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Invincible #110 Review

5

This is easily one of the most shocking issues of Invincible ever written. While the book often contains incredible violence, this one more than others is intended for mature readers.

The Good

I’ll talk around spoilers as much as I can, but something incredibly and intensely traumatic happens to a major character in this issue, and I doubt it’s something that will soon be forgotten. Invincible returns from the other dimension and meets with Eve, now very pregnant and very, very fed up with Mark’s constant departures into danger. Unlike Mark's mother, Eve isn’t willing to tell their child that daddy’s just gone for awhile and may never come back. Robert Kirkman ably handles this scene without making either Eve or Mark seem unreasonable, this is a very realistic problem with their relationship to which there is no easy solution. They part ways with things still VERY up in the air and that’s when Mark encounters Anissa and a vicious battle ensues. Kirkman writes an incredibly uncomfortable, horrifying scene with the appropriate gravitas, and it’s likely to change the book and its characters in the extremely longterm. This is a very character-limited issue, there are only three major ones that show up and all three characters definitely get their moments to shine, though that may be the wrong phrase to use, this is not a shiny issue.

Ryan Ottley’s layouts and incredible pencil details in this outdo...well the layouts and incredible pencil details from the previous issues. He is an artist always in the process of topping himself. This is an emotional roller-coaster of an issue and one that trades in massive moments, though the emotions never go so far as melodrama, and the pacing of the book is perfect. Scenes transition from one to the next with incredible fluidity, and the scenes has some incredibly expressive faces, which is good considering this is almost entirely dialog-driven. We also get, as usual, Cliff Rathburn and his incredibly sharp inks. The linework in this issue, and really in this book in general, is extremely smooth, but never lacking in a defining edge. The best way I can describe it is sharp without being jagged, and that is not a bad thing. Everything is sharply defined and the colors, by John Rauch, are likewise leaping off the page. There’s a lot of great use of shadows and sunlight that illuminates some panels and obscures others, but it always looks incredible. It's especially grim to see such a scene occur in broad daylight with such a diverse color palette.

The Bad

There’s nothing “bad” in this issue quality-wise, but I’m not kidding when I say it will leave you feeling highly uncomfortable. This isn’t a reason not to pick it up, but it’s definitely worth reiterating.

The Verdict

Beyond the obvious incident, there’s an incredible theme of racial purity being upheld that I think might be undercut, but is definitely present and makes the whole thing EVEN MORE uncomfortable and despicable. I’m going to come out and say that this is an important issue of an amazing comic, and not just from the plot’s standpoint. Knowing how Kirkman has operated over the last 110 + issues, this isn’t going to be some blip on the radar, this is going to have far-reaching, devastating consequences, even if they’re not immediately apparent. The drama has been brought to a whole other level in this issue, and I’m absolutely reeling with wondering where it goes next.

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Posted by TheAcidSkull

I think I just read a porno.

Posted by SmashBrawler

I'm reeeeeally conflicted regarding what happens in this issue.

Edited by Black_Arrow

This image applies in so many senses in this issue too.

Posted by orionbolt

This had an effect on me. It was super uncomfortable to watch this happen. I NOW know what rape feels like.

Posted by Black_Arrow

This had an effect on me. It was super uncomfortable to watch this happen. I NOW know what rape feels like.

This happen to me too I don't know how to feel about this issue. The writing was genius and the art gorgeous but I feel so sad.

Posted by Saren

Just when you think this book can't get any more edgy or over-the-top, it does this.

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Posted by TheAcidSkull

Anyways, back to invincible.

Good review man, tho I have to disagree with you on the score. I honestly do not believe someone could hold mark in place like that, considering that he defeated conquest, one of, if not the strongest Viltrumite after Thragg. It just seemed off to me, I get that this issue was dedicated to be one of marks worst days, and that's not an easy thing to top, because MARK had had VERY BAD days in the past. Unless Kirkman implied that due to Mark's anger and sadness he kind of gave in, I just don't see something like this going down, there were a couple of ways he could have gotten out of her hold, yet he just kept moaning.

Either ways, it was a good issue, but...

Posted by Black_Arrow

Am I the only one who thought that Anissa was very hot in this issue? I meaning yeah she was scary but she was also very hot. It all felt really weird.

