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Uncanny Avengers #17 - Ragnarok Now Review

5

That was...certainly a development, wasn't it?

The Good

Rick Remender’s title of Ragnarok Now proves quite apropos in this particular issue. Though the participants may not be Fenris nor Nidhogg, we still do have a Thor and the fate of Earth hanging in the balance. Eimin blocks Thor’s use of Jarnbjorn, the axe that can kill even a Celestial just as readily as Grim Reaper blocks Wasp from destroying the Tachyon Dam and allowing Immortus’ Avengers a path to the past to assist. If this all sounds like a lot of garbled nonsense well...you probably should go back a few issues, because it actually all holds together remarkably well. Remender has contextualized and set up these strange, incredible concepts fastidiously over the last several issues, going all the way back to the end of the first arc. There is a brutal efficiency to how much of this story is told in this short amount of space and how quickly everything comes together and falls apart. This issue, though...this issue does something else. This issue makes it clear that this is a different KIND of book and that you should just forget whatever continuity you thought you knew. Will some of these events bleed into other stories? Yes, we’ve already seen evidence of that, but...the WHEN isn’t really important and getting hung up on that will rob you of one amazing read.

Steve McNiven is positively on fire. Often a hyper-detailed artist falters near the end of a run, and while not all the issues have been perfect, McNiven has pulled out all the stops on his pencils for this issue and the level of detail, as well as the number of extraordinary close-ups and some of the most fluid, kinetic action. McNiven’s greatest strength has always been his widescreen, bombastic action and this issue is no exception. Jay Leisten calcifies everything with his inks, bringing clarity and filling in even more of the details of McNiven’s pencils while Laura Martin’s colors absolutely shine, with help from Justin Ponsor, Matt Milla and Larry Molinar and, like the rest of the work, the colors are truly a sight to behold. Even the panels with minimal backgrounds have such incredible, tiny touches that make them absolutely gorgeous, but with an incredible continuity of tone and appearance despite the four colorists.

The Bad

So...something incredible happens in this book. Something massive and significant and...incredible really is the word. I’m not going to mention it because it’s not bad on its face, and whether or not it’s here to stay is immaterial, but in the immediate aftermath of it is one glaring error: Thor meets directly with Odin and doesn’t bat an eye despite the fact that we’re still in the era of the All-Mother and Asgardia. It’s extremely jarring to see him and not even have Thor acknowledge that it’s odd.

The Verdict

Forget continuity, forget the whys and whens and just imagine what the NEXT issue of this title is going to be. I have scarcely been more excited for a mainstream superhero book because before I didn’t know what was going to happen next, but I was sure it would all work out. Now I just don’t know what’s going to happen next.

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Edited by movieartman

@necrotic_lycanthrope said:

The cover looks a bit like a JRJR piece to be honest.

Apocalypse maybe. That design sucks. But the way Thor was drawn is certainly not on JRJR's level.

what the f__k are you talking about?, steve micniven makes jrjr's art look like the dreck it is

Edited by The Mast

There is simply no way this can be in continuity, but then it's kinda like the Astonishing X-Men of Avengers books.

Amazing, but clearly not in continuity, or at least set in such an unspecified time that is not the current Marvel Universe,

Edited by tximinoman

Just... wow.

Between this and Hawkeye 15 Marvel is killing it this week.

Edited by Doombert

So....anyone else seeing all the comments from every other Uncanny Avengers review?

Posted by HushoftheWind

@doombert: yeah dude, i was freaking out for a second trying to figure wth was going lol

Edited by lukehero

@the_mast: Yeah is this can't be the 616 Universe at all. Earth just got blown up & other titles are still going on. Either that or by the end of the serious some ultra powerful force is going to turn things back to normal.

Edited by Killemall

@owie said:

I missed this somehow, but I'm glad to hear it was good, I'll have to see if I can find it. It's a cool idea for a match-up, although I would think Thor would toast him.

If you are thinking this issue is about Thor vs Apocalypse, you are way off.

Its Thor and every hero on Earth vs Emin and Celestial Executioner (Exitar), who has come and judge the earth unworthy and is about to destroy the entire planet.

Posted by caladbolglight

This series was good, but it's slowly gotten more and more overdramatic. I mean, issue after issue of THE FATE OF THE WORLD IS IN THE BALANCE AND YOU WILL ALL DIE AND BLAH BLAH BLAH I mean come on, what is even happening. And it's so obviously not going to stick, that it feels really redundant too.

Posted by tigerkaya

Well this book is utter shit. I'm looking forward to it eventual cancellation. Now that Mighty Avengers is the true Marvel book I will be excitedly happy at this books eventual cancellation. Rick is a subpar writer who writes for shock with no substance and the fact that you fools are buying it just proves it. but regardless the book will die off soon and things will reset much like this team dynamics.

