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Superior Spider-Man #9 - Troubled Mind, Part Three: Gray Matters Review

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It's a battle of minds as Peter and Doc Ock face-off inside of Peter's mind!

Warning: There will be some spoilers within this review.

The Good

Doc Ock finds the Peter Parker brain pattern anomaly with his scanner and attempts to wipe Peter away for good. Inside Peter's brain, the two battle it out for supremacy.

This is quite the controversial issue, probably just as controversial as AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #700 where it's revealed Peter Parker and Doc Ock switched bodies. I will not spoil anything big, but this issue is a huge game changer for the series. On top of that, the decision writer Dan Slott makes in this issue with this character is an awesome way to go.

In the epic battle between Peter and Ock, I thought for sure I'd be cheering for Peter. He's Spider-Man, right? How could you not want to cheer for the good guy? Dan Slott has this magical ability to slowly make you root for the bad guy. There's this amazing turning point where Doc Ock realizes is not Dr Octopus, he's Superior Spider-Man now, and he has this conversation with Peter where he, in a weird way, proves that even though he's killing people, he's actually a superior version of Spider-Man. It comes to this stunning conclusion where I really feel for Peter and all he's gone through, but as the reader, I find myself siding with Doc Ock. I'm blown away with how Slott's writing changes my perception of Peter and Ock all in one issue.

Taking a breather from the craziness, for a moment, Ryan Stegman's cover here is amazing. Not only is it a great representation of the story within the issue, but I love how Spidey's brain is also the title of the book. What a cool concept.

Another quick thing I loved about this issue was seeing Doc Ock, in Peter's mind, in his old green costume with his terrible bowlcut again. I haven't been a fan of any of the redesigns of this character, so seeing this, for one last time, made the Spider-Fan in me happy.

Back to Ryan Stegman... His work is top notch. This is an insane issue. There's a ton of stuff going on, and art-wise, Stegman nailed it. There's so much going on here, and so much action taking place, and Stgman puts together a very clear-cut style that's easy to read and brilliant at telling the story within the book. By far, my favorite page here happens towards the end when a beaten Doc Ock realized who he truly is. It's three, pretty simple panels that flow so well, and I loved the use of the negative space and how Ock's face blends into it.

The Bad

My only real problem with the issue was that the back and forth battle, in the first half really didn't grab me. I didn't like the scenes with Peter and Ock saying to each other "I've got these guys backing me up!" It was a tad cheesy. However, it really picks up the pace and becomes really awesome around page 13.

The Verdict

I know there's going to be people freaking out because I'm not freaking out. Frankly, I'm sick of stagnant story lines. It's nice to see someone doing something risky. Tons of people freaked out during #700 and vowed never to read Spider-Man again, and then those people, for some reason, picked up SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN, stuck with it, and really ended up enjoying it. It's going to be the same thing here, but there's no reason to fret. Everything, at some point, will most likely all go back to normal, so let's enjoy this crazy ride while we can.

This was an awesome issue. It was better than I expected, after reading issue #8. I had a bit of a problem with the first half of the book coming off as a tad cheesy, but overall, this was such a great issue, and an amazing way to wrap up this first arc of this book. Slott does wonders with these characters and the dialogue here, especially during the final scenes, and Ryan Stegman's art is so pretty, and that cover is so awesome. This is an issue I could easily read multiple times because it's the perfect mixture of crazy and amazing.

Overall, I highly recommend this issue.

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Posted by sparty-dbq

I cannot believe so many people have been okay with this. I really cannot. An icon is being not only demolished, but in the most brazen, tasteless, insulting manner possible, and the majority of readers are just cool with it. Yet once the rumors popped up the the new Ninja Turtles were going to be aliens, everyone lost their f-ing minds. I just don't get it.

