Can current Rogue beat Ms Marvel

#1 Posted by time (4876 posts) - - Show Bio

Can current Rogue beat Ms Marvel?

If Rogue hasn't absorbed any powers going into the fight with Ms Marvel. Could she beat Ms Marvel ?

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#2 Edited by Dernman (14758 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

#3 Posted by Invisible_Witch (312 posts) - - Show Bio

Not at All.......

#4 Posted by Roguegirl24 (200 posts) - - Show Bio

no...but it wouldn't be a fair fight anyway.

#5 Posted by lykopis (10756 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course not.

#6 Posted by JohnnyWalker (821 posts) - - Show Bio

not even close.

#7 Posted by Crash_Recovery (850 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course. How powerful either character is never matters in a fight. All that matters is:

1. Whose book is it?

2. Who's writing it?

3. Who needs to win in order for the story to go in the most interesting direction?

#8 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't she do just that?

#9 Posted by time (4876 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg said:

Didn't she do just that?

Yeah, she put Ms Marvel into a coma before and she beat her in Avengers Vs X-Men event.

#10 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean, from what I remember of that fight, it made sense. If Carol had gone straight for the KO it would've been her fight, but she didn't and that gave Rogue the chance to bring things to equal footing.

#11 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

No way she could beat Carol.

#12 Posted by time (4876 posts) - - Show Bio

I copy this from Ms Marvel profile

Carol fought Rogue so long and hard that Rogue's ability to absorb powers and memories became permanent in this case, rather than temporary. Once Carol was entirely drained she fell into a catatonic state, while Rogue's mind was suddenly assaulted by Carol's personality and emotions competing with her own. Desperately hoping that killing Carol would silence the unwelcome presence inside her head, Rogue threw Carol's lifeless body off the Golden Gate Bridge.

Which has shown in the past that Rogue has beaten Ms Marvel before. All Rogue has to do is touch Ms Marvel and she gain the advantage.

#13 Posted by unicornpuncher (418 posts) - - Show Bio

If she absorbed Ms. Marvels powers then yes. If she didnt have any walking in and couldnt get her powers, then no.

#14 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. She just defeated her in AVX for example.

#15 Posted by Invisible_Witch (312 posts) - - Show Bio

In AvX its seems Carol wanted to talk to Rogue rather than fully kill her

#16 Posted by time (4876 posts) - - Show Bio

@unicornpuncher said:

If she absorbed Ms. Marvels powers then yes. If she didnt have any walking in and couldnt get her powers, then no.

I agree with @unicornpuncher, If Rogue absorbed Ms Marvel powers, I think she can beat Carol. Rogue also beaten Ms Marvel twice before

#17 Posted by Crimsonlord53 (1304 posts) - - Show Bio

The best part of her fight with carol is when she takes her gloves of and touches carol.

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#18 Posted by time (4876 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crimsonlord53 said:

The best part of her fight with carol is when she takes her gloves of and touches carol.

X-Men Legacy #269

Ms Marvel did hit her away, but she also lost to Rogue in that fight. Ms Marvel is strong, but Rogue can handle her in fight and she prove that before twice.

#19 Posted by poisonfleur (2968 posts) - - Show Bio

Quick Question. What issue was it where Rogue first drained Carol of her powers and put her into a coma?

#20 Posted by kiss_lamia (1247 posts) - - Show Bio

@poisonfleur said:

Quick Question. What issue was it where Rogue first drained Carol of her powers and put her into a coma?

Marvel Super-Hero's #11 1992

#21 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

In certain circumstances, yes. In most circumstances she wouldn't have a chance.

#22 Posted by lorex (949 posts) - - Show Bio

Starting without any powers well of course Captain Marvel, as she is now called would have the advantage, but Rogue has beaten her before. Also at Marvel any one can beat anyone else if it serves the storyline or an editorial agenda. If they can with a straight face say that Iron Man can defeat Magneto, even though when Magneto was one of the major villians in comics and no one person could take him down.

#23 Edited by time (4876 posts) - - Show Bio

@lorex said:

Starting without any powers well of course Captain Marvel, as she is now called would have the advantage, but Rogue has beaten her before. Also at Marvel any one can beat anyone else if it serves the storyline or an editorial agenda. If they can with a straight face say that Iron Man can defeat Magneto, even though when Magneto was one of the major villians in comics and no one person could take him down.

That was disgusting Magneto being beated by Iron Man. As if that can happen.

#24 Posted by Mystrogue (35 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know if her seventh sense is part of Ms Marvel's powers or not, but this could help a lot if she still has that power.

Also, 1 second of touch = 1 minute of stun for Ms Marvel.

This means that she only needs to sneak-touch Carol and she would win.

#25 Posted by Pyrogram (35143 posts) - - Show Bio

I think she could...

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