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Superior Spider-Man Team-Up #2 - Sibling Rivalry: Part 1 Review

5

Kaine’s in town, but he doesn’t know about the recent changes to Peter Parker’s demeanor, but there’s at least one old grudge that the Superior Spider-Man remembers.

The Good

Even before I knew exactly how deeply this would delve into Spider-Man’s history, I was excited just by the idea of it. Christopher Yost and Marco Checcetto (with Rachelle Rosenberg providing dark-yet-vibrant, understated-yet-explosive colors) writing and drawing the first meeting between the still newly minted Superior Spider-Man and the relative neophyte Scarlet Spider was an idea so great that I can’t believe Marvel had the patience to wait THIS long to unveil it. This was BEFORE I realized/remembered the history between Kaine and Doc Ock (it’s not pleasant...some snapping occurred...Octavius’ neck was involved), a history that Spider-Man certainly remembers but Kaine isn’t aware of affecting this current interaction. So what we wind up with is Doc Ock attacking Kaine with murderous intent, but Kaine being none the wiser. And when a crew of Jackal’s freakish spider-mutants make an appearance, it seems Ock may have the perfect cover to enact his vengeance...but there are still a few more twists left to delve into, some that stab at the very heart of Doctor Octavius’ dark past.

The dialog in this issue is absolutely pitch-perfect. I love Dan Slott’s work on Superior Spider-Man, but if he ever needed a vacation or a torch pass, Chris Yost should be the frontrunner (and is as far as I’m concerned). He so perfectly nails Doc Ock’s self-aggrandizing inner-monologue and arrogance, but even better is when he gets the subtle nuance of the good doctor trying to approximate Peter Parker’s mannerisms. Naturally, as Yost is writing Scarlet Spider, Kaine sounds as he always does: determined to do the right thing, even if he has to do it through clenched teeth and a harsh disposition. The book is mostly about these two, but the few lines that Jackal cackles are pitch-perfect as well, reminding the readers that Spider-Man definitely has two green-skinned, pointy eared villains he should be concerned with at all times.

Marco Checcheto has always been one of those artists I’ve enjoyed, but after his sublime run with Greg Rucka on The Punisher, he’s now an artist I look forward to. His linework is jagged and harsh, but never too visible, lending his characters a very palpable edge. His action moves smoothly from panel-to-panel and his characters approximate movement so well, you can fill in the blanks that the medium provides for yourself. Rachelle Rosenberg, as I mentioned earlier, provides absolutely pitch-perfect coloring for a book like this. It’s an interesting exercise in juxtaposition and that’s what Spider-Man has always been, but the colors have been flipped. Where before he was mostly light tinged with darkness, he’s now mostly dark but tinged with light and the colors evoke that beautifully.

The Bad

My only complaint is we don’t get more straight dialog between the two Spiders. Everything is spoken in the midst of a fight (either between each other, or Jackal’s mutants), so it leaves me wanting them to hash out more.

The Verdict

Absolutely amazing. This was a book that exactly and precisely lived up to the hype I had for it, and in fact surpassed it in many ways. Even without the shared past of Octavius and Kaine, this would’ve been an interesting read, but WITH that past? It’s suddenly catapulted into the stratosphere of interest for me since now the two of them have a shared past that only ONE of them knows about! And one of the best ways to generate suspense and interest is to let the audience in on something the characters are unaware of, which this book realizes and executes on perfectly.

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Posted by sparty-dbq

Okay, this is just getting ridiculous. Not even a friggin' clone of Spider-Man can put this s*** together? Even after Otto virtually stops pretending to be Peter altogether halfway through the fight? He stops just short of literally yelling "I AM DOCTOR OCTOPUS" right in Kaine's face and still... STILL no one can gather enough working brain cells to get past the seemingly impenetrable "Gee, Peter sure is acting strange" barrier?!

Edited by OtchiNiTenshi

Editorial Edict: Everyone in Marvel except for Captain Paranoid (Wolverine) is too stupid to realize Spidey may not be Peter anymore. But hey, Otto got away with thinking 'Quick! What would Parker do so I can keep these people from reading my mind' right in front of Rachel Grey, who has been demonstrated as hearing thoughts even without a deep-scan.

Yeah. I'm fairly certain that if Otto decided to start murdering Heroes instead of just killing villains, you'd have everyone else put it off as 'Oh. He's just going through a phase. He's frustrated, it's allright.'

Kinda want Miguel to go through time, grab Kaine, Ben, and Peter, go back to when Otto first had his accident and became Doc Ock, and snap his neck then. MAGIC.

Oh wait. That already happened, and somehow Ock remembers Scarlet is Kaine, despite different costume, different appearance, different location, slightly different attitude. Guess we're going with the "Otto doesn't have Peter's Memories until it's editorially convenient to do so because we can't plan a storyline." defense.

Edited by webhead

Yea that's something that bothers me big time. Ock erased Peter from his brain, and supposedly he was a bunch of memories that were put together.... how the hell does Ock still have Pete's memories if he ERASED THEM?!!!

Everyday I find a huge flaw with Dan Slutt's whole concept (No I didn't misspell by accident or hit the wrong key, I know what I typed). But At least we still have Scarlet Spider.

Here's my other question, I thought Scarlet Spider was Marvel's answer to having a darker Spider-Man. What, were people not satisfied?

Posted by Tiso

I agree with the whole, "No one can really figured out this isn't Peter?!" But, I am liking the change none the less, and hope they write themselves out of that HUGE plot hole.