Posted by Lvenger

@akbogert said:

@leokearon: If the triumph of your character requires the destruction of another one's legacy, then yes, your opinion becomes irrelevant. Keep in mind that I said earlier that I think Peter just outright dying would have been a lot more palatable. I don't mind Ock getting the spotlight he deserves -- he is a cool character. But the fact that that spotlight requires literally killing Peter's legacy and making MJ a complete moron -- that's the thing that I take issue with, and if you're going to argue that those things are justified because Ock deserves to look good, then that's where your opinion becomes irrelevant to me.

As for people arguing that Ock is right, I think there are a lot of great points in here as to why that's a distorted view. How can he be the "better Spider-Man?" Better crime-fighter, maybe? Better hero? Not a chance, because he's stolen a life, killed people, is lying blatantly to everyone -- he has zero moral ground to stand on, and is therefore not only not the better hero, but not a hero at all. How do you define "Spider-Man?" Surely being a hero must be part of it? Surely being committed to good must be a part of it? When people say Otto is better at being Spider-Man, what they really should say is that he is better at diminishing crime while using spider-based powers. I've always thought there was more to Spider-Man than just that, but I guess I'm in the minority.

Edited by leokearon

@akbogert: Your not looking at the bigger picture here. Pete will come back in time for Amazing Spider-man 2. Everyone will learn that Peter's body was hijacked by Otto and he will be absolved of all crimes, just like Hal Jordan, the Scarlet Witch and Jean Grey. Pete's legacy therefore wouldn't be ruined and everyone moves on with their lives. Dan Slott hints his big reset button as he did with She-Hulk and Doc Ock reverts back to his evil ways with no memory of what happened. MJ being a moron is to do with Slott's writing of the character (even I hated that)

As a hero, Peter is clearly the better hero that Otto in all sense of the word. Otto is a hero in his own way, just a very, very flawed hero, remember Otto is not trying to be Spider-man, his trying to be what he thinks is a Superior Spider-man and he's looking at in in terms of things like crime rate and everything because he's a scientist and all he wants is quantifable proof.

Posted by MSchiwal

@kerrigan: Otto's body is presumably buried as he has a tombstone, however he may have been cremated.

The gold octobot was shone in this issue, Otto dissected it as it had a copy of Peter's brainwaves so he used that to locate where Parker's memories were in his brain. So the gold octobot was dismantled this issue... its possible that it still serves as a back up hard drive of Peter Parker... but I doubt Otto is that sloppy.

Posted by bookerman20

I agree with the rating. This was a good issue and I think this had to happen. It has been an interesting read. I thought the back and forth between Peter and Ock was kinda favored Ock. In the end, Peter convinced Ock to start being the hero. Wouldn't that be the ultimate win in this debate? Slot has done a great job present a darker Spider-Man. Keep riding the momentum. Peter will eventually be back, the guy never gives up.

Edited by djluongo

This was just the final nail in the coffin for me for Spider-Man. The only reason I was reading Superior was bc I was hopeful that peter would come back but now after this...... this time I really am done.

But I make this promise, if they fix everything and bring peter back and get rid of Otto, I will buy every issue that came b4 it

Edited by Teerack

I can't believe people are still buying this book. You're all idiots.

@leokearon said:

Hurray No more Ghost Peter, the worst part of Superior Spider-man.

I don't see what people are going ape over, Peter died in Amazing #700 and all Otto did was just remove Peter's memories from his mind. Peter is going to come back in time for Amazing Spider-man 2, count on it. Until then enjoy the great series. This entire thing reminds me of Ben Reilly

Does it really remind you of Ben Reilly? Because I remember Ben pretty well, and I can tell you this if everyone just "enjoyed the great series" back then Ben would have still been Spider-man at least up till 700. Marvel only reverted it back to Peter, because people actually stopped buying the book.

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Posted by akbogert

@darkwingdan: That's basically the point I was driving towards in my most recent status (not that anyone cares about status, but anyway). Complaining about something you are actively paying to keep alive is rather contradictory.

Of course, when I complain about things I'm not buying, I get people telling me if I'm not buying it I have no right to complain. Seems rather ridiculous, when the complaint is that Marvel is ruining something you wanted to be buying.

