tim drake vs jason todd vs dick grayson vs damain wayne-.........
First off, I think Damian is a great Robin. While Tim was great in the role, it made sense for him to move on as he had nothing left to learn, while Damian has a LOT to learn.
On the Batman thing, I'll repeat what I said in the other threads. If Tim took on the cowl, he would be a very efficient and effective hero. Would he be Batman? No. Tim, in my opinion, isn't nearly dark enough to pull off being the Dark Knight. Dick barely scrapes by at being Batman in terms of personality. He's darker than Tim, definitely, but not as much as Bruce. The student shouldn't become the teacher, he should SURPASS the teacher. And Tim is well on his way to being better than Batman.
So when you say "a better Batman", it depends on what you mean. Neither really embody what Batman is, though Dick comes closest. In terms of being the better crimefighter, then yes, I think Tim would be better. Because as Red Robin, he already IS a better crimefighter. If he became Batman he'd just be exactly the same character with a new name and costume.
I agree on most fronts but Tim is actually a very Dark character, but he has chosen not to live in his darkness the way bruce did. Tim has lost alot during his crime fighting career, Friends, Family, Love, but he still smiles when he ruins a bad guys plans =] besides, Batman doesnt stand for darkness and he doesnt stand only for fear...the symbol is ment to strike fear into criminals, but he also stand for something lighter and greater, he Stands for justice. So i think Tim would be a better Batman, a different one...But a better one. That being said I dont think he should take up the mantle...he is better off with the freedom of his own mantle.
From Batman's perspective:
From Ra's al Ghul's perspective:
From Talia al Ghul's perspective:
From MY own opinion (Overall):
1. Tim - Smarts wins it here, even if it comes down to a hand-to-hand battle. Batman may be half fear, half mind/body. But Tim will eventually become the better detective whether corrupted or not.
2. Damian - He's the genetic combo of the best mankind has to physically offer. But with a weak frail juvenile mind, he will always have a weaker moral compass than that of Grayson or Drake. Before his death, he showed true potential in caring for his fellow man and family. Like Jason, he's violent enough to dictate a match to his way from his previous training.
3. Jason - This guy is Batman's code and fears personified pervertedly. His fighting with anger gives him the edge because he plays with that one less rule to abide by. Jason also had training from the All Caste to amp his fighting skills.
4. Dick - I personally think he's lame, in a good Superman way. Too goody two shoes of a hero. Him losing his parents is done in the same fashion as Bruce, but he was saved early on, leaving him without the darkness. He could probably beat all the above from his tenured experience.
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