Posted by Black_Arrow

Anyways, back to invincible.

Good review man, tho I have to disagree with you on the score. I honestly do not believe someone could hold mark in place like that, considering that he defeated conquest, one of, if not the strongest Viltrumite after Thragg. It just seemed off to me, I get that this issue was dedicated to be one of marks worst days, and that's not an easy thing to top, because MARK had had VERY BAD days in the past. Unless Kirkman implied that due to Mark's anger and sadness he kind of gave in, I just don't see something like this going down, there were a couple of ways he could have gotten out of her hold, yet he just kept moaning.

Either ways, it was a good issue, but...

Mark was sad and confused, Anissa remarks this. She is one of elite Viltrumite, I think it is fair that she could rape Mark.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull said:

Anyways, back to invincible.

Good review man, tho I have to disagree with you on the score. I honestly do not believe someone could hold mark in place like that, considering that he defeated conquest, one of, if not the strongest Viltrumite after Thragg. It just seemed off to me, I get that this issue was dedicated to be one of marks worst days, and that's not an easy thing to top, because MARK had had VERY BAD days in the past. Unless Kirkman implied that due to Mark's anger and sadness he kind of gave in, I just don't see something like this going down, there were a couple of ways he could have gotten out of her hold, yet he just kept moaning.

Either ways, it was a good issue, but...

Mark was sad and confused, Anissa remarks this. She is one of elite Viltrumite, I think it is fair that she could rape Mark.

The same mark who turned Conquest, someone who is vastly stronger than Anissa, into a sled?
I THINK NAWT!

Edited by Black_Arrow

@theacidskull said:

@black_arrow said:

@theacidskull said:

Anyways, back to invincible.

Good review man, tho I have to disagree with you on the score. I honestly do not believe someone could hold mark in place like that, considering that he defeated conquest, one of, if not the strongest Viltrumite after Thragg. It just seemed off to me, I get that this issue was dedicated to be one of marks worst days, and that's not an easy thing to top, because MARK had had VERY BAD days in the past. Unless Kirkman implied that due to Mark's anger and sadness he kind of gave in, I just don't see something like this going down, there were a couple of ways he could have gotten out of her hold, yet he just kept moaning.

Either ways, it was a good issue, but...

Mark was sad and confused, Anissa remarks this. She is one of elite Viltrumite, I think it is fair that she could rape Mark.

The same mark who turned Conquest, someone who is vastly stronger than Anissa, into a sled?

I THINK NAWT!

Well that Mark was angry more than anything, he felt that all was his fault and he only wanted to liberate his rage. This Mark is thinking about the future of his baby and his relation ship with Eve. So more confused than anything, He thought that he was going to arrive home, kiss Eve and kicked Robot ass but Things got a turn for the worse. He is also thinking if he is going to turn evil like that other version of him because Eve rejected him.

Posted by SmashBrawler

@orionbolt said:

I NOW know what rape feels like.

Please don't say that ever again.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull said:

@black_arrow said:

@theacidskull said:

Anyways, back to invincible.

Good review man, tho I have to disagree with you on the score. I honestly do not believe someone could hold mark in place like that, considering that he defeated conquest, one of, if not the strongest Viltrumite after Thragg. It just seemed off to me, I get that this issue was dedicated to be one of marks worst days, and that's not an easy thing to top, because MARK had had VERY BAD days in the past. Unless Kirkman implied that due to Mark's anger and sadness he kind of gave in, I just don't see something like this going down, there were a couple of ways he could have gotten out of her hold, yet he just kept moaning.

Either ways, it was a good issue, but...

Mark was sad and confused, Anissa remarks this. She is one of elite Viltrumite, I think it is fair that she could rape Mark.

The same mark who turned Conquest, someone who is vastly stronger than Anissa, into a sled?

I THINK NAWT!

Well that Mark was angry more than anything, he felt that all was his fault and he only wanted to liberate his rage. This Mark is thinking about the future of his baby and his relation ship with Eve. So more confused than anything, He thought that he was going to arrive home, kiss Eve and kicked Robot ass but Things got a turn for the worse. He is also thinking if he is going to turn evil like that other version of him because Eve rejected him.