Anyhow I think there are a lot of people who have complained about this series and this issue who are not buying the series anymore, and their complaints are explanations of why.

@akbogert: Your not looking at the bigger picture here. Pete will come back in time for Amazing Spider-man 2. Everyone will learn that Peter's body was hijacked by Otto and he will be absolved of all crimes, just like Hal Jordan, the Scarlet Witch and Jean Grey. Pete's legacy therefore wouldn't be ruined and everyone moves on with their lives. Dan Slott hints his big reset button as he did with She-Hulk and Doc Ock reverts back to his evil ways with no memory of what happened. MJ being a moron is to do with Slott's writing of the character (even I hated that)

As a hero, Peter is clearly the better hero that Otto in all sense of the word. Otto is a hero in his own way, just a very, very flawed hero, remember Otto is not trying to be Spider-man, his trying to be what he thinks is a Superior Spider-man and he's looking at in in terms of things like crime rate and everything because he's a scientist and all he wants is quantifable proof.

I understand why Otto thinks he's the better hero. What I don't understand is why readers agree with him. And I also don't understand -- forget that, I don't accept -- that Peter would agree with him. That is what makes this particular issue so offensive.

As for the inevitable return, suffice to say I would rather people not do terrible things at all than do terrible things and apologize for them later. The fact that they'll undo or "fix" it doesn't exonerate them for having broken it on purpose.

Posted by millennium

@darkwingdan: i agree with you on this ive seen and heard people make up reasons to justify why they buy something that they dont like the three that ive heard are "im a completion-est so i half to have it no matter how bad it is" , " i support the character and not the writer" , and " im loyal to the character so im sticking with it" i just dont know why its so hard for some people to just say im done and be done with it

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@mschiwal said:

@kerrigan:

Otto's body is presumably buried as he has a tombstone, however he may have been cremated.

The gold octobot was shone in this issue, Otto dissected it as it had a copy of Peter's brainwaves so he used that to locate where Parker's memories were in his brain. So the gold octobot was dismantled this issue... its possible that it still serves as a back up hard drive of Peter Parker... but I doubt Otto is that sloppy.

Ah, of course it was, don't know how I missed that: and Ock gets his robot to delete it.

Still, something could happen with Ock's actual physical brain, wherever it may be (comics have quite a history of fake burials). Might turn out that the ghost Pete we've been seeing really is just a reflection of memories, and the real one is stuck somewhere else.

Posted by JamesKM716

I don't see what people are going ape over, Peter died in Amazing #700 and all Otto did was just remove Peter's memories from his mind. Peter is going to come back in time for Amazing Spider-man 2, count on it. Until then enjoy the great series.

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Edited by jesusdisciple001

Oh a good(favorite by d way) character being given PIS treatment? Hope sales keep dropping as they have been doing contrary 2 wat ppl r thinking

Posted by jesusdisciple001

Oh a good(favorite by d way) character being given PIS treatment? Hope sales keep dropping as they have been doing contrary 2 wat ppl r thinking

Posted by Dark_Guyver

Maybe Sabretooth can take over Wolverines next, or Joker take over Batmans. Or better yet how about Mandrin take over Tony Starks. I'm still saying it, body swapping is such a lazy plot device. But people seem to like it for some reason. Hopefully other writers don't take ideas from Slott.

Posted by H_MAN81

some writer needs to bring spider-man back to before the civil war fiasco, the changes with his powers were cool and interesting until they erased it all in the whole "one more day" thing

Edited by SmashBrawler

Eueayeuhnn... I don't know. It was... yeah, don't really know what to say, at least not yet.

Posted by Master_Thief

So basically

Peter with no memory is going to wonder aimlessly through ock/peters mind until he finds clues to who he is...... then he becomes spiderman again

Edited by MikeStark

Now I know why they call the book Superior Spider-Man! Oc sure is more superior than Pete! From what I read. This book is interesting, yet... I'll still pass. However, is it bad that I think Otto should remain as Spider-Man? When Peter finally takes control. He should have learned from Ock's influence & be similar to Ock's Spider-Man. That's my 2 cents anyway.

