convoluted to say the least. As are my feelings towards the Sentry as well.
Yeah, I didn't get this. This issue isn't a must-have. Thing explains why he hates Reynolds' guts, but doesn't anymore. It was a waste, I was expecting "Fallen(not actual title)" to deliver a lot more than this.
"@Blindside002 said:"Wow...I haven't read this issue yet, but this does seem REALLY cheap...Why would they feel the need to even add this in? Especially if they do not explain enough about when and why it happened. I honestly hope this is just swept under the run because this has no reason whatsoever to be a part of the MU. "
I agree with this.
Hopefully it wasn't "sex" (which they love to do in the Ultimate universe) and maybe just "date". It's so vague, it could be one or the other. "
Very true, and I'm hoping it was just a relationship in which she could hug and touch him, rather than the idea of sex. Sadly though, my hope dwindles on that part.
Don't worry folks. It's just Rogue going Emo over something that's "bigger than her", and that she just wants attention.
Besides, as we know Marvel, THEY ALWAYS COME BACK, and when he does I'm sure Sentry won't even remember about it.
"@Jordanstine said:"@Blindside002 said:Very true, and I'm hoping it was just a relationship in which she could hug and touch him, rather than the idea of sex. Sadly though, my hope dwindles on that part. ""Wow...I haven't read this issue yet, but this does seem REALLY cheap...Why would they feel the need to even add this in? Especially if they do not explain enough about when and why it happened. I honestly hope this is just swept under the run because this has no reason whatsoever to be a part of the MU. "
I agree with this.
Hopefully it wasn't "sex" (which they love to do in the Ultimate universe) and maybe just "date". It's so vague, it could be one or the other. "
I'm sure they kept it deliberately vague, and even if you try to say it was sex, the dilaogue still doesn't quite work. Why would she say 'hug' so specifically then? Because she didn't want to confess it was sex? Why not just say 'touch' then? And why did she just confess it then on the plane?? (To Cyclops of all people?)
And how awkward is this then: "Did they..(have sex)?" - "yeah" - "How long?" What oh, he could keep it up for hours?? The 'How Long?" thing would really just work with "yeah they dated"
But like I said, Jenkins himself established that the Sentry didn't even know Rogue or any of the newer X-Men. Something I'm sure he had completely forgotten when he wrote this.
let's hope Sentry becomes a Captain Marvel or Gwen Stacy or something,
we need something of recent history to STAY dead.
He can be replaced with Marvel Man now that he's back in copyright terms to Marvel.
Haha, Huge Rogue Fan here, an well follow her where ever she may pop up...
As far as this goes... LOL Im just goin to say Get IT GURL... haha... Im just happy she got it on... Mean do ya blame the girl... Man everyone needs a sex life... After all were all human with or without powers... THis is To Funny tho... Out of No Where too... Man! Sentry an Rogue can keep a secret... all in all, I dont know Sentry that well, but I can say for Rogues sake... Better him than some other loser character... I dont blame Rogue for pickin him as a F-Buddy... LOL Sentry died with a HOT secret....
Well, as a Rogue fan myself, I have absolutely no problem with the idea that Rogue had some hidden sexual encounter with someone. I think that could be an interesting idea if worked out well. (and made believable) But this was just so stupidly done. And I can't for the life of me think of where this could ever fit in continuity. Jenkins clearly didn't think about this at all.
And the Sentry? Really? Couldn't it be Namor or Thor or some other cooler guy? Hell, make it the Grey Hulk!
And people are a little pissed that this was clearly Jenkins wanting to toss his pet character a bone to make him cooler at the end. And he chose Rogue's coochie. Clearly without knowing much of anything about her or her history. It kinda shows, and that's another reason most Rogue fans are pissed off, ya know?.
" I thought Jenkins was smarter than this. Stupid decision. "Jenkins had to clean up Bendis' mess.He hasn't wrote for Sentry since like '01.
""He was the only one who could hug me! ...Besides, you know, Colossus... and Magneto... and Magneto's clone... and anyone with a mutant power-inhibiting device." "
@Korg:
That's the funniest part. He is suggesting it was longer ago before Gambit and all that. But Jenkins himself has established the Sentry never knew Rogue in an earlier story. So it can only have happened after he came back, but that makes no sense with the dialogue in this scene.
