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Superman/Wonder Woman #6 - Until The End Review

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Zod and Faora plan to take over the Earth and only Superman and Wonder Woman can hope to stop him.

*Couldn't help but dive into spoilers here, so don't scroll over the tabs if you don't want anything ruined!*

The Good

With issue six, writer Charles Soule brings the differences between Superman and Wonder Woman front and center. Don't worry, there's plenty of super-powered punches as well, but the real focus is to address the disparities between their personalities and how it'll play a role in their fight to come. These discussions don't bog down the pacing at all and are actually pretty concise. This isn't Clark and Diana talking for pages about how their feelings can impact their work or why they should or shouldn't be together. Instead, Soule quickly addresses these important topics and showcases how each one is viewing it. It's a brief yet effective way to keep the relationship engaging and give it a little bit of growth, too. Another thing I appreciate is how a subplot is generated from an incident you may have forgotten. It may seem like this book has gone from place to place just for mindless and fun action, but it's becoming clear Soule had a purpose for each of these encounter.

A common complaint I see about this title is that some fans believe it makes Wonder Woman look weak or needs Superman to help her. However, in this issue, Diana's actually the one with far more control of her emotions and she's the more pragmatic one in the relationship. As if that's still not enough, she legitimately wrecked Zod and Faora at the same time in the last issue. As if that wasn't enough, it was clear that, despite all of his power, Superman was the weak link in that fight. I'd say that compensates for being Doomsday's -- who's an absurdly powerful creature -- punching bag. I can see some saying the ending is yet another example of her appearing weak, but that's blatantly ignoring the fact that she simply isn't as durable as Superman is and it further illustrates just how good-hearted Superman is. I think reducing the act to simply being a "white knight" is missing the point. I'd be willing to wager he'd do that for any other hero that was stuck there with him and unlikely to survive the blast. He has the potential to survive that. Her? It's far more uncertain and if he can save her, why not? If you don't think the relationship should be a thing to begin with, that's fine and you're entitled to believe that. However, I hardly think she's being treated as a cliche damsel in distress here. Soule's shown she's not only a better combatant than Superman, but also more in check than he is reading what their relationship means.

Simply put: Tony S. Daniel for the win. Aside from a few relatively minor gripes, this issue is full of energy, particularly strong character work and wonderful attention to the surrounding environments. He delivers more than a handful of standout panels and the last page is likely to leave you in awe. Oh man, and that page dedicated purely to the intensity of each hit? Fantastic. Tomeu Morey's coloring is equally impressive. Everything from the soothing ocean to the lighting effects keep the panels exciting and pull you right into what's going down. Long story short, it's a very good looking book, people

The Bad

Without showing us even a little sample of how brutal round two was, It's a little tough to just accept the fact that Wonder Woman and Superman are in such poor condition that they can't even fly. We've seen them endure so much punishment and I get page space is limited, but the jump felt abrupt. Even just one display of the villains' new might would have been helpful.

Part of me can't shake the feeling that Wonder Woman went from taking both of the villains on in the last issue to barely being able to handle Faora in this one. I get the implication is to get hit enough so they can use their secret weapon, but if she can take out her target (which seems probable based on the last issue) and then team-up with Superman, odds are they could beat Zod on their own or even end up using the weapon as a last resort, right?

The Verdict

Look, if you're part of the crowd that's very vocal against this relationship, odds are steam will shoot from your ears with this chapter (although, to be honest, I'm not sure why you're still reading it?). However, if you've been enjoying this run -- which appears to be more than a fair share of you -- then you're sure to be incredibly entertained by this issue. Not only is there a visceral slugfest, but the core of this one revolves around the dynamic between Superman and Wonder Woman. Sure, the ending seems designed to make some people question how things could possibly move forward (despite this taking place in the past...), but it still works because of the emotional moment the scene delivers and it absolutely leaves me curious to see how this will impact their relationship in the upcoming issues.

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Posted by CheeseSticks

Nice, maybe now WW will stop being overrated.

Posted by Squalleon

The action is certaintly this book's weakness.
Soule's action scenes are inconsistent, there is no balance between the protagonists and Daniel's paneling is difficult to follow.

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Posted by SanoHibiki

Nice review, I’ll give a couple of words on my own about this issue...

