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Superior Spider-Man #13 - No Escape Part Three: The Slayers & The Slain Review

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We've seen "Superior" Spider-Man do lots of things. It turns out there's still more he's willing to do to accomplish his goals.

The Good

Otto Octavius continues his tenure as "Spider-Man." We're seeing many levels of extremes in this latest story. Being at the Raft to ensure the execution of Alistair Smythe would happen without a hitch. He was wrong. Smythe managed to push Octavius' preparations to the limit. We practically get a full scale war between the two. There will be casualties and we will see more of how far Octavius will go in this role.

It's more than evident that this isn't the Spider-Man we used to know. It's not supposed to be. That adds a big level of the unknown. We don't know how far Octavius is willing to go and it makes a frantic and fascinating story. (And yes, deep down I still feel assured Peter will eventually return).

Camuncoli's art is superb. There's a lot of action flying around and many characters present. You'll want to make sure you pause during the fast-paced story to be able to take it all in and appreciate it.

It's a blast following along with Slott's story. He is still throwing curveballs our way. The surprises keep coming and you just have no idea what's going to happen next.

The Bad

It's easy to get into the story but you still have that lingering feeling that this shouldn't be happening. That's not a knock against the story. Perhaps it's the nature of the story, doing what it's supposed to be doing, that creates the feeling of uneasiness in the pit of your stomach. Octavius is taking "Spider-Man" further and further away. With what he sets up for himself at the end, while it is interesting, it's hard to tell what it will do the story we've been enjoying.

The events here feel a little as if they get wrapped up too quickly. It's likely better this way rather than it fill up another issue. It just felt as if the tables turned too quickly and easily.

The Verdict

Is everyone over the fact that this isn't the Spider-Man they knew before? Dan Slott continues to charge up the direction he's taking the character. We still have that deep sense of the unknown since this is essentially a different character that we're used to. Being able to overlook the past is vital to enjoying this science experiment of a story. You can't help but sit back in wonder over the extremes that Octavius is willing to take his role as Spider-Man. Action, suspense and surprises. These are great things to have in a comic. Dan Slott never ceases to amaze me.

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Posted by dwhamz

I agreed that it wrapped up a little quickly but its ok cause I cant wait for the next arc. Seriously that ending is kinda crazy, its like the moment you think you have Doc figured out BAM

Posted by spinningbirdcake

I thought this was one of my favorite arcs of Superior since the start of it. I can honestly say the feeling that this shouldn't be happening has gone away and I'm just enjoying the story now. Peter will be back, but until then I'm enjoying seeing Ock wipe the floor with all of his villains.

Edited by BattheMan008

Is this a good jumping on point? Or should I wait for the next issue?

Edited by Kerrigan

I'he enjoyed SSM since the first issue: ASM hadn't found its feet since Brand New Day, and needed a shakeup this big. That said, I've thought the book's started to drag just a little, not because of a lack of plot but because of Otto. Efficient, ruthless, fundamentally villainous Spidey is fun for a while, but lacks staying power. It's getting just a tad boring. Think I'm ready for the Pete resurrection arc, but I suspect Marvel are going to give SSM at least a year.

Posted by kilomac29

When SSM started I read issue 1 and kind of hated it but decided to give it another go after issue 5. Man, what a good choice that was, I am completely hooked. The art has been so amazing and Slott's plotting has left me guessing at every turn. Also really like what he's doing with Curt Connors.

Edited by BR_Havoc

Is this a good jumping on point? Or should I wait for the next issue?

This is an end of an arc so I would wait till next issue.

Edited by Revendawn

I was talking with a friend today and we both have really enjoyed the ride that is Superior Spider-Man so far. I think this series is building to something though. It's feeling less and less like are getting just new Spider-Man stories and instead are getting what feels more like a TV season. I'm still all in, but I think things can turn in this book if we don't hit that pay off soon. Based on solicits we already know we'll see a fight with Hobgoblin, Scarlet Spider, Venom, Spider-Man 2099, and it would be crazy to think there isn't some kind of penultimate showdown coming with Green Goblin.

I'm looking forward to all of these, but again this feels like building, not just side stories. I'm not saying it needs to culminate with the return of the real Peter Parker necessarily (although it'd be nice), but at some point we need the payoff. I guess what I'm saying is I hope the success that this book has enjoyed will not cause the story to lose steam and falter for it.

