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Nightwing #7 - Turning Points Review

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Saiko and Nightwing square off, and the life that Dick could have had is revealed.

Saiko reveals that he was groomed to be a Talon in the Court of Owls. Where does Nightwing stand in all of this?

The Good

I've been thinking since Saiko has appeared, "man that guy looks a bit like a member of the Talon." Well, this issue confirms that Saiko was indeed groomed to be a part of the Court of Owls. I love seeing these two books tie in together.

That's not all that's revealed, spoilers ahead. Dick Grayson was supposed to be in Saiko's place to become a Talon, but Bruce took him away. Also, the Talon that Bruce was fighting was actually William Cobb, Dick's great-grandfather.j Because of some of the metals the Talon are using, they don't really age and they have advanced healing powers. There are so many jaw dropping moments in this issue, and every single one is a fantastic addition to the book.

This is how tie-ins should be done. I was a bit confused after I read Nightwing because I felt I needed to read Batman first, but there is no need for that. Both of these books give you the same information. You don't need to read both either. However, the four pages of info in this issue are extended to eight pages in Batman 7. Either way, you get the same info, but both work very well with each other.

If this doesn't excite you for the upcoming story line, nothing will. Not only is it an amazing stand alone issue, but it really opens the doors for the next story, and you know as a reader it's going to tie back into Batman.

The Bad

It really helps to be reading Batman to understand this book a bit better, since Batman has spent the past 6 issues dealing with the Court of Owls. However, you can still just read Nightwing alone and have a complete grasp of what's going on, but reading Batman as well just makes the impact and reveal so much better.

It's not really bad, but this is the first time I can remember loving a Nightwing book since the Mobbed Up storyline pre-One Year Later.... Wait... They both have the same color schemes... Am I being brainwashed to prefer a Nightwing in red?

The Verdict

Man, this book was epic. Is this the single best issue of Nightwing I've ever read? Yes. The minor things I didn't like about this book, like the small fact that it really helps to read Batman to get the full impact, are something I can easily overlook because of the pure awesomeness of this issue.

I love the fact there's three big reveals here, not just one. This adds so much more to the character, and makes you wonder "what if Bruce never adopted Dick," which is something most fans rarely think about. I'm very excited for the upcoming storyline and I think the is the perfect example for how two books should tie into each other.

Overall, I highly recommend this book. Now, it may not be the best place to start, so pick up at least issues 5 & 6, and try out the current Batman series as well. It's worth the money and you'll love it.

18 Comments
Posted by zackattack529

i love how i stuck with this series from the beggining and i liked all the issues up to here..but in my local comic store theyed bash this book on how lame it was...but as soon as word around the internet when up that this book had something to do with the court of owls..now this morning every single one of those guys picked up this issue -__- poseres lol nightwing all the way!!!

Posted by batmanary

@zackattack529 said:

i love how i stuck with this series from the beggining and i liked all the issues up to here..but in my local comic store theyed bash this book on how lame it was...but as soon as word around the internet when up that this book had something to do with the court of owls..now this morning every single one of those guys picked up this issue -__- poseres lol nightwing all the way!!!

I get you man. Kept Nightwing since the first issue! Man, this is gunna rock!

Posted by doordoor123
Posted by Icarusflies

This issue annoyed me because both it and Batman included the same scene…since they're both on my pull it felt like a waste of money, as it was a fairly large chunk of both books.

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Posted by zackattack529

@doordoor123 said:

I really liked this but I'm a little confused.

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Im confused by the whole thing. Can someone explain it to me?

noo, he was supposed to be though, but he wasnt strong enough in the courts opinion so they left him for dead. they really wanted dick grayson but he was adopted by bruce after the event of his parents death. so dick wouldve been a talon if not for that. so saiko is blaming dick for his life being ruined when it was really the circus. the circus is how the court gets members at a young age. remember that little notebook dick had found..thats the list of talons the court has and searches for. so neither dick or saiko(raymond) are talons but they wouldve been.

Get it now?.

Posted by TheOptimist

Oh my goodness, this was the ultimate in longhaul reward... I cannot WAIT to return to all the previous issues to pick apart the "real" meanings... the hidden clues... the ties to other titles that I missed... the shocks in the Batman title were wonderful enough... to have them further embellished through this tale... oh fantastic.