Wouldn't all of this stem and encourage his rage?

Posted by Black_Arrow

@black_arrow said:

@theacidskull said:

@black_arrow said:

@theacidskull said:

Anyways, back to invincible.

Good review man, tho I have to disagree with you on the score. I honestly do not believe someone could hold mark in place like that, considering that he defeated conquest, one of, if not the strongest Viltrumite after Thragg. It just seemed off to me, I get that this issue was dedicated to be one of marks worst days, and that's not an easy thing to top, because MARK had had VERY BAD days in the past. Unless Kirkman implied that due to Mark's anger and sadness he kind of gave in, I just don't see something like this going down, there were a couple of ways he could have gotten out of her hold, yet he just kept moaning.

Either ways, it was a good issue, but...

Mark was sad and confused, Anissa remarks this. She is one of elite Viltrumite, I think it is fair that she could rape Mark.

The same mark who turned Conquest, someone who is vastly stronger than Anissa, into a sled?

I THINK NAWT!

Well that Mark was angry more than anything, he felt that all was his fault and he only wanted to liberate his rage. This Mark is thinking about the future of his baby and his relation ship with Eve. So more confused than anything, He thought that he was going to arrive home, kiss Eve and kicked Robot ass but Things got a turn for the worse. He is also thinking if he is going to turn evil like that other version of him because Eve rejected him.

Wouldn't all of this stem and encourage his rage?

No he is wondering what he would about his life and he is wondering why is everything happening to him right now. (he got betrayed by Rex a long time friend, he is rejected by his greatest love and he wonders how can he repair all of this) Of course there is going to be more in the next issue. (Also if you see the fight, you can see that Mark is not angry he never shows anything like that)

Posted by dondave

@theacidskull: Mark only really beat Conquest initially because Conquest killed Eve and in their second fight Conquest had the upper hand and only his pain threshold, resilience and the thought that Conquest was going to kill Oliver allowed him to outlast Conquest.

In this instance he didnt have a real motivating factor, apart from not wanting have sex with Annisa to give him the e star boost to take her out.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@dondave said:

@theacidskull: Mark only really beat Conquest initially because Conquest killed Eve and in their second fight Conquest had the upper hand and only his pain threshold, resilience and the thought that Conquest was going to kill Oliver allowed him to outlast Conquest.

In this instance he didnt have a real motivating factor, apart from not wanting have sex with Annisa to give him the e star boost to take her out.

So the betrayal of one of his friends, the rejection of the woman he loves( and possibly his son as well), combined with the fact that some deranged vitrumite wanted to rape her, wasn't enough? Look I'm not saying that he should have turned her head into goo, I'm just saying that HE could have easily knocked her off, I don't buy even for a second that she would be able to put mark down with ONE hand.

Posted by Farkam

lol damn

Edited by Black_Arrow

@dondave said:

@theacidskull: Mark only really beat Conquest initially because Conquest killed Eve and in their second fight Conquest had the upper hand and only his pain threshold, resilience and the thought that Conquest was going to kill Oliver allowed him to outlast Conquest.

In this instance he didnt have a real motivating factor, apart from not wanting have sex with Annisa to give him the e star boost to take her out.

So the betrayal of one of his friends, the rejection of the woman he loves( and possibly his son as well), combined with the fact that some deranged vitrumite wanted to rape her, wasn't enough? Look I'm not saying that he should have turned her head into goo, I'm just saying that HE could have easily knocked her off, I don't buy even for a second that she would be able to put mark down with ONE hand.

She say that he was unsure that he didn't want that. It is in the page where the rape happens.

Posted by Black_Arrow

The first pages with Mark in the next issue are going to be fun, He has to go naked to Art´s place, to get a new suit.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@theacidskull said:

@dondave said:

@theacidskull: Mark only really beat Conquest initially because Conquest killed Eve and in their second fight Conquest had the upper hand and only his pain threshold, resilience and the thought that Conquest was going to kill Oliver allowed him to outlast Conquest.

In this instance he didnt have a real motivating factor, apart from not wanting have sex with Annisa to give him the e star boost to take her out.