... which was pretty awesome. I don’t know how Soule doing that, but each next issue of this title looks better to me that previous one. Must say I had a slight problem with this title, sometimes it was concentrated more on Clark’s side of story, sometimes – on Diana, but in this instance my fears were elevated – Soule knows how write team-work, he was just building plot up to this moment.

Apollo subtly (and then openly) powered Zod and Faora. Nice subplot. With brothers like that who needs enemies… Oh wait; he is already Di’s enemy. I hope now no one would complain about his and Strife’s characterization.

I like that Clark finally overcoming his protective streak. Man, this woman doesn’t need your protection!

Plenty of cameos and references to early DC’s works. Gefest looks a bit like Hellboy, Invisible Jet, nuclear explosion closing Phantom Zone is allegory to Superman 2 (where nuclear bomb opened Zone), and Clark’s condition in the end reminds to me how he looked in Dark Knight. Oh, and let’s not forget gender-reversed Star Wars quote ;)

Single complaint from me – Soule tends to portray fights in those “black figures” or simply skip them, but oh well. This title good enough as it is.

4.5/5.

Edited by justice teen

This is was by far my favorite comic issue. One thing I want to point out in the review, yes wonder woman solo the two kyrptonians last issue and yes she is having trouble with Faora this issue, but Apollo reveal that is his fault. With that being said he better find another god and start praying Clark is merciful for what he put Diana through. I really love the emotion in this issue it was pure and well place showing that their love is here to stay. The ending is what sold the book to me I cant even properly explain how good it was but it was just so beautifully epic, until the image with Clark holding Diana( I actually cried a little :(:: when i sat it). Over this just raise the bar for me and i'm now expecting every DC comic to be this good. Also I love how Zod and Faora aren't dead I cant wait for another confrontation

Posted by Hawkguy

I'd give this a 3.5/5. Wasn't a big fan of the art in this issue, some of it looked awkward and the action looked inconsistent and just... bad at times. However, the last couple pages were superb, and the last page screamed "Superman!"

Posted by manwithoutshame

The fight scenes in this issue were terrible. They just cut to a bunch of limbs flailing around. I prefer to actually see and comprehend what is happening.

Posted by k4tzm4n

The action is certaintly this book's weakness.

Soule's action scenes are inconsistent, there is no balance between the protagonists and Daniel's paneling is difficult to follow.

@hawkguy said:

I'd give this a 3.5/5. Wasn't a big fan of the art in this issue, some of it looked awkward and the action looked inconsistent and just... bad at times. However, the last couple pages were superb, and the last page screamed "Superman!"

The fight scenes in this issue were terrible. They just cut to a bunch of limbs flailing around. I prefer to actually see and comprehend what is happening.

Some of the action is what I was referring to with the minor gripes comment. A couple of the hits seemed to lack any kind of force or motion, but for me, the other qualities outweighed that.

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Posted by nonamexg18

A great thing about this series is the pacing. It strikes that balance of uncompressed "arc" structure and serialized/episodic format that many big superhero books never do. I also appreciate the grounded and progressive approach to the romance. Too often in genre fiction, a romance is done in this idealized "star-gazing soulmates" manner, or "bizzaro soap opera" and sometimes "quirky-yet-unhealthy relationSH*T". Many times one character, the love interest, is less a character than an object in the plot used to develop the primary protagonist of these stories. Charles Soule WISELY AVOIDS all of the aforementioned pratfalls in favor of a modern relationship dynamic - a mutual partnership based on trust, respect, independence and LOVE - it is also worth knowing that Soule portrays the relationship , it's trials and tribulations, the emotional high and lows, the whole dynamic with absolute sincerity, nuance, thoughtfulness and above all he treats it as if it were "real". It's unfortunate that previous creators never took such a thought-out approach to the Lois/Clark or the Steve/Diana relationships and I was ORIGINALLY against this plot/concept but leave it to DC, Soule and Daniel to make delicious lemonade out of sour-ass lemons: I'm hoping that this book stays around for a couple of years or so (with the same creative team) and that this relationship and concept gets mined for any and all possible storytelling gems before DC's inevitable reboot (probably next 5-10 years). As it stands, 'Superman/Wonder Woman" is not only one of the best mainstream superhero books being published, it's possibly one of the most insightful stories that explore the development and dynamics of being in romance/relationships outside of Brian K. Vaughn's masterpiece 'SAGA'. As of the 1st 6-issue arc: IT IS DAMN GOOD.