Posted by MadeinBangladesh

Loved the last issue. I bet this will be yet again awesome!

Edited by CrimsonAlchemist

@akbogert: Have you even been reading any of these issues Spock has saved more lives in this little run of his more than Peter ever has. Sure he uses alot of underhanded tactics that don't seem "heroic" but he he sure is a more efficient spider man. I guess you just like the classic goody too shoes spidey we're use to seeing.

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I guess you just like the classic goody too shoes spidey we're use to seeing.

I have no qualms admitting that I prefer the Spider-Man who has existed for over 50 years to the one introduced in his stead less than five months ago.

Posted by jonny126

I honestly have a hard time seeing why people are sooooo adverse to this. Speaking as a long-time Spider-Man fan (The reason I'm on my way to become a photo-journalist), I am pretty stoked with this story we've been getting. This issue in particular.

People are bad-mouthing it saying that this destroys the legacy of Peter Parker, I don't buy that. Peter and Ock fighting brought things to light, as of right now, yes Ock is the Superior Spider-Man, that doesn't make him a "good" Spider-Man. He's dealing with problems that Peter never could because he had morals, he had lines he wouldn't cross. Ock doesn't have that problem, the tearing down of Peter at the end just showed this. When Ock brings up the little girl and the surgery, people are reading it as Peter was being selfish, he was being careful. Ock's doing some good things, but that could easily change, with the power he has now he could do some real damage. So no Peter didn't want Ock to get the mind-device, and be discovered, but not so that he wouldn't be erased, it was so he would still be around if Ock ever got out of control.

Peter's not being made out to be a bad guy, I don't get the sense that Slott is questioning his being heroic, he's just saying that Doc Ock doesn't have those bindings keeping him down. He's not concerned with the idea of being a "True-Hero," he's concerned with logistics. He's a better Spidey because of it, but not a "good" Spider-Man.

Posted by Mrgreenlantern

The part where Otto proves to be the Superior Spider-man Killed me inside but tbh i don't really see peter making that decision with those motives behind it

Posted by InnerVenom123

@akbogert said:

@crimsonalchemist said:

I guess you just like the classic goody too shoes spidey we're use to seeing.

I have no qualms admitting that I prefer the Spider-Man who has existed for over 50 years to the one introduced in his stead less than five months ago.

Posted by ILLO_29

@darkwingdan: I'm sure that some people continue to buy the title to stick out what they are not enjoying to be there when it gets better for them. However other do it because if they stopped buying the title that means they could move on something else. However some people like complain so much that they have to keep buying so they can keep up to date on compiling about it.

Edited by Agent_Prince

This. It is the worst Spider-Man book since One More Day. A waste of great art, totally.

Posted by greenlucario

@agent_prince: Well said, and simply put, couldn't agree more. Although I also agree with the longer critiques of what's wrong here. But hey I'm used to marvel hating Spider-Man by now, I mean they've been on a roll since OMD with a small break for Slott's run prior to Dying Wish.

Edited by cerial442

I read this review to see what the big hype was. I don't buy this book, but I did buy issue one. From what I've seen in other books where Spock shows up there is nothing for him to stand out for me. Another dark hero, we have tons of those. Oh well. I'll come back when Peter returns.

If you don't like the book or the character, then why spend $8 a month on the title? If you want your collection to be complete, then wait until Peter comes back. You'll be able to find back issues for a couple of bucks. You don't have to read something you hate. You can use that $8 and try other books out, maybe find something else you like. Black Bat looks cool, it's also $4.

Personally I don't like the fact that Slott made Peter out to be selfish (maybe not haven't read the issue). I think Slott did a great job on Spider-Island and Ends of the Earth, but that's it. The Lizard story was meh, and a inferior tale compared to something like SHED. Alpha was lame, and then the book just dragged until Dying Wish. Way too much filler.