So the betrayal of one of his friends, the rejection of the woman he loves( and possibly his son as well), combined with the fact that some deranged vitrumite wanted to rape her, wasn't enough? Look I'm not saying that he should have turned her head into goo, I'm just saying that HE could have easily knocked her off, I don't buy even for a second that she would be able to put mark down with ONE hand.

She say that he was unsure that he didn't want that. It is in the page where the rape happens.

yeah, that kind of strengthens my theory that mark kind of gave in, otherwise I can't see the logic in it.

Posted by Black_Arrow

@black_arrow said:

@theacidskull said:

@dondave said:

@theacidskull: Mark only really beat Conquest initially because Conquest killed Eve and in their second fight Conquest had the upper hand and only his pain threshold, resilience and the thought that Conquest was going to kill Oliver allowed him to outlast Conquest.

In this instance he didnt have a real motivating factor, apart from not wanting have sex with Annisa to give him the e star boost to take her out.

So the betrayal of one of his friends, the rejection of the woman he loves( and possibly his son as well), combined with the fact that some deranged vitrumite wanted to rape her, wasn't enough? Look I'm not saying that he should have turned her head into goo, I'm just saying that HE could have easily knocked her off, I don't buy even for a second that she would be able to put mark down with ONE hand.

She say that he was unsure that he didn't want that. It is in the page where the rape happens.

yeah, that kind of strengthens my theory that mark kind of gave in, otherwise I can't see the logic in it.

I am thinking of the same right now. Mark was tired, sad and confused, he gave in. In normal conditions he would have beat her.

Posted by superior_prime_maybe

....

this was sad.
Original. I mean i guess all the things that happened in this issue has happened before, like spidey broke up, nightwing and tarantula, but none of them made my inside twirl like this. This comic just keeps getting intense.
And all i was thinking that 100 issues ago he was just a kid... its just so sad.

Posted by dondave

@black_arrow Why do you think he should have beaten her? She has beaten him before and although he's obviously gotten stronger since then, we have no way to indicate that he's gotten stronger than her.

Edited by Reactor

Wow. This was all kinds of disturbing... not sure how I feel about this issue.

Posted by Black_Arrow

@dondave said:

@black_arrow Why do you think he should have beaten her? She has beaten him before and although he's obviously gotten stronger since then, we have no way to indicate that he's gotten stronger than her.

Well I shouldn t have said beat her more like being an equal to her. A battle between the two will be too close. I agree that Mark beat Conquest because of his emotions that made him stronger than Conquest. In the last fight in the Viltrumite war Nolan said to Mark that his emotions (that came from earth) make him stronger. A Viltrumite like Anissa could never have beaten Conquest because she lacks human emotions to amp her strength.

Posted by SmashBrawler

So, am I the only one who's noticed Anissa's plan makes no sense? I mean, sure, she found a loophole to the orders she has given and bred with a human (or half-human) but then what? Does she really think Nolan's going to be OK with this? Obviously, I don't think Mark's just going to tell him about what happened but he is going to find out at one point.

Posted by Reactor

So, am I the only one who's noticed Anissa's plan makes no sense? I mean, sure, she found a loophole to the orders she has given and bred with a human (or half-human) but then what? Does she really think Nolan's going to be OK with this? Obviously, I don't think Mark's just going to tell him about what happened but he is going to find out at one point.

Nolan's not going to kill the mother of his future grandchild. Especially not while she's potentially pregnant, and not when she's going to be the child's only mother. He's too humanized now. He'll almost certainly judge and punish her somehow, but I'm 99% positive she's not going to die.

Posted by Black_Arrow

So, am I the only one who's noticed Anissa's plan makes no sense? I mean, sure, she found a loophole to the orders she has given and bred with a human (or half-human) but then what? Does she really think Nolan's going to be OK with this? Obviously, I don't think Mark's just going to tell him about what happened but he is going to find out at one point.

She doesn't understand Human logic at all. Nolan cant blame her to use the ways that the Viltrumite empire had. I am sure he didn't say nothing like "You cant rape people". When he knows he is going to state that they are not going to use in anyway the Viltrumite way and He is probably going to forgive her because killing somebody was part of the old ways.