Posted by Outside_85

@k4tzm4n: I can see some saying the ending is yet another example of her appearing weak, but that's blatantly ignoring the fact that she simply isn't as durable as Superman is and it further illustrates just how good-hearted Superman is.

The only fact is that Wonder Woman writers aren't locked in an arms race with their predecessors or daydreaming their way back to the Silver Age.

Note: still think it sounds like utter stupidity that neither SM or WW had the power to get out of a metal box, but some measly explosion did.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@outside_85 said:

@k4tzm4n: I can see some saying the ending is yet another example of her appearing weak, but that's blatantly ignoring the fact that she simply isn't as durable as Superman is and it further illustrates just how good-hearted Superman is.

The only fact is that Wonder Woman writers aren't locked in an arms race with their predecessors or daydreaming their way back to the Silver Age.

Note: still think it sounds like utter stupidity that neither SM or WW had the power to get out of a metal box, but some measly explosion did.

You honestly believe Wonder Woman is more durable than Superman?

Metal box? Measly explosion? Are you talking about this issue, because if so -- and I don't mean to be rude -- it seems like you missed the point. They couldn't escape because the implication was they were too weak after their beatdown at the hands of an amped Faora and Zod. Additionally, the blast was an atomic explosion.

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Posted by CantDance93

So Apollo powered up Zod and Faora a little bit so they cold absorb energy faster? Ok that makes sense as to why they were strong as hell right away.

My only complaint is the continuity of this issue, the editorial note says this is before the current events in Wonder Woman, but I don't know how that is possible because it feels like there has been no breaks in Wonder Woman's series, like it's been one even after another, don't know how she finds the time to be with Superman during her series, but whatever 9/10 for me.

Sucks that Tony S. Daniel will be absent for the next issue :(

Posted by GrenadeFlow

I really liked this issue

Edited by Saint_Wildcard

Damn good issue! The reactions on Facebook are exactly how I feel.

Posted by CantDance93

It's kind cool to see War World again so quickly, It got thrown into the Phantom Zone in the Batman/Superman Annual last week and now it's already out, yay!

Posted by jdp180

I lost interest when at the bottom of one page it read "This story takes place before the events in the current Wonder Woman". I am still trying to refresh my memory of her book and I haven't even bought vol 3 yet. I'm sure this inter gender fight will have a nice ending though.

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Posted by HolySerpent

5/5 for me.

Edited by SNascimento

I'm sorry, but not giving this issue a 5 stars was a crime against humanity.

Posted by johnqestion

This is one instance I am baffled at this rating. This issue deserves 5 stars.

Posted by k4tzm4n

I'm sorry, but not giving this issue a 5 stars was a crime against humanity.

This is one instance I am baffled at this rating. This issue deserves 5 stars.

Yeah, screw that guy for not sharing your opinion on this book!

Oh, wait...

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Edited by Primebonnick

damn this issue was awesome. I do agree my one main gripe was the action scenes, but it was still a great issue. It also reminds me why i hate what Azz is doing in Wonder Woman at times since this takes place before the current story line, but the thing i can't place is where (if i had to guess it will be b4 the battle with first born when her penthouse got destroyed, still doesn't explain why clark hasn't met zola but whatever).

That ending so like superman and the invincibility of the cape is now refernced in the new 52 i love it. Sorry but the lois/clark relationship did not have scenes like this and i love it. Hope the series can continue shame tony won't be in the next issue.

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Posted by deaditegonzo

I really liked your review! Kudos.

Edited by Trav_Mac_

Story: 5/5

Art: 3/5 Some miner flaws

Characters: 5/5

Overall: 4.5/5

Can't wait to see what next!

Posted by CantDance93

@trav_mac_: The art was the best part XD what did you not like?

Edited by Outside_85

@k4tzm4n said:

You honestly believe Wonder Woman is more durable than Superman?

Metal box? Measly explosion? Are you talking about this issue, because if so -- and I don't mean to be rude -- it seems like you missed the point. They couldn't escape because the implication was they were too weak after their beatdown at the hands of an amped Faora and Zod. Additionally, the blast was an atomic explosion.

