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Superior Spider-Man #11 - No Escape Part One: A Lock For Every Key Review

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Spider-Man heads to the Raft to witness the Spider-Slayer's execution. Everything should go EXACTLY according to plan, right?

The Good

The Spider-Slayer's execution is set to happen on the Raft. Obviously, things don't go as planned and SSM has to take on Smythe one more time, but Smythe has a few tricks up his sleeve.

Not only has Ock been trying to become a better Spider-Man, he's actually trying to become a better Peter Parker. Parker is now working on his doctorate, and his professor is actually Octavius' old classmate. It's a brief scene, but it really adds to the fact that Otto has taken control of all aspects of Peter's life.

We're at a point where the real Peter Parker is almost out of our minds, and we've come to (at least you should if you're still reading/loving this book) a point where the focus is just on Otto bettering himself as Spidey. I love this book. I might even say I love this book more than AMAZING SPIDER-MAN because it's familiar yet so different. While Dan Slott plotted this issue, Christos Gage wrote the script, and while it's not huge, you can tell the difference. It's a bit more serious, in tone, and the comedic aspect of it is gone. I'll take either version. They're both incredibly talented writers.

Incredibly solid art from the team of Giuseppe Camuncoli (pencils), John Dell (inks), and Edgar Delgado (colors). These guys are consistent and fantastic. Each individual stands out, but none of them overshadow each other. It's a great fusion of the three.

The Bad

It's been well established that Superior Spider-Man truly is the superior Spider-Man, but for me, with this issue, that's the problem. He's too good at being Spider-Man, to a point where he's 5 steps ahead of the guys he's fighting. What I really like about super-hero books, in general, is that back and forth game of cat and mouse where we're not sure if the hero will come out of this unscathed, even though in the back of our minds, we know everything will be ok. However, maybe that's what I like about this book. That it's so different from the rest of the books on Marvel's shelves.

Myself and staff writer Gregg Katzman are very upset with the lack of Cardiac in this issue.

The Verdict

SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN is still awesome. I'm loving this book a lot more now that Peter is out of the picture. Sure, that's blasphemous to some people, but why not sit back and enjoy the ride? Otto continues to show that he truly is superior in this series, and while the comedic elements have been dampened here, the book is still an incredibly fun read. On the down side, I miss the back and forth between Spidey and the rogues. Since SSM is a better Spider-Man, he's always a few steps ahead, so we don't get the old "cat and mouse" game. Also, where's Cardiac? I miss him.

Overall, this was a great issue and I highly recommend it.

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Posted by Barkley

call when Peter Parker comes back.....meanwhile im reading DC comics at least Batman is bruce wayne and Superman is Clark kent

Posted by czechoslovakia

I still really hate that it's not Peter. I'd hoped that SSM would consist of PETER trying to prove he's the superior spider-man.

Edited by DoctorFluxx

I rather enjoy this version of Spiderman. Maybe its because I have been bored with the character of Peter Parker for quite some time, and this concept has kept things fresh. I'm not beholden to the same-ol same-ol.

Edited by Hawkguy

Every review someone complains its not peter parker, or like

@barkley said:

call when Peter Parker comes back.....meanwhile im reading DC comics at least Batman is bruce wayne and Superman is Clark kent

Just don't read it, i don't know what else to say, you're generating revenue for this book or just wasting time. You're clearly drawn to it if you find a need to comment every other week.

I'm excited for what's to come, future solicitations have shown awesome covers.

Posted by VenomousDragon

superior needs a "Venom" someone who makes him squirm, physically dominates him, pushes him to the limit.

Posted by XImpossibruX

So when is Superior Spiderman going to end and Peter can come back? Cause this is getting ridiculous.

Posted by DJ1107

@hawkguy: Trust me I am so sick of that reason of why people hate the book. It's been 11 issues people The guy you hated since OMD is worm food & will be back in a year or so.