You were spot on with this review as well... it really comes down to the manner of the tie-in... I wouldn't have pegged this for a tie-in issue if I hadn't just read the Batman... they exist in a shared universe and potentially enhance each other... but operate beautifully as independent entities.

Well done to this creative team! All those on board have just moved a peg further up in my regard... cannot WAIT for next issue! In addition to being a fantastic issue/tie-in, this was one of the best "crossover" (if you truly call Night of the Owls that) leads that I've seen in a while. I am SO psyched for this.

Posted by FoxxFireArt

It's nice when there can be a certain level of continuity between series.

It's a pitfall Marvel and DC created for themselves that all their comics take place withing the same universe and happen within the same time. How could alines be overrunning Earth in Superman, and Batman is following some snitch to get a lead on the Riddler? It forces writers to try and work larger events into their own stories. That's one of the reasons why I hate yearly comic events.

Posted by doordoor123

@zackattack529 said:

@doordoor123 said:

I really liked this but I'm a little confused.

I

Im confused by the whole thing. Can someone explain it to me?

noo, he was supposed to be though, but he wasnt strong enough in the courts opinion so they left him for dead. they really wanted dick grayson but he was adopted by bruce after the event of his parents death. so dick wouldve been a talon if not for that. so saiko is blaming dick for his life being ruined when it was really the circus. the circus is how the court gets members at a young age. remember that little notebook dick had found..thats the list of talons the court has and searches for. so neither dick or saiko(raymond) are talons but they wouldve been.

Get it now?.

Yes, yes thank you. I think I tried to be ignorant of the connections to Batman. I intentionally tried to separate the two in my mind and didn't see the Talon connection till this issue. Well that answers all of my confusion.

Posted by The Mighty Monarch

I'll be honest, the past two or three issues had me convinced that this arc couldn't come to a completely satisfying conclusion after the amazing beginning.

Higgins proved me wrong. Bravo.

Posted by GBrutality

great ending. feel kind of bad that dick's childhood now seems a bit more bastardized than it originally was. hopefully his parents were unaware of that their happy circus home was also a silent auction for early assassin grooming.

Posted by BatMark_

After starting off strong, I felt this story kinda slowed down in the middle and that it wouldn't finish with quite the bang that it started off with. But damn was my mind blown, as a lifelong Nightwing fan it was awesome to see the twist and show what Dick could have been if not for Batman. The tie in with Batman was genius as well, we're lucky that Snyder and Higgins are really close friends or else it might not have been half as good...

Posted by MonkeyToe

@BatMark_ said:

After starting off strong, I felt this story kinda slowed down in the middle and that it wouldn't finish with quite the bang that it started off with. But damn was my mind blown, as a lifelong Nightwing fan it was awesome to see the twist and show what Dick could have been if not for Batman. The tie in with Batman was genius as well, we're lucky that Snyder and Higgins are really close friends or else it might not have been half as good...

It seems like they may have had to intentionally force it to slow down the book so that it would match the cross over event. No wonder the whole New Orleans issue seemed like filler, lol

Posted by ReVamp

Respect on the review, you really did the book justice.

I rarely read CV reviews, but after just reading this issue, I can easily say it was one of the best Nightwing books I've read in a long time -- hell, its a superb book regardless. The issue was just epic with moments that just beg mindf*ck. I'd go into more detail but Ego really hit the spot with the review and I'd definitely agree with the fact that reading Batman and issue 5 and 6 are advisable. Also, read Nightwing before you read Batman. I didn't do that and felt it would have been better on me.

I'm not going to go into an actual review, but I really hope they do something with Raya, maybe even make her to Dick what Talia is to Batman.

Posted by cracker_jack

This was such a good twist.

Posted by mattwing87

I don't understand why the cover says the death of Dick Grayon when he wasn't even close to dying lol

Edited by MinkoAk

@mattwing87 said:

I don't understand why the cover says the death of Dick Grayon when he wasn't even close to dying lol

It didn't really lie, Saiko's "last act" was to be the death of Dick Grayson, he just failed it ! And well, shock value...

Posted by soccersss

I loved this issue. The tie in with Batman was genius as well as perfectly executed.

Posted by TheWalkingComicbookfan

What a fantastic issue! KH's writing has been superb on this title so far, and there have been many greats twists- most of which I haven't seen coming.... Having read this first, I am catching up on the batman issues, and how it ties in... I think just brillantly! This has been my favourite title of the new 52 (batman and flash coming close behind), and I can't wait for the next issue! Also great review by