But a question, do you think this storyline has enough legs to go another 25 issues? That would put it in line with Amazing Spider-Man 2. Then again, no guarantee of anything. Marvel killed Thor in the comics right when the Thor movie was coming out. I know a lot of people love it (that's fine), but I'm seeing a lot of people say they are starting to get tired of this Spock storyline.

Posted by sho3s22

this issue had me on the edge of my seat and the last page where Spider-Man says "And..I...Am...Free" could either be Doc Ock or Peter. Crazy.

Posted by sparty-dbq

Pete will be back by the time of Amazing Spider-man 2, because Marvel love their movies.

That is such a cheap cop-out. It doesn't change the fact that this shouldn't have happened in the first place. Say I broke both your legs with a baseball bat. After a lengthy hospital stay, multiple surgeries, and months of physical therapy, a year later you're fully able to walk again like you could before. Does that make it okay that I broke your legs?

Edited by InnerVenom123

@leokearon said:

Pete will be back by the time of Amazing Spider-man 2, because Marvel love their movies.

That is such a cheap cop-out. It doesn't change the fact that this shouldn't have happened in the first place. Say I broke both your legs with a baseball bat. After a lengthy hospital stay, multiple surgeries, and months of physical therapy, a year later you're fully able to walk again like you could before. Does that make it okay that I broke your legs?

Good thing this is a comic book and not a hilarious analogy.

Edited by Revendawn

Ok so I'm going to try and be rational about something that people are really enjoying being irrational about. That typically goes over really well on the internet and in forums, so here we go.

First off I'm not going to tell you what you like and don't like. If you are convinced that this was a bad story, I've got nothing for you. Traditionally when talking about quality of story, the first question is "Did it make you feel something?", but I get it, you hate it, that's fine.

What bugs me and the real reason I'm posting I guess; is not because of people who say they don't like the book. Again that's fine. I am surprised you are still reading it, but whatever. The people that bother me are the people taking the stance of "what is this story teaching us?" or "Super Hero stories are supposed to be about the good guys winning" or any other variation of that idea.

I respect people who review comics, because it's hard to do. You are essentially reviewing chapters in a potentially ongoing novel. Now the reason the people saying the things I mentioned above bother me is because they are essentially on chapter 9 of this book, and they have made up their minds on what the purpose of the story is.

It's a bad example, but it is essentially like watching (or reading) Jurassic Park, going just far enough to get to a dinosaur, and then flipping out because the movie (or book) supports playing god. I will agree if you stop right there it might seem that way, but there is an arc to the story. It's hard with comics because there is typically a month or two weeks between parts. I get that this is a less instant gratification medium, but why not see how the story plays out?

Sorry for the long quasi-rant and again if you just hate something, great drop it. I'm loving it. I consider myself a huge Spider-Man fan so don't speak for me when you are ranting. This is the most interested I've been in the character since Ultimate Spider-Man brought me back into comics. I don't fault people for being passionate I've had my moments too. I quit shortly after Brand New Day, I hated that stuff, but I came back and I'm going into this stuff with an open enough mind to want to see where it goes. I think if you are able to do the same it might be worth a try to at least see how you like it.

Posted by akbogert

...they are essentially on chapter 9 of this book, and they have made up their minds on what the purpose of the story is.

It's more like reading chapter 9 of the latest book in a series that's been going on for many years, and seeing the lead protagonist of the series acknowledge he's a failure to the main antagonist before said antagonist finishes him off and then takes over the protagonist's life without telling anyone.

Actually, that's not even an analogy.

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@akbogert said:

@revendawn said:

...they are essentially on chapter 9 of this book, and they have made up their minds on what the purpose of the story is.

It's more like reading chapter 9 of the latest book in a series that's been going on for many years, and seeing the lead protagonist of the series acknowledge he's a failure to the main antagonist before said antagonist finishes him off and then takes over the protagonist's life without telling anyone.