Posted by SmashBrawler

@reactor said:

@smashbrawler said:

So, am I the only one who's noticed Anissa's plan makes no sense? I mean, sure, she found a loophole to the orders she has given and bred with a human (or half-human) but then what? Does she really think Nolan's going to be OK with this? Obviously, I don't think Mark's just going to tell him about what happened but he is going to find out at one point.

Nolan's not going to kill the mother of his future grandchild. Especially not while she's potentially pregnant, and not when she's going to be the child's only mother. He's too humanized now. He'll almost certainly judge and punish her somehow, but I'm 99% positive she's not going to die.

Not saying he'd kill her, but this is hardly something he'd approve of, especially when he's also got another future grandchild that comes from a much healthier conception.

Posted by SmashBrawler

@black_arrow: I understand that, what I mean is that he won't be happy to hear she raped his own son and that will have consequences (probably not fatal, but I don't take he'd just roll with this).

Edited by Black_Arrow

@smashbrawler said:

@black_arrow: I understand that, what I mean is that he won't be happy to hear she raped his own son and that will have consequences (probably not fatal, but I don't take he'd just roll with this).

Maybe he would exiled her too. And in this universe there is going to be a Thragg rebels(like there was in the other universe that Invincible was evil) and the first member is going to be Anissa. Maybe Invincible(or his son with Eve) will have to fight a son that he had with Anissa.

Posted by SmashBrawler

@black_arrow said:

@smashbrawler said:

@black_arrow: I understand that, what I mean is that he won't be happy to hear she raped his own son and that will have consequences (probably not fatal, but I don't take he'd just roll with this).

Of course not maybe he would exiled her too. And in this universe there is going to be a Thragg rebels and the first member is going to be Anissa. Maybe Invincible(or his son with Eve) will have to fight a son that he had with Anissa.

That actually sounds pretty interesting. Gah, I hate being excited about the possible consequences of someone being raped, feels so wrong.

Posted by BR_Havoc

For such a talented writer Kirkman is the ultimate hypocrite. You bash DC and Marvel for having the nerve to bring up rape but then you use it in all of your comics and do much more then just imply it for shock value.

Posted by eldestrisk

I thought it was implied that Mark didn't finish so her being pregnant is not that likely. Or I totally misread that last page?

Posted by Black_Arrow

I thought it was implied that Mark didn't finish so her being pregnant is not that likely. Or I totally misread that last page?

She say "probably". The may use this to say that she didn't have a child with him but later it is revealed that he had a son(or daughter) with her,

Posted by MCPhatman

I thought this issue was horrid she just pops out of nowhere in the middle of an ongoing storyline to just rape him. Why now? Why not later? Why not before. It's shocking but feels so cheap...

A little like Invincible has been feeling for a while.

But it is working it just got 5 stars and everyone (myself included) is talking about it.

Posted by dagmar_merrill

This had an effect on me. It was super uncomfortable to watch this happen. I NOW know what rape feels like.

No, no you do not.

@br_havoc said:

For such a talented writer Kirkman is the ultimate hypocrite. You bash DC and Marvel for having the nerve to bring up rape but then you use it in all of your comics and do much more then just imply it for shock value.

This is true.

Posted by fil123

It started off as rape but i dont think it ended as rape, hear me out

there is a panel with her arm on his chest, leaving his arm free to hit her/push away

Posted by Black_Arrow

@br_havoc: @dagmar_merrill: “When I was reading comics when I was 15, Superman didn’t deal with rape so much, you know? There weren’t a lot of dark elements to mainstream superhero comics. I think that it’s pretty obvious that one of the things that’s hurting comics is that the subject matter is so inappropriate for a mass audience. You know, Marvel just did an intercompany crossover which was supposed to be something all of their readers can read, and it had guys ripping each other in half and intestines were flying all over the place. That’s the kind of thing that you would see in a Walking Dead comic. I don’t want to see Spider-Man swinging around, tripping in intestines going, ‘Aw, crap! What a mess!’ That’s not the kind of thing that’s going to get Billy down the street off of his Xbox. I think part of the problem is that the writers and artists that are doing these books want to write them for themselves, instead of for the audience they should be writing to. And I think that’s a real problem. [...] I think it’s cool to see superheroes rip people in half. Because if superheroes really had superpowers, that’s the kind of shit that would happen, just on accident, you know? And so I created a book called Invincible that isn’t meant for a younger audience, and has superheroes ripping each other in half. But I didn’t try to take Superman and turn it into that book. I did my own book. I think that’s the key.” This is exactly what he said. I don't see how is he being an hypocrite