Edited by frogdog

Just hurry up and finish this gimmick already, #9 was one the worst spider-man stories in recent years

Posted by frogdog

@dj1107 said:

@hawkguy: Trust me I am so sick of that reason of why people hate the book. It's been 11 issues people The guy you hated since OMD is worm food & will be back in a year or so.

And none of them were good.

Edited by Michael_Moran

I really love this series...its fresh and intriguing

Posted by Jacobin_Wisdom

@frogdog: Only reason why none of them was good for you was due to the fact that your hung up on that fact that Parker is not in control of Spiderman.

Edited by stetson12

I feel like its okay for SpOck to be so far ahead of his villains in this particular issue because he was once an inmate in that prison. I love that there are more hints at Parker's return in this issue reflected in how SpOck treats people and how he handles situations.

Posted by joshmightbe

@jacobin_wisdom: Also the fact that all you fans of SSM are praising someone for murdering a hero, that annoys us.

Edited by Fantasgasmic

Mat, Ock is working on Peter's "doctorate" not his "doctrine." Just in case you feel like fixing it later.

Posted by Hawkguy

@frogdog: then read scarlet, venom or 600 issues of peter parker. This will end, if you don't like it, stop reading it.

What's drawing you to this if you hate it so much? Slotts doing a damn good job if he can still have haters buy this issue after issue. Keep an open mind and you'll like this. The writing is fantastic, the art is excellent. If the concept disagrees with you, save your $3.99 for another book, preferably hawkeye.

Edited by frogdog

@jacobin_wisdom said:

@frogdog: Only reason why none of them was good for you was due to the fact that your hung up on that fact that Parker is not in control of Spiderman.

If peter was in control, this story wouldn't exist period. Also ock is the living definition of identity theft, why would I praise a scumbag like him?

Posted by MadeinBangladesh

@hawkguy said:

Every review someone complains its not peter parker, or like

@barkley said:

call when Peter Parker comes back.....meanwhile im reading DC comics at least Batman is bruce wayne and Superman is Clark kent

Just don't read it, i don't know what else to say, you're generating revenue for this book or just wasting time. You're clearly drawn to it if you find a need to comment every other week.

I'm excited for what's to come, future solicitations have shown awesome covers.

I know right!!! I was actually getting tired and bored with Petey as spiderman to be honest. Doc Ock as Spiderman has been refreshing and interesting I guess not everyone is keen to big changes. Can't blame them.

Posted by Mangakid1995

In hind sight I love the idea of them switching up Spider-Man. In recent years with all the movies and so many spider comics I was getting a little tired of Peter as we knew him, something really profound needed to happen to make Peter Parker relevant again, and since lord knows Aunt May isn't going anywhere and since there are no wedding bells on the horizon, essentially killing Peter Parker and replacing him with his quote unquote Joker was a stroke of genius. The only thing Otto really needs in my opinion is a Venom or a Carnage, ever since he became Spider-Man Otto hasn't really faced any real challenges at least not physically. I want someone to break him so that he sees that this Spidey thing isn't as easy as he thinks it is.

Posted by 8008S

Frankly? Not every positive thing about this series is badass Ock being a superior Spider-Man. Not every negative thing about it is fanboys not liking changes either.

Edited by frogdog

@hawkguy said:

@frogdog: then read scarlet, venom or 600 issues of peter parker. This will end, if you don't like it, stop reading it.

What's drawing you to this if you hate it so much? Slotts doing a damn good job if he can still have haters buy this issue after issue. Keep an open mind and you'll like this. The writing is fantastic, the art is excellent. If the concept disagrees with you, save your $3.99 for another book, preferably hawkeye.

Scarlet Spider & Venom are better books, but doesn't this is ok. If this was Batman or Superman, there would have been more outrage at this bad concept.

Thankfully leaked copies of the issues save me money from actually buying it, and all I read so far is sloppily shock value with a gimmick spider-man, most of the story boils down to ock beating up villians near death, while being a douchebag to parker's friends.