Actually, that's not even an analogy.

It is a lot like that. Although there is a level of interpretation on when the main protagonist actually died. Ultimately it doesn't really matter though. Like I said if that's something you can't get behind then by all means don't. Brand New Day seriously made me walk away from comics until I think Spider-Island. I totally understand someone not digging a story they are reading.

However acting like you know the ending (I'm not saying you specifically just, you know, people) and what we should "learn" or "take away" from the story at this point is a bit pre-mature. I'd love to take a poll of everyone posting here. Pro, Anti, or somewhere in between and see what everyone thinks will be the ending.

Otto Redeemed?

Otto Defeated (because he's evil)?

Peter gone for good?

Ben Reilly wakes up in a cold sweat and it was all just a dream?

I would guess that there would at least be a decent mix between 1 and 2 and there is a chance it'd be none of those. So if nobody knows, why is everyone acting like they know?

Posted by akbogert

@revendawn: It's not really a matter of knowing what will happen. It's a matter of saying what should or shouldn't be able to happen.
We were shown Peter's memories being killed. We were then shown Peter himself being eradicated from his body's own brain. There is nothing left to bring back, so if they do bring him back, they'll pretty much have to rely on PIS. It will seem stupid. People won't care because they'll be glad to see him back, but it will still seem stupid. That's not immaturity or arrogance. That's just the result of showing someone die physically AND mentally -- if you bring them back, you have to jump through ridiculous hoops.

Anyhow, it doesn't matter how this story gets "resolved" because it still happened. There is still an official scene in which Peter Parker says that killing is the way to be a better hero. Getting angry at that does not require knowing how the story concludes.

Posted by Ben3000

I enjoyed this issue as well. I agree with the Verdict you wrote. I feel the exact same way. I'm really looking forward to the next issue of Superior Spider-Man.

Posted by Teerack

After reading this thread I'm starting to understand why this book won't be getting canceled anytime soon. Modern Spider-Man fans actually have no Idea what Spider-Man has been about for the past 50 years. Slott doesn't seem to get it either so the fact Superior is sticking actually makes a ton of sense.....

Posted by Revendawn

@akbogert said:

@revendawn:

It's not really a matter of knowing what will happen. It's a matter of saying what should or shouldn't be able to happen.

We were shown Peter's memories being killed. We were then shown Peter himself being eradicated from his body's own brain

. There is nothing left to bring back, so if they do bring him back, they'll pretty much have to rely on PIS. It will seem stupid. People won't care because they'll be glad to see him back, but it will still seem stupid. That's not immaturity or arrogance. That's just the result of showing someone die physically AND mentally -- if you bring them back, you have to jump through ridiculous hoops.

Anyhow, it doesn't matter how this story gets "resolved" because it still happened. There is still an official scene in which Peter Parker says that killing is the way to be a better hero. Getting angry at that does not require knowing how the story concludes.

Well here I think it does come down to a level of interpretation that maybe matters. First off there is plenty of reason to wonder if this was actually Peter or just his memories. Did we see yet another defeat of Peter Parker or did we see Otto triumph over the memories he allowed to remain when he took over? You might not think that even matters, but to me it makes a big deal of difference.

I do want to say that I never saw a scene where Peter Parker admits that killing is the way to be a better hero. I'm not even going to spoiler tag that, it's not in there. You do see Otto's reasoning that he did the right thing, Peter never says "you're right". In fact he only seems to falter when it is pointed out that he took action against Otto that could have prevented him saving a little girl, so that he wasn't discovered. Even then he still sits there rationalizing it, debating on if he was right or wrong.

Again I'm not trying to tell you how you felt about a thing. That's a silly argument, you felt what you felt. I just point that out because I'm not totally sure how you came to that conclusion, except that if you are trying to make this sound like the worst thing ever, that's a really good way to say it, even if it's not totally accurate.