I've said on these forums before and I'll repeat it I think Superior Spider-Man exists for two reasons. The first is to tell what will ultimately be an epic final showdown between Peter and Ock, or more likely a final redemption tale of Doc Ock that sees him die heroically and inspire a returned Peter Parker. Secondly I think this story exists to give Peter Parker a "soft reset". Brand New Day was jarring and in my opinion really terrible. This is a nice way to reintroduce the character to a world that feels appropriately Spider-Man. Essentially he will have to re-build everything Ock has destroyed. The city will fear and hate him, he's on thin ice with the Avengers, he's made his enemies even more adamant about killing him, his job at Horizon is at the breaking point, he's severed his relationships. Peter Parker has problems. It has been his long standing trait, I feel like this story is going to bring that back in a big bad way.

Edited by Bloxxeh

This is my favorite issue so far. I thought the art and Writing were both AMAZING! I'm pretty sure Peter will be back as Spidey around the time of Amazing Spiderman 2.

Posted by akbogert

I've come to realize that I don't have a problem with SSM as a concept or as a book. What I object to is the incompetence of the entire supporting cast. Folks speak frequently of how Peter will have to rebuild his life when he comes back but that only works if people never find out that he wasn't really Peter all this time -- and the suggestion that people like MJ have gone so long, and may continue to go, not recognizing that this murderous, womanizing, jerk that came out of nowhere is, in fact, a different person... that's what makes the book hard for me to take.

Posted by stetson12

great read! Superior Spider-man is the most addicting comic book out right now

Posted by DH69

last half of the book just had me on my ass laughing, spOck haters be damned i'm loving this book, oh god almost turned blue laughing at spider island two

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Posted by tjx_penn

I hope parker never comes back. I really love the stories in this comic. He's securing the legacy of greatness that cable spoke of in Avengers: Sanction.

Edited by frogdog

So SpOck kills another villain, doesn't get any repercussions for his reckless behviaour, blackmails the mayor in order to get fund for a private army.

This is basically Spider-man for philistines.

Posted by akbogert

@skyjumpermike: Perhaps I should have used a different word (though his treatment of/thoughts about MJ in the first arc were pretty much that).

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@akbogert said:

I've come to realize that I don't have a problem with SSM as a concept or as a book. What I object to is the incompetence of the entire supporting cast. Folks speak frequently of how Peter will have to rebuild his life when he comes back but that only works if people never find out that he wasn't really Peter all this time -- and the suggestion that people like MJ have gone so long, and may continue to go, not recognizing that this murderous, womanizing, jerk that came out of nowhere is, in fact, a different person... that's what makes the book hard for me to take.

EVERYTHING sucks about this book, the cast, the stories, and most Importantly the main character

Posted by SOG7dc

This story is ok but for me A's someone who just started reading comics it'd be nice if I could actually read about Peter instead of a villain who won and keeps winning

Posted by feargalr

This book just continues to get better and better! Spider-Man with minions! I can't wait! :D

Posted by frogdog

@akbogert said:

I've come to realize that I don't have a problem with SSM as a concept or as a book. What I object to is the incompetence of the entire supporting cast. Folks speak frequently of how Peter will have to rebuild his life when he comes back but that only works if people never find out that he wasn't really Peter all this time -- and the suggestion that people like MJ have gone so long, and may continue to go, not recognizing that this murderous, womanizing, jerk that came out of nowhere is, in fact, a different person... that's what makes the book hard for me to take.

EVERYTHING sucks about this book, the cast, the stories, and most Importantly the main character

The superior spider-man defense force will not take kindly to those words

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@frogdog said:

@theacidskull said:

@akbogert said:

I've come to realize that I don't have a problem with SSM as a concept or as a book. What I object to is the incompetence of the entire supporting cast. Folks speak frequently of how Peter will have to rebuild his life when he comes back but that only works if people never find out that he wasn't really Peter all this time -- and the suggestion that people like MJ have gone so long, and may continue to go, not recognizing that this murderous, womanizing, jerk that came out of nowhere is, in fact, a different person... that's what makes the book hard for me to take.

EVERYTHING sucks about this book, the cast, the stories, and most Importantly the main character

The superior spider-man defense force will not take kindly to those words

i can't UNDERSTAND why any spider-man fan would like this

Posted by Sifighter

I have to hand it to SPock, while he's not the nicest hero around he certainly gets the job done. Though I can't wait to see how The Avengers react to Spiderman's minions and his Spider-Island II. I can't wait for next issue.

Edited by frogdog

@frogdog said:

@theacidskull said:

@akbogert said:

I've come to realize that I don't have a problem with SSM as a concept or as a book. What I object to is the incompetence of the entire supporting cast. Folks speak frequently of how Peter will have to rebuild his life when he comes back but that only works if people never find out that he wasn't really Peter all this time -- and the suggestion that people like MJ have gone so long, and may continue to go, not recognizing that this murderous, womanizing, jerk that came out of nowhere is, in fact, a different person... that's what makes the book hard for me to take.