Posted by stetson12

I feel like this issue is the halfway mark for Peter's return.

Edited by DJ1107

@8008s: smartest thing I heard someone say about this whole thing

@mangakid1995: well he's got the goblin to deal with that right there is going to be enough challenge.

Posted by frogdog

If most of you plebs got bored of peter parker being spider-man then:

1) How did you like him in the first place

2) Do you think this story would be accpetable with any other hero?

Posted by HollowPrince65

A great issue for the new arch. I’m not a huge fan of Camunocli’s art as I think he draws Peter on the fat side sometimes *shrug* but the story is A-MAZING! Its great to see Ock face his demons in a big way.

I miss Peter and he's still the reason I pick this up every two weeks or so. I know Dan Slott said that Peter Parker is dead and blah blah blah, but we know how that goes. Eventually Peter will have to come back....I mean come on, he is Marvel's biggest character.

Edited by Owie

I'm still enjoying this. But I was expecting more of the Green Goblin, not this completely different opponent. Hopefully Spider Slayer can provide a real challenge, because I agree that the one weak point in this comic is that things are too easy for Ock. But I expect that's the point, and some time soon he's getting a comeuppance.

Edited by dizzybone011

@frogdog: Scarlet Spider & Venom are better books, but doesn't this is ok. If this was Batman or Superman, there would have been more outrage at this bad concept.

Dick Grayson was Batman for a while Tim Drake was Batman as well. In the future Terry McGinnis was Batman...were you crying about that too?

Edited by Hawkguy

@frogdog: People love Miles Morales. Bruce Wayne was not always Batman. Robins have switched multiple times. And wait, you're knocking a book for changing the pace? Its only been 6 months of this book, and we all know peter will be back. And uh... Peter can get boring after a while, the non stop quibbling. If you read a batman book, the character is written as such a badass, he constantly has lines and actions that make you say "fuck yeah". With peter there were a lot of, "oh peter, so silly" moments. Plus, I like that SpOck brings a darker mood to the character once in a while. I understand you're voicing your opinion, my issue lies with the constant complaints on every review and preview

Posted by frogdog

@frogdog: Dick Grayson was Batman for a while Tim Drake was Batman as well. In the future Terry McGinnis was Batman...were you crying about that too?

Did Dick, Tim and Terry steal bruce's body & life in order to be Batman? No they didn't

Poor attempt at a comparison

Posted by Kurolegacy

@8008s said:

Frankly? Not every positive thing about this series is badass Ock being a superior Spider-Man. Not every negative thing about it is fanboys not liking changes either.

Exactly. For example, I'm past the fact that Peter's not around and I still can't enjoy this series. I get so bored of issue in and out having Ock talk about how superior he is and constantly looking down on just about everyone around him. The irony isn't lost to me considering it's his ego talking, but he's just so boring to listen to for a solo title.

Posted by Kid_Nacho

What's funny is I'm yet to hear a legitimate, balanced argument as to why Superior Spider-Man is bad. It's fanboys just repeating "It's not Peter Parker" and that's it. And even then, they're not saying Doc Ock makes a terrible Spider-Man. If it's not your cup of tea then fine, but the repetitive "I want Peter back" posts are getting incredibly old.

Edited by cc1738

@frogdog: Dude, just go away. You're just going to irritate people. We don't need a troll on every single review. If you don't like it fine, but don't argue with anyone that doesn't share your opinion.

It's kinda pathetic how everyone freaks out how they don't like when a writer decides take a creative risk and change a series, but then those same people freak out when the stories feel repetitive.

Posted by Jacobin_Wisdom

@joshmightbe: He's just a comic character. He's not real, besides People aren't either wicked or noble. They're like chef's salads, with good things and bad things chopped and mixed together in a vinaigrette of confusion and conflict. I like the comic cause it's a welcome change, and put's Parker in a whole new perspective.