I know we're on two different wave lengths. You are not going to convince me it was bad, I can't convince you it was good. The character has been around for a long time. He's done some crazy stuff that I'm sure has made people question if they can ever love him again. He did all sorts of crazy things in the Clone Saga. He's made a deal with the devil. He's brought about people's deaths.

I used to say that Peter Parker was the most unflappable character in terms of values. His Uncle Ben moment was so massive that we may see heroes rise and fall from the morally righteous path, but never Spider-Man. Now we are seeing a story where a villain is exploring that territory and not only that potentially Peter is too. I'm glad that we are seeing these dilemmas, but I understand why some people might not be thrilled.

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@teerack said:

After reading this thread I'm starting to understand why this book won't be getting canceled anytime soon. Modern Spider-Man fans actually have no Idea what Spider-Man has been about for the past 50 years. Slott doesn't seem to get it either so the fact Superior is sticking actually makes a ton of sense.....

I'm not trying to question the validity of this or anything like that, but I am curious. What do you think Spider-Man has been about for the past 50 years?

I'll tell you my interpretation and then you can call me crazy for it. To me Spider-Man has been about that little phrase you never stop hearing. Heck it was even in this week's issue of All New X-Men and Spider-Man isn't even in it! "With great power, comes great responsibility." Hasn't that always been the theme?

Right now, to me, Superior Spider-Man is the story of a man with the exact same power, the exact same responsibility, and what he does with it. So far we've seen Otto abuse it and we've seen him occasionally use it for good. We've yet to see where this lesson goes. The lesson could be that power corrupts and show that Peter Parker is truly far more remarkable than anyone (except the fans) knew, because he's the only one to manage it right.

The lesson could be Otto learning what that responsibility means. He didn't have an Uncle Ben. One of Spider-Man's greatest villains may die knowing exactly what a hero Peter Parker is. Personally I think this story ends with Otto willingly bringing Peter back because he knows that's what the world needs. What greater knowledge of power and responsibility is there than knowing you have to give it up because it's the right thing to do?

Or the point of this entire thing could just be to blow up Peter's life again. If power and responsibility is the core theme. "Peter Parker has problems" is the foundation of that. He's always been the hero that has the hardest time balancing his normal life and super-hero life. Recently though he had the girl, the job, general respect, he was an Avenger, family, friends, and very few problems. Otto's run as Spidey may exist as simply a way to take that all away so we can root for him to put it all back together.

Personally these are all themes I associate with Spider-Man. I'm not 50 years old. I haven't been reading since this thing started. He was my first superhero comic though, he's been my favorite, for good, and for bad ever since. So I guess maybe I don't have the best grasp on his theme or maybe I'm not a "real fan", but I'm reading Superior Spider-Man the moment I get it each week it comes out and I'm really liking it. So I guess I am whatever that makes me.

...probably a bad person.

Posted by stetson12

I like that ghost Peter is gone. Ghost Peter being gone puts the series one step closer to the return of Peter Parker.

Posted by GrumpyBear74

Both camps here have great arguments. I am enjoying this story for the moment, but I do feel long term Peter has to be back. This issue just felt like a crucible to forge Peter into a "Superior" spider man later on when he does come back somehow.

Posted by wisesonAC

love it or hate it it was ballsy gotta respect that. and i loved it!

Posted by Teerack

@revendawn: I'm sorry you wrote such a big post, because I don't care about Spider-Man enough anymore to want to read it or respond to it and get into a big discussion.

Posted by Mezmero

This review is accurate. I couldn't help but roll my eyes in the first half of the book. When the pace picked up in the latter half is what got me invested again. Watching Amazing get schooled by Superior was smartly satisfying. I've had enough of ghost Peter and now he'll have to wait in comic book limbo like he should have in the first place. The only thing I'm worried about is how can Otto remain superior without at least some of Parker's memories. Will he still retain stuff like the secret web formula? It also makes it more likely for his cover to be blown. Looking forward to more of this series.

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