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Injustice: Gods Among Us #11 - Chapter 11 Review

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Wonder Woman and Aquaman throwdown while Batman and Superman exchange verbal blows.

The Good

Well, that escalated quickly. As expected, Wonder Woman’s fist of fury to Aquaman’s face has started a little war between the heroes and the Atlanteans. Writer Tom Taylor is definitely giving Wonder Woman her credit and then some when it comes to physicals because that one punch sent Arthur into dreamsville. ONE PUNCH! ONE PUNCH!

What comes next is a fairly fun yet short melee, but the real attention grabber is the dialogue between Bruce and Clark. It goes without saying that the conflict between DC’s two most popular heroes is the crux of the story and, for most of us, the reason why we’re reading this. Thankfully, Taylor delivers both a relatable and compelling conversation between the two A-listers. Neither is blatantly in the wrong here and both make completely understandable points. Wayne drops a pretty powerful statement – a line that’s sure to set some fans off, but it’s one that I actually agree with. Alfred’s “master” retort was a perfect way to conclude the scene.

The art in this issue’s absolutely a mixed bag but it does work with the Bat Cave segment. The focus on rough edges and heavy shading/inking creates a fitting atmosphere for the heated conversation taking place between the two. The dialogue is gripping between the two (though the "loved him" remark was a bit odd to me) and thankfully the art does an able job bringing the key scene to life.

The Bad

The brief battle wasn’t as epic as I hoped it would be. Shazam doesn’t do anything except for hold Aquaman and Green Lantern’s visible interaction is limited to the conclusion. Don’t get me wrong, it was cool seeing Aquaman and Wonder Woman face off (even if it was very short), but I’d love to see these other characters get some extra love. Hopefully we’ll see that in the next issue.

While Tom Derenick’s art works well with the powerful Batman/Superman scene, it falls flat during what should feel like a grand war. I understand there’s a tight deadline with this weekly comic so it’s somewhat understandable, but the scene is seriously lacking in detail whenever the panel isn’t a close-up. Seeing as this battle is roughly half of the comic, it definitely took a bit away from the experience for me.

The Verdict

If someone asked me Superman / Wonder Woman / Shazam / Green Lantern vs. the Kraken, the answer would be pretty obvious, right? Superman alone could probably swat the thing into orbit. But this Kraken… wow, talk about massive. We’ve only seen parts of two tentacles and those things are absurdly large. The coming battle should be a blast and hopefully show off why Shazam and Hal are characters we'll want to play as in the upcoming game. I'm sure they'll get smacked around by this beast, but seeing why they're a powerhouse would be nice too, even if it is only momentarily. Regardless of my visual complaints, INJUSTICE: GODS AMONG US continues to be one of the best series from DC and is well worth the mere $0.99 cover price every Tuesday.

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Posted by mrpandopool

And here is another reason to think about Aquaman being a Badass. I know Aquaman was thinking "Release the kraken!" when SHAZAM grabbed him.

Posted by SNascimento

Injustice just keeps getting better and better.

Posted by Sleepbutnodream15

Alfred's response was amazing.

I also like how even though this book is just a comicbook tie-in, it's addressing the age-old comic book question: why can't superheroes kill? Who really get's to set the bar for which criminals need to be killed? Everyone has different perspectives and views, one person can't just call it right and move on. And superheroes are held to a higher standard because of their gifts. Good stuff. I look forward to this every week.

Posted by XImpossibruX

I'm still glad that even after Superman's pregnant wife was murdered, his entire life torn away from him, everyone in metropolis (including the city) is wiped out, his parents kidnapped, yet everyone is pretty "eh" about all that.

I'm usually for Batman, but this is ridiculous.

Still 0.99 for a comic is freaking sweet, been buying those babies off itunes.

Posted by SandMan_

Its nice too see that somewhere in the multiverse Superman calls Batman on his s**t.

Posted by StMichalofWilson

And here is another reason to think about Aquaman being a Badass. I know Aquaman was thinking "Release the kraken!" when SHAZAM grabbed him.

Awesome moment

@sandman_ said:

Its nice too see that somewhere in the multiverse Superman calls Batman on his s**t.

He also said it in the DCAU

Edited by Birthright

Superman pwned Batman

Edited by SandMan_
Posted by spartan626

The Alfred line was fantastic! I'm calling for him as a playable character.

Edited by MuyJingo

Why do you think Clark is a better man than Bruce?

I find the remark more curious than anything. I would have thought they are both exactly equal in terms of morals and ethics. The only real difference is Batman puts effort into making it seem like he is capable of bad stuff...when really he isnt.

Posted by JohnnyGat

Alfred > Batman and Superman combined

Posted by noj

@muyjingo: In the context of the conversation Bruce says that Clark is a better man not only due to his belief that he has a stronger moral code but also that he is able to connect with his family and friends in a way Bruce isnt emotionally capable of.

Edited by Superguy1591

@muyjingo: Clark sees the good in us, Bruce only sees the bad. Clark represents hope, Bruce represents vengeance. Bruce admitted that if he had Superman's powers he would've done what Superman is doing long time ago.

Superman had to lose everything he holds near and dear for him to cross that line.

Clark > Bruce...always.

Edited by lifeboy

Darn it! I am definatly getting this in trade! Hope it makes hardcover so I can put it next to my 'justice' and 'kingdom come' gn's on my display shelf.

Posted by UltimateSMfan

@lifeboy said:

Darn it! I am definatly getting this in trade! Hope it makes hardcover so I can put it next to my 'justice' and 'kingdom come' gn's on my display shelf.

my thoughts exactly....this story is incredible!! the supes bats interaction in this issue,totally amazing!