Posted by joshmightbe

There is a huge difference between a character taking on a mantle and a villain murdering a guy then taking over his life because he was too much of a puss to face his own mortality then parading around announcing how awesome he is for pulling off said murder.

Posted by joshmightbe

@jacobin_wisdom: I know he's not real I'm just saying I will never support a story with a moral of Murder makes you superior.

Edited by GraniteSoldier

While I've enjoyed the SSM series thus far, I've gotten the impression he is not superior. Up until recently he's stood on the knowledge and memories Peter earned with experience against some lesser Spidey rogues (Boomerang, Screwball, etc.). He's also crossed (in my mind at least) some very non-heroic lines; such as executing a prisoner (Massacre had surrendered) and brutalizing criminals in the street to discourage lines. That's like saying cops would be more effective if they could drag you out of your car and beat you on the side of the road to discourage speeding. And let's see how he handles some Spidey A-Listers (give us Green Goblin!) without Peter's memories. But I suppose that's a perspective thing.

I do agree SSM has been a good read regardless, and while I am jaded because it's not Peter, his palpable absence will make his return that much better for me. For now I'm enjoying the ride, and waiting and hoping for Ock to have good run-ins with both Kaine the Scarlet Spider and Venom. Slott has been doing great with this book and I hope it continues to be so.

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Edited by frogdog

@hawkguy said:

@frogdog: People love Miles Morales. Bruce Wayne was not always Batman. Robins have switched multiple times. And wait, you're knocking a book for changing the pace? Its only been 6 months of this book, and we all know peter will be back. And uh... Peter can get boring after a while, the non stop quibbling. If you read a batman book, the character is written as such a badass, he constantly has lines and actions that make you say "fuck yeah". With peter there were a lot of, "oh peter, so silly" moments. Plus, I like that SpOck brings a darker mood to the character once in a while. I understand you're voicing your opinion, my issue lies with the constant complaints on every review and preview

People liked miles because he didn't steal parker life to attain his role nor is he running around saying that he better than peter parker. Who is still batman at the atm? Dick, no, Jean Paul-Valley, no it's Bruce Wayne. Parker has been spider-man for over 50 years, comparing to a side-kick changes near every decade hardly make a vaild point. The change of pace has been terrible,with Scarlet Spider & Venom around having another anti-hero spider-man is redundant. If can't understand why peter quips then you already told me why don't understand spider-man. If the book didn't exist, there would be nothing to talk about.

Posted by frogdog

@cc1738 said:

@frogdog: Dude, just go away. You're just going to irritate people. We don't need a troll on every single review. If you don't like it fine, but don't argue with anyone that doesn't share your opinion.

It's kinda pathetic how everyone freaks out how they don't like when a writer decides take a creative risk and change a series, but then those same people freak out when the stories feel repetitive.

Ladies and Gentleman, being honest about how you don't like a series is trolling.

Remember that time when the punisher was Frankenstein and everybody pointed out how stupid it was, and the defense was that "it was creative". Years have passed, and it's still regarded as a stupid idea.

Posted by Hawkguy

@frogdog: yes, bruce wayne IS batman, and peter parker IS spider-man, this isn't permanent.

Killing is not being an anti-hero. SpOck is trying to help the greater good, in fact more so then Peter ever did. As much as we hate it, issue 9 did have some truth to it. Sure its bitter but the truth hurts. Avoiding killing is not an obligation nor the definition of a hero, a hero saves lives, killing is a question of morals, which SpOck has not taken to. There's more to this character then meets the eye, as is with most superheroes. Peter focusing on friends has affected the lives of many others, so being a douche to friends or a douche to the rest of the people in the world?? Errrr...

Edited by DJ1107

@hawkguy: just forget it dude. The guy clearly doesn't know what the book is trying to be & will whine about it to no end thus furthering my regrets of joining this site.