Posted by BR_Havoc

@black_arrow: If Kirkman wants to call out the industry he should lead by example or not speak his opinion, Marvel wants to sell books the same thing he is doing what he says there is there is a different set of rules for him because he is independent. He is allowed to be dark but Marvel is not. Both Invincible and Walking Dead never started as hopeless as they are now, Kirkman has made a conscience decision to take these books as dark and " shocking" as he can to sell them off of sensationalism which is unfortunate because he is so talented he does not need to do that.

So what is Kirkman trying to say in that quote? Image is not going to save comics so I can just write whatever I want as dark as I can make it and then say hey Marvel you keep the industry alive with innocent storytelling?

Posted by InkInk

Kirkman has officially lost it he now joins the ranks of writers he defends like Loeb. This was not about the emotional impact it will have on the character Kirman here purposely took rape and attempted to make it titillating in the way it is drawn to appeal to a very small and sick subculture of people that like to see peril and rape porn. It's disgusting and reading his quote Black_Arrow posted he can keep championing his indie brand when they embody all the same traits that are so called ruining the industry.

Posted by dagmar_merrill

@black_arrow: So, because more people read Marvel they should make it friendlier while Image gets to do whatever because not as many people read it.. Not seeing it still.

Posted by TheFirstLantern

What in the world just happened. It feels unnecessary but knowing Kirkman this might pop up back in issue 113 or 193 for all we know. I do prefer her over Eve though simply bc I feel like eve will be killed. I don't know how I feel rn.

Edited by Black_Arrow

@dagmar_merrill said:

@black_arrow: So, because more people read Marvel they should make it friendlier while Image gets to do whatever because not as many people read it.. Not seeing it still.

I understand where you are going I have read it a few times and first it looks like he is saying that the company in general can not be dark. But In the last part of the quote, I understood it that a character like Superman who is suppose to be a more light should stay that way and If they want to make him do more mature things that are not for the original audience, then they should create another character entirely different for a more mature audience and they should leave Superman friendly. He is saying that the writers shouldn't make a character something that it isn't and aiming it to a different public that it was meant to, Instead they should do their own characters.

Posted by Black_Arrow

@br_havoc: I forgot to tag you my response would be the one above.

Posted by BR_Havoc

@black_arrow: I reiterate then lead by example something Kirkman can not do. He will always call out Marvel first chance he gets if it's not gore or rape it will be about renumbering or variants ( Something he is very guilty of now) yet he does not and will never have to concern himself with the things Marvel has too like keeping characters legacy alive, like all the other books at Image he has his own little sandbox to play in and Kirkman has shown time and time again that he wants extreme dark and edgy he writes for sensationalism. Just like the big too have been lately. As the old saying goes people in glass houses should not throw stones.

Edited by Black_Arrow

@br_havoc said:

@black_arrow: I reiterate then lead by example something Kirkman can not do. He will always call out Marvel first chance he gets if it's not gore or rape it will be about renumbering or variants ( Something he is very guilty of now) yet he does not and will never have to concern himself with the things Marvel has too like keeping characters legacy alive, like all the other books at Image he has his own little sandbox to play in and Kirkman has shown time and time again that he wants extreme dark and edgy he writes for sensationalism. Just like the big too have been lately. As the old saying goes people in glass houses should not throw stones.

This is completely correct but he is no being a hypocrite. If he took another person character that is suppose to be friendly and for kids and he make it a killing machine then he would be a hypocrite because he is doing something that he says they shouldn't do (I haven't read too many mainstream books with him so maybe he has done it, If that is the case then he is an hypocrite). I think that the best way to describe it what he does is being a fool (I don't believe that he is a fool, I think he does it on purpose so indie comics can get more people), he isn't taking in consideration that if a character wants to survive thorough the ages, the characters have to change.

I wasn't really defending Kirkman I was just pointing out that he is not an hypocrite.

Posted by darknightspideyfanboy

there is no sympathy for a man being rape

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