As durable, not more-so and I never implied otherwise.

Then let me, who hasn't actually read this issue, remind you who have;

  • Superman benched the planet for 5 days. Just moving that machine, requires more energy than that nuke could ever produce.
  • Diana, here in this book alone, carries a sword that shaves electrons off atoms, with a sword like that, a 6 year old could get out of there. With that, Diana could have carved Doomsday into pieces, but getting her arms busted was a better option according to some.
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@outside_85 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

You honestly believe Wonder Woman is more durable than Superman?

Metal box? Measly explosion? Are you talking about this issue, because if so -- and I don't mean to be rude -- it seems like you missed the point. They couldn't escape because the implication was they were too weak after their beatdown at the hands of an amped Faora and Zod. Additionally, the blast was an atomic explosion.

As durable, not more-so and I never implied otherwise.

Then let me, who hasn't actually read this issue, remind you who have;

  • Superman benched the planet for 5 days. Just moving that machine, requires more energy than that nuke could ever produce.
  • Diana, here in this book alone, carries a sword that shaves electrons off atoms, with a sword like that, a 6 year old could get out of there. With that, Diana could have carved Doomsday into pieces, but getting her arms busted was a better option according to some.

Overall, I agree that Diana, WHO IS NOT A BATTERY, should have been able to just chill for a bit and come back to her normal self pretty quickly. She also wouldnt become more and more akin to a normal human the more she got wore out. So, yeah, it maybe is a low showing for her, however I dont think it was mean spirited, I think it was based on two things: 1) In service to the plot 2) the writer probably didnt even consider it. It took me a lot of reflection just to realize that she shouldnt have responded to the beating the same as Supes.

The less solar energy Supes has stored, the more like a mortal man he becomes. A sun amped Kryptonian could easily run out all the gas. Read Our Worlds at War for example, he was basically a cosmic level being after a sundip.

But the underlined is literally nonsense. No, that would be very unlikely to help against Doomsday, at least traditionally.

Posted by SOG7dc

@outside_85:

I agree with you. I haven't read it yet either but a nuke should be like a light breeze to Supes and Wondy. Especially considering their previously displayed power levels.

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Posted by darkman61288

damn this issue was awesome. I do agree my one main gripe was the action scenes, but it was still a great issue. It also reminds me why i hate what Azz is doing in Wonder Woman at times since this takes place before the current story line, but the thing i can't place is where (if i had to guess it will be b4 the battle with first born when her penthouse got destroyed, still doesn't explain why clark hasn't met zola but whatever).

That ending so like superman and the invincibility of the cape is now refernced in the new 52 i love it. Sorry but the lois/clark relationship did have scenes like this and i love it. Hope the series can continue shame tony won't be in the next issue.

Are saying that there is a part of the Lois and Clark you actually liked? Or a typo.

Posted by Fastestmanalive

Agree with most of you guys. 4.5/5 for me. best book of the week. Actually probably my favorite comic out there now period. Just so good.

Only reason I give it a 4.5 is the art was a little off in some places. Love this series. Story and characterization are amazing. This book has so much heart.

Posted by Erik

I approve of this review.

Posted by Fallschirmjager

Liked it. Though had some issues.

Though everyone crying about Superheroes power is long getting annoying. Seriously people if you only read the comic because the hero is the strongest there is, you're doing it for the wrong reason.

WHO CARES?

Posted by SOG7dc

@fallschirmjager:

It's not the only reason I read them but it's certainly a big part of why. Everybody gets to have their own opinions. That part is important to me and there is nothing wrong with that

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Posted by Outside_85

But the underlined is literally nonsense. No, that would be very unlikely to help against Doomsday, at least traditionally.

Why? Has Doomsday dropped off the periodic table and become pure energy?

Edited by Saren

How was there "no time" to get the League? I mean, it's not like the League has a man who runs faster than light and a cyborg that can teleport anyone anywhere at will.

This series is fine as mindless punch-'em-up entertainment, but it's been lacking storywise since Day 1.