Edited by Doombert

@tigerkaya said:

Well this book is utter shit. I'm looking forward to it eventual cancellation. Now that Mighty Avengers is the true Marvel book I will be excitedly happy at this books eventual cancellation. Rick is a subpar writer who writes for shock with no substance and the fact that you fools are buying it just proves it. but regardless the book will die off soon and things will reset much like this team dynamics.

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Posted by New_World_Order

I don't see why this has to be an alternate universe just because it isn't into continuity with every other Marvel comic. It's one of those doomsday earth stories meaning we all know it's going to go back to how it was. It's just this story is used to express there views, I'm pretty sure it will go back to that exact point afterwards.

What I think is that Wolverine and Thor are going to be judged a lot by the Marvel Universe for this and I think that's what Remender wants as aftermath. people were already judging Logan for wrecking the time stream, now people are going to judge Thor. Yes I believe they may forget due to going back in time, but really what eaxctly was Wolverine judged for and adding on that Thor basically caused the planet to be destroyed, I guess you can say he will be judged more so. It will be interesting though, because when people judge Wolverine he just stands there and takes it, even though what he did was right in ways. Thor on the other hand will not take that and most likely will voice his opinion on the matter or simply put you on your place.

This was a good issue though I would say 4/5 to be honest and the Odin part was unusual. The way Odin didn't care that Thor's arm was burned off and such came off a bit odd. I would think he would heal him.

Posted by DylanOfEarth2

Uncanny Avengers is my favorite marvel book right now, And I am in love with this issue. We're in for a hell of a ride aren't we.

Posted by tigerkaya
Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee

@owie said:

I missed this somehow, but I'm glad to hear it was good, I'll have to see if I can find it. It's a cool idea for a match-up, although I would think Thor would toast him.

If you are thinking this issue is about Thor vs Apocalypse, you are way off.

Its Thor and every hero on Earth vs Emin and Celestial Executioner (Exitar), who has come and judge the earth unworthy and is about to destroy the entire planet.

You're replying to a very old comment that was made on a previous review. CV has another bug that is mixing comments from previous reviews into the news ones.

I don't see why this has to be an alternate universe just because it isn't into continuity with every other Marvel comic. It's one of those doomsday earth stories meaning we all know it's going to go back to how it was. It's just this story is used to express there views, I'm pretty sure it will go back to that exact point afterwards.

What I think is that Wolverine and Thor are going to be judged a lot by the Marvel Universe for this and I think that's what Remender wants as aftermath. people were already judging Logan for wrecking the time stream, now people are going to judge Thor. Yes I believe they may forget due to going back in time, but really what eaxctly was Wolverine judged for and adding on that Thor basically caused the planet to be destroyed, I guess you can say he will be judged more so. It will be interesting though, because when people judge Wolverine he just stands there and takes it, even though what he did was right in ways. Thor on the other hand will not take that and most likely will voice his opinion on the matter or simply put you on your place.

This was a good issue though I would say 4/5 to be honest and the Odin part was unusual. The way Odin didn't care that Thor's arm was burned off and such came off a bit odd. I would think he would heal him.

Thank you for being intelligent and realizing this is the most probable outcome of the story.

Edited by New_World_Order
Posted by ChillinVillain

@undeadpool Yo, I think this issue confirmed my theory that Thor killed Uriel by opening a portal to a star pushing/pinning him into/onto it.

Posted by spacemanspiff85

@arturocalakayvee:

I'm very much looking forward to seeing how everyone judges Logan compared to Cyclops, going forward. Yeah, Scott went off the deep end, but Logan's secrets led to the end of the planet.

Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee

@arturocalakayvee:

I'm very much looking forward to seeing how everyone judges Logan compared to Cyclops, going forward. Yeah, Scott went off the deep end, but Logan's secrets led to the end of the planet.

There won't be any repercussions, I bet. They'll solve this thing by going back in time and preventing it from happening or something so it technically would have never happened.

Posted by spacemanspiff85

@arturocalakayvee:

I can't really see Remender doing a story like this with no consequences at all. I think at the very least some characters will remember what happened.

Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee

@arturocalakayvee:

I can't really see Remender doing a story like this with no consequences at all. I think at the very least some characters will remember what happened.

Oh, yeah, definitely, they will remember it - but I'm saying Marvel wouldn't allow a story to have negative consequences for their glory boy Wolverine. He could kill the entire planet and it wouldn't be as negatively received as Scott accidentally killing Charles.

Edited by spacemanspiff85

@arturocalakayvee:

I really hope it doesn't turn out that way. Considering the direction they're taking him in his solo series, and with him leaving his school, negative consequences from this would fit right in.

Posted by Tiamut
Edited by danteart86

One word for you! KANG! And 2 more... Different Timelines!

Posted by The_Titan_Lord

Interesting.

Edited by Sammo21

I have a feeling this might be taking place in an alternate timeline or something and we just don't know it yet. Clearly the events take place after what happened in the Captain America's first arc...