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New Avengers #17 - A Perfect World II Review


The Anti-Heroic Age Earth comes into sharper focus as Black Panther and Namor finally decide to sit down and have a drink.

The Good

Called it! I predicted Jonathan Hickman would do right by us, his readers, and explain just what the screaming WHAT is going on in the pages of New Avengers within a couple of issues. I think I’m beginning to get the hang of how to read his comics: never miss a single one, and if you don’t understand something, don’t overanalyze it as it’ll come into focus later. The strangeness of the Norn's power is explained as Incursions themselves are made ever clearer and the goals and ambitions of the Great Society come into sharp focus. Even the Mapmakers make a LITTLE more sense after reading this issue, both as a plot device and in the way they operate (they were last seen making absolute sport of the heroes of another Earth a few issues back). We also get to see T’Challa and Namor observing this Earth and ruminating on what to do about future incursions, but eventually the talk turns much more personal, and the two fallen kings actually come to an understanding of the other’s view and position. All without punching each other or coming together to face a greater threat. And the cliffhanger the issue ends on is predictable, but still impactful...

Rags Morales returns for the linework, and he absolutely nails it with his usual ultra-expressive faces and sharp, defined lines. The characters all stand out against the stark, plain backgrounds of the Great Society’s Earth as well as the more complex, dark 616 setting. The shadows in this issue deserve praise especially as this is an issue of extreme contrasting lights, and they always look fantastic. Frank Martin’s colors are a big part of this, giving life and verve to every panel, regardless of what is happening in them.

The Bad

Despite how amazing the art is, we get more than a few panels that are complete blank but for the character speaking, and in one of them it’s JUST the character’s head. I’m aware of the limitations of artists, and when the art looks this good, it’s even more apparent, but I’d be derelict in my duties if I didn’t mention it.

I get that the two main characters are coming together for a common goal, and even hash out many of their differences, but it’s a little strange to see two men who inflicted incredible, grievous harm on one another’s kingdoms just dropping their guard and being so jocular with one another.

The Verdict

It’s all coming together and I’m finally getting a solid, firm grasp not only on Incursions, but how they’re stopped and exactly at what cost. This is the most interesting issue yet as, for the first time, Hickman appears poised to deliver an actual fight between the two Incursion worlds’ heroes rather than simply having a doomsday weapon OR having the Incursion World inhabited by pure antagonists like the Mapmakers or Black Priests. This is blurring the already shaky moral ground upon which the Illuminati stands and now, as we’ve grown to know the denizens of this new Earth, it makes things even more complicated.

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Posted by BlazingNova

I haven't missed a single issue from this series but the last few issues since the ending of Infinity feels like it's dragging out too much. The last three issues could have been combined into 1 issue. So in debating whether or not to get this issue. And hearing that Namor and Black Panthet have resolved their issues is sad to hear, because ever since BP said he would kill him I was always waiting to see if he would go through with it .

Posted by Cap10nate

Really enjoyed this issue as I have the entire series. Avengers 28 leads into this issue, and it might be my top pull of April. It was such a great issue, and it flowed nicely into this one.

Posted by Wolverine08

Sounds good. Last issues have been dragging, this looks like it's gotten back on track.

Posted by KingAres109

So in this issues do BP and Namor talk??I will get it if they do.

Posted by GrenadeFlow

So in this issues do BP and Namor talk??I will get it if they do.

They do.

This and Avengers #29 were so awesome this week

Edited by ravisher

that cover is awesome

Posted by spacemanspiff85

I hope when this comes out in TPB the title is something like "New Avengers: Watching TV".

Posted by Ultron345

This book is just too good. Morales on art is great too. T'Challa and Namor never gets old.

Posted by thewalkingdeadpool18

Outside of GOTG and any X related book i don't read much team books but i might start picking this and Avengers up when i go to the comics store tommorow. I couldn't go to the store today because of rain but if this series is as good as people say it is if it's still there tommorow i will probbably pick it up depending on all i pick up tommorow. Can someone tell me is the normal Avengers title good? I think their having an annual or anniversery or something this week i may pick up the comic but i don't know if the run in general is good.

Posted by feargalr

Hot damn this series is soooooo good!

Posted by Owie

Sigh. I mean, there were parts of this that were interesting, but that very lengthy tete-a-tete between Black Panther and Namor just sucked up the pages and did nothing for me whatsoever. I like them as a pair, they often have great tension, but this was boring.

I am glad to have the Mapmakers expanded on a bit. Overall I feel like I am only reading this damn series now because I want to know what's going on, not really because I'm enjoying it any more. This volume could have compressed so many issues together. It could be maybe 5 issues shorter than it has been, without losing any artistic value.

Posted by WaveMotionCannon

I love this book, Hickman may drag things out a bit sometimes but he always delivers. I loved seeing Hickmans JLA take on the Mapmakers.

Posted by TonyNGarcia

What on Earth happened to the Living Tribunal? Remember Iron Man and the Watcher seeing his mangled body on the moon? Did Iron Man bother to tell anyone? What about the other Cosmic Entities like Eternity? I mean the guy is supposed to be the most powerful entity in the ENTIRE Marvel Universe and his death is..a non event? Did Hickman forget about it?