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Edited by UltimateSMfan

Good issue, good review! I agree completely :D

To those who think this is a low showing......How? Amped! Practically sundipped Zod and Faora beat the living sh*t out of supes and wondy,then put them in a reactor where supes would be completely sealed of from the sun thereby putting a halt on his normal speedy recovery and It's not like wonder woman heals instantaneously so that goes out the window,plus they were racing against time,they had to close the portal to the phantom zone in like 10 seconds, so im really happy with the way it all went down, I too think Supes is more than capable of handling an atomic explosion even at ground zero but he was literally thrashed and weakened greatly at the time soooo yea.... Dat last panel doh, Oh My God!! and with the indestructible cape covering wonder...Oh man that was just awesome and soo Superman!!!

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@deaditegonzo said:

But the underlined is literally nonsense. No, that would be very unlikely to help against Doomsday, at least traditionally.

Why? Has Doomsday dropped off the periodic table and become pure energy?

she has already hit DD with that sword, but even with it she couldn't even slown him down.


  • Superman benched the planet for 5 days. Just moving that machine, requires more energy than that nuke could ever produce.

Yes, a normal powered Superman could easily destroy that nuclear power plant but at this time he was so beaten up he couldn't even fly let alone escape from there.

Posted by Dernman

I'm trying hard to like this book but it's not helping me.

Edited by Outside_85

@zandalf: Odd, as I hear, Diana hit DD with the flat side of the sword.

Edited by Zandalf

@outside_85: it isn't true and that doesn't make any sense if you think about it. Has she taken her sword just to hit her foe with the flat side of her sword? naa. She couldn't hurt him even with it, or at least she has not hurt him enough to even slow him down.

Posted by Outside_85

@zandalf: You are right, by the angel she is holding it in and the pose it actually looks more like she uses the sword as nothing but a weight in her fist. Which makes sense since this isn't Geoff Johns 'kill first' Wonder Woman.

Posted by Erik

@k4tzm4n said:

You honestly believe Wonder Woman is more durable than Superman?

Metal box? Measly explosion? Are you talking about this issue, because if so -- and I don't mean to be rude -- it seems like you missed the point. They couldn't escape because the implication was they were too weak after their beatdown at the hands of an amped Faora and Zod. Additionally, the blast was an atomic explosion.

As durable, not more-so and I never implied otherwise.

Then let me, who hasn't actually read this issue, remind you who have;

  • Superman benched the planet for 5 days. Just moving that machine, requires more energy than that nuke could ever produce.
  • Diana, here in this book alone, carries a sword that shaves electrons off atoms, with a sword like that, a 6 year old could get out of there. With that, Diana could have carved Doomsday into pieces, but getting her arms busted was a better option according to some.

Neither one of those bullet points illustrate how Diana is as durable as Superman in the New 52. One is a strength feat and the other is a nice description of Diana's weaponry.

Edited by MoSsuperman

@saren: I guess you need to reread it because superman said that communications got destroyed.

Posted by Outside_85

@erik: I was pointing out the logic holes of this part of the story.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@outside_85 said:

@erik: I was pointing out the logic holes of this part of the story.

But that's completing ignoring the context. The entire scene is based around the premise that both of them have just enduring a savage and relentless beating by an amped version (boosted by Apollo himself) of Faora and Zod. They're in a significantly weakened state, unable to exert themselves, and then have a matter of seconds -- minutes at most -- before Zod brings an army through the phantom zone. Context is key.

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Edited by Saren

@saren: I guess you need to reread it because superman said that communications got destroyed.

He said communications were destroyed after Zod and Faora beat the crap out of them. Before that, they were capable of calling for help, they just chose not to because "there's no time".

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Posted by bladewolf

Loved the issue! I agreed with your sentiment about the part that felt abrupt, but page count being what it is I could deal with it

Posted by MoSsuperman

@saren: superman and wonder woman didn't know that Apollo would power up Zod and faora and until then they didn't need any help from the league.

Posted by Erik

@saren: Why do you hate what I love!?

Jk. I haven't touched a single issue but I was interested in doing it eventually. Then you happened.

Posted by Saren

@saren: superman and wonder woman didn't know that Apollo would power up Zod and faora and until then they didn't need any help from the league.

Because when confronted with a situation that you're not sure you can handle, where you don't know all the details about your opponent, and where you've already conceded that you need divine weapons to fight back, it is always better to ask for less help than to be sure you can win?

It seems we have firmly established that none of these people are Batman.

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