"And people are a little pissed that this was clearly Jenkins wanting to toss his pet character a bone to make him cooler at the end. And he chose Rogue's coochie. "
Yah I hear ya bud... But Its already said an done... an put out theres... all we can do now is EMBRACE it... Considering the fact that Sentry and Rogue have never been seen as such... And maybe in time Jenkins or someone else well add some more light to this secret they both shared... All in good time...
"DiamondDog : "And people are a little pissed that this was clearly Jenkins wanting to toss his pet character a bone to make him cooler at the end. And he chose Rogue's coochie. " Yah I hear ya bud... But Its already said an done... an put out theres... all we can do now is EMBRACE it... Considering the fact that Sentry and Rogue have never been seen as such... And maybe in time Jenkins or someone else well add some more light to this secret they both shared... All in good time... "
Well, I gotta tell ya: I don't think they will revisit this. Like most Sentry related things, outside of stories with the Sentry, no one ever refers to all that stuff. I have a feeling no one will ever mention this again.
Mike Carey(ya know, writes Legacy) has already said he's pretty much going to ignore this. He was all polite and professional about it but he clearly didn't like this at all and said something about how he felt it was hard to reconcile this with Rogue's character and history.
So this will probably always be a headscratcher. When? How? Context? Circumstances? Without those answers its kinda hard to embrace it. A good writer might come up with something, but right now it just feels like bad fanfic to a lot of people.
They might also choose to ignore it because about 99% of Rogue fans are pissed and feel she was tossed to the Sentry like a cheap hooker....;)
For me to get upset about this would instantly put me into the running for an Oscar win, as I genuinely don't care about Rogue nor Bob, but why was this done? Us readers new nothing about a Rogue and Sentry relationship, so he being the only one to have had sex with her means nothing to us. It's like they established a character and killed him in the same panel, what was the point? Go home Marvel. If not for the recent release/sucess of the Ironman movie, DC would have laughed you out of the galaxy.
I love how in this issue Jenkins doesn't mention Sentry's reign under Bendis. It's like he was frustrated with Bendis (Let's face it, why wouldn't he be?)
Well if anything... I know Rogue... And regardless of how this all turned out... it doesn't change how much I love this character... An Iv excepted the fact that they put Rogue out there with a secret like this... Mean we all have secrets, in one way or another... I just hope that this is the extent of Rogue's Secrets... An if they ever added light regarding this secret... It wouldn't be for Sentry's sake (hints dead now) it would be for Rogue's... Regardless if they mention it again or not, This secrets out and apart of Rogue now and for that Id like to know more about it... Rather put shame to it... Even tho it has something to do with a subject of bad taste... Rogue is now apart of it and it her history... If anything it was a good laugh on my part, just proves to me that Rogue is just as human... an for that I don't see her any different and if so some fans do and are "pissed", well then I say to them " LET THIS GET BURIED WITH SENTRY" and don't blame Rogue for being human. An beside, Rogue Fans have always rolled with the punches just like Rogue would. Writers well write and theres nothing we can do about it... but move on.
u are kiddin' yourself if u don't think this changes EVERYTHING... what an irresponsible writing ploy! shame on u Marvel... FOR SHAME!
" Have Rogue and Sentry even been in the same panel? "exacly! Never seen them in a panel.
Psh, I'm sure Rogue's had sex with somebody. Any hormone driven teenager could find a way to do it given any obstacle. Why not just use an extra thick condom through a whole in a bedsheet? There. Problem solved.
I still think Jenkins original Sentry series is the best non-Spider-Man thing Marvel has ever done, but even I felt this was a little weird.
I mean, it sort of makes sense, but anything that makes you feel kind of awkward for reading it usually isn't a good thing (unless, of course, that's the intention). I don't know, it just seemed a little off. It doesn't really affect my opinion of either character, but yeh.... I don't think it was really necessary.
" Wow...I haven't read this issue yet, but this does seem REALLY cheap...Why would they feel the need to even add this in? Especially if they do not explain enough about when and why it happened. I honestly hope this is just swept under the run because this has no reason whatsoever to be a part of the MU. "GET OUT OF MY HEAD
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