Ock erased the rest of Peter out of his mind. With Peter gone, that would halt him from using Peter's memories, but he already had a big chunk of time to look at Peter's memories, thus making them Ock's own memories. Remember, Ock is or was.... I don't know now, a super genius/villain.

Posted by Mrgreenlantern

god bless the scarlet spider, the real true Superior Spider-man of the 616

Posted by Hawkguy

All the people complaining about the memories... Maybe the sweep wasn't complete? Maybe peters still in there fighting for it? Maybe its not just editorial convenience....

You people always find something to complain about lol

Edited by OtchiNiTenshi

@webhead: Every day I am more and more certain that Scarlet -was- meant as the darker/grittier (Read: Everything they are trying to sell as Superior), but that the reason this was done to Peter is to salt the earth on 'Spider-Man'. Get enough Peter Parker Spider-Man fans pissed/frustrated/drop out with bad writing so that when Fox releases Amazing's Sequels, they don't make back the money and Marvel can 're-aquire' the rights for movies and implement Spidey into MCU properly.

Posted by PunyParker

I WANT THIS!

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Posted by PunyParker

god bless the scarlet spider, the real true Superior Spider-man of the 616

Someone give this man a medal.

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Posted by Deranged Midget

Man... this and Scarlet Spider are EASILY the best titles of the week!

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Posted by The_Titan_Lord

I've been loving the current Spidey issue's.

Edited by HollowPrince65

As much as i love Superior Spider-man, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the people around him. Is Charlie really the only one who is able to solidly say "Yeaaah...This isn't Peter. It looks like Peter, sounds like Peter....but you aren't acting like Peter. Something is up."? Its starting to get at me.

Posted by sparty-dbq

@webhead:

Marvel pretty much already had THREE "Dark Spider-Men" when this Superior thing went down: Kaine, Flash, and Al Apaec from Dark Avengers.

Posted by Ando123

I really loved this issue Yost has a lot of talent.

Posted by Poncho

@webhead: I've looked at it as Peter's memories were a "book" that Oct read. Even though the book isn't there anymore, he can still remember reading it.

Edited by thenexusrebound

I wonder if in time Kaine will get it. All of a sudden Peter is acting like Kaine. Kaine beats himself constantly for being so brutal yet Peter is now just as bad. I look forward to that throw down.

Edited by skyjumpermike

@webhead said:

Yea that's something that bothers me big time. Ock erased Peter from his brain, and supposedly he was a bunch of memories that were put together.... how the hell does Ock still have Pete's memories if he ERASED THEM?!!!

Everyday I find a huge flaw with Dan Slutt's whole concept (No I didn't misspell by accident or hit the wrong key, I know what I typed). But At least we still have Scarlet Spider.

Here's my other question, I thought Scarlet Spider was Marvel's answer to having a darker Spider-Man. What, were people not satisfied?

good one...

Posted by pianoman220

@poncho: @skyjumpermike: MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! Doc Ock has been AROUND Peter enough to at least have a basic history of most of his friends and enemies! I mean, how much closer can you be to Peter than being one of his worst enemies AND almost marrying the person closest to him - his Aunt May?

Also, how could Oct truly forget the only man to ever succeed in KILLING him? This issue (SSTU # 2) brings out some great history!

Edited by lykopis

Taking this issue on its own merit, I did enjoy how things unfolded and while I can't escape the shadow of nonsensical acceptance by Peter's friends and family and co-workers - having the two characters together is a treat. The art is flawless as is the writing (as it pertains to this particular story) so I am looking forward to how things play out.

I do have to get caught up with Scarlet Spider -- a favourite character will be showing soon and under the pen of Yost, she shines.

Fair enough review. I would have liked more conversation between the two as well but like you pointed it, they are in the midst of a fight and that's not really going to happen - especially when one of them is trying to come up with a way to kill the other. :)

Just to add, I was kinda hoping Scarlett Spider would be able to pick up on something but considering it's the intro into the story, I can be patient. (Until I get my hands on Scarlet Spider's book where this continues).

Great ending too.

(@webhead: Really, dude? I get why you are unhappy with SpOck but that kind of senseless name calling just undermines your points. I am in the camp of the convenient "remembering" on the part of Otto but it could be argued his ability to retain the memories he had access to while Peter was still around could explain it. I'm not a fan of convenience either but considering this whole SpOck thing in it's entirety, it's hardly surprising.)

Posted by Mezmero

I am really digging this new series. I haven't been reading Scarlet Spider and this book makes him look like a total badass to the point that I might want to get into it. Unfortunately I don't really enjoy his fighting style the same way I didn't with Peter Parker. I don't doubt that Kaine is an interesting and cool character I'm just covered on the amount of Spider titles I'm currently following. Looks like I'm going to HAVE to pick up this week's issue of Scarlet to see the rest of this story so I guess they're roping me into it regardless. I'm so excited for more developments with Superior Team-Up.

Posted by mickeymayhew

Yost doesn't seem to capture the humour that Slott does in Superior though, where SpOck makes me laugh out loud every issue or so with something he says and does, and it balances out all his arrogant posturing; plus the art was too grainy

Posted by TheAcidSkull

Yost doesn't seem to capture the humour that Slott does in Superior though, where SpOck makes me laugh out loud every issue or so with something he says and does, and it balances out all his arrogant posturing; plus the art was too grainy

The Only humorous Thing about it is that the writing is F*cking terrible.

Posted by WWAJfan

3.0 for me, 5 is too generous

Posted by jphugo15

comicvine yet again, overrating an issue of baloney. this story arc was a mess and completely fails to deliver on the concept of these two meeting in every possible way. cool art i guess