EVERYTHING sucks about this book, the cast, the stories, and most Importantly the main character

The superior spider-man defense force will not take kindly to those words

i can't UNDERSTAND why any spider-man fan would like this

That's assuming they were fans of spider-man to begin with :P

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@frogdog said:

@theacidskull said:

@frogdog said:

@theacidskull said:

@akbogert said:

I've come to realize that I don't have a problem with SSM as a concept or as a book. What I object to is the incompetence of the entire supporting cast. Folks speak frequently of how Peter will have to rebuild his life when he comes back but that only works if people never find out that he wasn't really Peter all this time -- and the suggestion that people like MJ have gone so long, and may continue to go, not recognizing that this murderous, womanizing, jerk that came out of nowhere is, in fact, a different person... that's what makes the book hard for me to take.

EVERYTHING sucks about this book, the cast, the stories, and most Importantly the main character

The superior spider-man defense force will not take kindly to those words

i can't UNDERSTAND why any spider-man fan would like this

That's assuming they were fans of spider-man to begin with :P

exactly, the only people who could possibly like spider-man are the people who didn't like him before, and even considering that it still sucks.

Posted by danhimself

@frogdog said:

@theacidskull said:

@frogdog said:

@theacidskull said:

@akbogert said:

I've come to realize that I don't have a problem with SSM as a concept or as a book. What I object to is the incompetence of the entire supporting cast. Folks speak frequently of how Peter will have to rebuild his life when he comes back but that only works if people never find out that he wasn't really Peter all this time -- and the suggestion that people like MJ have gone so long, and may continue to go, not recognizing that this murderous, womanizing, jerk that came out of nowhere is, in fact, a different person... that's what makes the book hard for me to take.

EVERYTHING sucks about this book, the cast, the stories, and most Importantly the main character

The superior spider-man defense force will not take kindly to those words

i can't UNDERSTAND why any spider-man fan would like this

That's assuming they were fans of spider-man to begin with :P

exactly, the only people who could possibly like spider-man are the people who didn't like him before, and even considering that it still sucks.

I like Superior and Peter has been one of my favorite characters since I started reading comics

just because you don't like something doesn't mean that everyone else has to hate it as well

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@danhimself: If you Like It, thats fine, but it's Bad writing, and i don't understand how you can tolerate it.

Posted by danhimself

@danhimself: If you Like It, thats fine, but it's Bad writing, and i don't understand how you can tolerate it.

there are some bad parts to it but they're easily overlooked.....I felt the same way about Man of Steel as you feel about this..I said my piece and walked away...I don't need to go into every MoS thread and tell everyone how horrible it is

Edited by Trodorne

My only beef with the series is that, Otto is not doing anything to keep a low profile. he is getting carried away with being a hero that he will just end up going back to being a villain. I really wish I could see more moments of him learning a lesson like he did with cardiac that sometimes you need to have heart in a job like this.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull said:

@danhimself: If you Like It, thats fine, but it's Bad writing, and i don't understand how you can tolerate it.

there are some bad parts to it but they're easily overlooked.....I felt the same way about Man of Steel as you feel about this..I said my piece and walked away...I don't need to go into every MoS thread and tell everyone how horrible it is

I don't do the same either. I comment SOMETIMES, and a Movie is different, while this is the mainstream continuity , and i find it hard to like a series that shows of a murderer as a better hero than the actually hero himself.

Posted by frogdog

I like how user reviews for superior spider-man give more insight to the issue than the staff.

Posted by danhimself

@danhimself said:

@theacidskull said:

@danhimself: If you Like It, thats fine, but it's Bad writing, and i don't understand how you can tolerate it.

there are some bad parts to it but they're easily overlooked.....I felt the same way about Man of Steel as you feel about this..I said my piece and walked away...I don't need to go into every MoS thread and tell everyone how horrible it is

I don't do the same either. I comment SOMETIMES, and a Movie is different, while this is the mainstream continuity , and i find it hard to like a series that shows of a murderer as a better hero than the actually hero himself.

I apologize...you may not but a lot of the users do...I think that's subjective....I don't think he's a better hero than Peter at all...I think that right now it may appear that he's getting better results than Peter but I also believe that it's all going to blow up in his face....I think what really draws me to the series is that I know that Peter is going to come back eventually and only really see this as an extended arc...plus i like to see how Ock interacts with Peter's friends....I'm also excited to see the Superior/Scarlet crossover and the Superior/2099 crossover

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull said:

@danhimself said:

@theacidskull said:

@danhimself: If you Like It, thats fine, but it's Bad writing, and i don't understand how you can tolerate it.

there are some bad parts to it but they're easily overlooked.....I felt the same way about Man of Steel as you feel about this..I said my piece and walked away...I don't need to go into every MoS thread and tell everyone how horrible it is

I don't do the same either. I comment SOMETIMES, and a Movie is different, while this is the mainstream continuity , and i find it hard to like a series that shows of a murderer as a better hero than the actually hero himself.