Edited by wolverine1610

i found it funny when Otto stated that criminals and murderers don't become different people and stopped when he realized the irony of the statement. I'm also really digging the Spider/Octo bots, if and when peter switches back he should definitely keep using them. Also does anyone else notice that Otto is basically doing the batman, as in he anticipates what his opponents will do and plans ahead if he can in advance, like blocking all possible routes for spider-slayer to escape from his own experiences?

Posted by frogdog

@hawkguy said:

@frogdog: yes, bruce wayne IS batman, and peter parker IS spider-man, this isn't permanent.

Killing is not being an anti-hero. SpOck is trying to help the greater good, in fact more so then Peter ever did. As much as we hate it, issue 9 did have some truth to it. Sure its bitter but the truth hurts. Avoiding killing is not an obligation nor the definition of a hero, a hero saves lives, killing is a question of morals, which SpOck has not taken to. There's more to this character then meets the eye, as is with most superheroes. Peter focusing on friends has affected the lives of many others, so being a douche to friends or a douche to the rest of the people in the world?? Errrr...

Killing is a defining trope for nearly ever anti-hero. So invading privacy, and going big brother is considered a good thing? Please all of the villains that Ock has faced are far from A-list threats. Issue 9 was bullshit of the highest order, Ock is used to murdering people who don't follow his way and even used kids to do bidding for his own crimes, not to mention it was Ock's tech that placed the girl in the hospital. Killing the main thing that stops the line between hero and villain, the minute a hero starts justify murder, their path will be no different from the villain.

Yet him being douche almost cost Mary Jane's own life....

Edited by marvelftw

I keep wrestling with whether I should drop this or not. I want it to be Peter, but then the story is compelling, but then in the back of my mind I know I'm reading it to see Peter's return. Plus, with my lack of a job, the 3.99 twice a month may hurt with everything else I'm getting.

Posted by Lurkero

Put together the heroism of a good guy and the diabolical scheming of a bad guy and you have a dangerous combination.

Posted by Kurolegacy

I keep wrestling with whether I should drop this or not. I want it to be Peter, but then the story is compelling, but then in the back of my mind I know I'm reading it to see Peter's return. Plus, with my lack of a job, the 3.99 twice a month may hurt with everything else I'm getting.

If it comes down to a matter of lack of a job and being unsure about whether you should continue, I'd say it's better to trade wait, especially since it's dropping almost $8 a month which adds up fast.

Posted by DJ1107

@frogdog: So Ocks douchery nearly endangering MJ life ruffles your jimmies as oppose to every other time she's been around Spider-man? Goddamnit your desperate for people to agree with you...

Edited by frogdog

@dj1107 said:

@frogdog: So Ocks douchery nearly endangering MJ life ruffles your jimmies as oppose to every other time she's been around Spider-man? Goddamnit your desperate for people to agree with you...

Majority of times were not down to a lack of responsibility, which is the whole point of spider-man.

Posted by Hawkguy

@frogdog: All I'm going to say is, many Marvel heroes have killed. I'm not going to argue with you anymore, you're extremely stubborn. Don't read it, buzz off. When Peter is back, I'll inbox you to let you know.

Who am I kidding, you'll already know, you read this book after all...

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

I'm not really bothered if this is Peter or Ock but it really pisses me off when your not aloud to state a negative reaction about a book on a review

Posted by Mr_Athrilla

@frogdog: Peter seriously needed to grow-up, and the body swap was Marvel's way of doing it. They weren't tired of Peter Parker. Just the stupid decisions he keeps making in order for him to still appear as a child. Saving Aunt may's life despite the fact she didn't want to be saved. selling his marriage to the devil. Not having life insurance, so if he dies in battle his loved have no way of taken care of themselves (obv before May got re-married)

It wouldn't be acceptable with other heroes, because other heroes are adults who got their acts together. They don't do the juvenile things peter does.

Edited by marvelftw

@kurolegacy: Yeah, I probably will. I'll definitely pick this back up though when Peter comes back or when I get a new job. Whichever comes first lol

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