I apologize...you may not but a lot of the users do...I think that's subjective....I don't think he's a better hero than Peter at all...I think that right now it may appear that he's getting better results than Peter but I also believe that it's all going to blow up in his face....I think what really draws me to the series is that I know that Peter is going to come back eventually and only really see this as an extended arc...plus i like to see how Ock interacts with Peter's friends....I'm also excited to see the Superior/Scarlet crossover and the Superior/2099 crossover

well i am happy for you man :), i am glad you enjoy the book.

for me , i prefer scarlet spider :D

Posted by kid Apollo

MY FRIENDS, WORRY NOT!

otto wont be Spider-Man for much longer. with the release of Amazing Spiderman 2 they wont for a second let Otto stay as spidey. Pete will be back within 8 months. i guarantee it!

Posted by UncannyOutsiders

@theacidskull: While I respect your opinion, I find it difficult to do when all of your text is written in bold.

Posted by HollowPrince65

I've always loved Spider-man from the comics to the TV show and even the Movies (minus 3 *shudders*). Theres nothing "Bad" about the writing. Just because you don't like the way the story is turning out, doesn't mean its a bad book. I may not have liked some movies and how they turned out, but they weren't bad movies. If you don't like it, don't buy it and don't let it bother you.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull: While I respect your opinion, I find it difficult to do when all of your text is written in bold.

UGHHHH not this again :P

Edited by Wolverine08
Posted by TheAcidSkull
Posted by Ando123

Otto Octavius Rules¡ long life to the SUperior SPiderman¡

Posted by Wolverine08

@theacidskull:

It gives the impression that you have anger problems! Lmao!

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull:

It gives the impression that you have anger problems! Lmao!

well...yes, but don\t get why people don't like it so much.

Posted by Wolverine08

@theacidskull:

It's just... jarring at first, but it gets normal after a while.

Posted by Arkhamc1tizen

actually enjoying this series.

Edited by Owie


I've said on these forums before and I'll repeat it I think Superior Spider-Man exists for two reasons. The first is to tell what will ultimately be an epic final showdown between Peter and Ock, or more likely a final redemption tale of Doc Ock that sees him die heroically and inspire a returned Peter Parker. Secondly I think this story exists to give Peter Parker a "soft reset". Brand New Day was jarring and in my opinion really terrible. This is a nice way to reintroduce the character to a world that feels appropriately Spider-Man. Essentially he will have to re-build everything Ock has destroyed. The city will fear and hate him, he's on thin ice with the Avengers, he's made his enemies even more adamant about killing him, his job at Horizon is at the breaking point, he's severed his relationships. Peter Parker has problems. It has been his long standing trait, I feel like this story is going to bring that back in a big bad way.

I agree with this, I think it will eventually accomplish what Brand New Day did badly.

That said, while I have been enjoying this, the fun is kind of wearing off for me. This Spider-Slayer arc seemed kind of random and thrown in awkwardly after the interesting build-up with the new Green Goblin. I hope we see more of Otto's new girlfriend, she's kind of the series saving grace.

Posted by Mrgreenlantern

hey Marvel i enjoyed the ride so far but it boggles the mind why they would push a more ruthless version of spiderman onto us when we already have THE SCARLET SPIDER!!!! above the title says it all...
All of the power , None of the responsibility!!!! why sabotage another book taking eyes off a fairly new product only to move the same concept over to one of the more popular books around?? mind boggling...

I wonder if Scarlet Spider sales dipped or took a rise after a few months of SSM on shelves



Posted by wolverine1610

This issue was ok, i like how Alistair tried to steal Spider-man's identity the exact same way Otto did although i find it hard to believe that Otto was prepared for that sort of thing i mean that is a bit obscure, i guess the mask doubles as protection from that and telepaths like magneto's helmet but w/e. i did feel that the ending to Alistair was a bit rushed. And the ending Spider-man getting his own base and naming it Spider-Island II makes me feel like they're trying to make him into a fusion of Spider-man and Batman with some old tendency of old Otto in the case of hiring spider themed henchmen. I can't wait to see how spider-man sorts through his new life in the eventual switch back

Posted by MadeinBangladesh

I'm enjoying a spiderman book unlike when Peter used to be Spiderman.

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