@sandman_ said:

Its nice too see that somewhere in the multiverse Superman calls Batman on his s**t.

this

Superman pwned Batman

Totally!!

Edited by Dark_Vengeance_

@superguy1591 said:

@muyjingo: Clark sees the good in us, Bruce only sees the bad. Clark represents hope, Bruce represents vengeance. Bruce admitted that if he had Superman's powers he would've done what Superman is doing long time ago.

Superman had to lose everything he holds near and dear for him to cross that line.

Clark > Bruce...always.

Alfred>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Clark>Bruce

In this issue.

Posted by SlickyMike88

This makes me like superman, he did what batman could never do:P

Posted by MuyJingo

@muyjingo: Clark sees the good in us, Bruce only sees the bad. Clark represents hope, Bruce represents vengeance. Bruce admitted that if he had Superman's powers he would've done what Superman is doing long time ago.

Superman had to lose everything he holds near and dear for him to cross that line.

Clark > Bruce...always.

I don't know about that.

I think Bruce said something like he may well have done what Superman did with is powers, not that he would for sure. I just don't see how one is less than the other, morally.

If Joker nuked Gotham, do you think Batman would cross the line? An interesting question.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@muyjingo said:

@superguy1591 said:

@muyjingo: Clark sees the good in us, Bruce only sees the bad. Clark represents hope, Bruce represents vengeance. Bruce admitted that if he had Superman's powers he would've done what Superman is doing long time ago.

Superman had to lose everything he holds near and dear for him to cross that line.

Clark > Bruce...always.

I don't know about that.

I think Bruce said something like he may well have done what Superman did with is powers, not that he would for sure. I just don't see how one is less than the other, morally.

If Joker nuked Gotham, do you think Batman would cross the line? An interesting question.

Kudos for starting what will hopefully become an awesome conversation.

I'm sure this is a subject many will debate, but I do indeed think he would-- especially if his close allies were still there. He's almost crossed the line for less and I think such a huge tragedy would have a huge impact on any person. After all, he almost killed Joker when he was under the impression the villain killed one of his childhood friends (Tommy). It took Jim firing two warning shots and talking some sense into him to stop him. It's safe to say Jim wouldn't be around in this scenario. Assuming Superman or anyone else isn't around to literally interfere, I could see Batman going through with it after such a terrible event.

EDIT: Just for fun, I've asked Tom Taylor the question via Twitter.

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Posted by Saren

I think the artist is slacking off. There were some inconsistencies in earlier issues, but in this issue there's a scene where Shazam grabs Aquaman and it looks like his hand has gone through Arthur. I had to check it again before I saw that it was Aquaman's hand at a kinda weird angle.

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Edited by soloz

Alfred's jab at supes was awesome!

Posted by Mucklefluga

@k4tzm4n said:

@muyjingo said:

@superguy1591 said:

@muyjingo: Clark sees the good in us, Bruce only sees the bad. Clark represents hope, Bruce represents vengeance. Bruce admitted that if he had Superman's powers he would've done what Superman is doing long time ago.

Superman had to lose everything he holds near and dear for him to cross that line.

Clark > Bruce...always.

I don't know about that.

I think Bruce said something like he may well have done what Superman did with is powers, not that he would for sure. I just don't see how one is less than the other, morally.

If Joker nuked Gotham, do you think Batman would cross the line? An interesting question.

Kudos for starting what will hopefully become an awesome conversation.

I'm sure this is a subject many will debate, but I do indeed think he would-- especially if his close allies were still there. He's almost crossed the line for less and I think such a huge tragedy would have a huge impact on any person. After all, he almost killed Joker when he was under the impression the villain killed one of his childhood friends (Tommy). It took Jim firing two warning shots and talking some sense into him to stop him. It's safe to say Jim wouldn't be around in this scenario. Assuming Superman or anyone else isn't around to literally interfere, I could see Batman going through with it after such a terrible event.

EDIT: Just for fun, I've asked Tom Taylor the question via Twitter.

He'd kill The Joker, but how the heck does Joker get a nuke and operate it correctly ahaha.

Posted by LordRequiem

This whole Injustice story is just Marvel's Civil War but no one seems to have noticed that.

Posted by jointron33

@lordrequiem: You mean the story that Marvel ripped off of Kingdom Come?

Edited by SmashBrawler

Art aside (which wasn't that bad), this is my favorite issue so far.

Edited by MuyJingo

@k4tzm4n said:

Kudos for starting what will hopefully become an awesome conversation.

I'm sure this is a subject many will debate, but I do indeed think he would-- especially if his close allies were still there. He's almost crossed the line for less and I think such a huge tragedy would have a huge impact on any person. After all, he almost killed Joker when he was under the impression the villain killed one of his childhood friends (Tommy). It took Jim firing two warning shots and talking some sense into him to stop him. It's safe to say Jim wouldn't be around in this scenario. Assuming Superman or anyone else isn't around to literally interfere, I could see Batman going through with it after such a terrible event.

EDIT: Just for fun, I've asked Tom Taylor the question via Twitter.

Thanks.

It's hard to say in such extreme circumstances, and I certainly think it could be written in a believable way while being completely true to the character. I do wonder however if he would really push himself to that point....given how important it is to him...it is in some ways the very core of his being.

Do you really think he would have killed Joker in Hush if Gordon were not there? I think he may have beaten him to a pulp...I don't think he would have actually crossed the line though.

I'm not as familiar with Superman as I am with Batman. Are there any stores about Superman coming close to crossing the line, or having to be prevented from crossing the line ala Batman in Hush?

Edited by jasontodd7

Batman would never go this far..as the justice league is now heading.

Batman, beside Wonder Woman, is the only one that knows where this is heading..something that even Superman can't see right now.

To scare scumbags and corrupt politics is one thing, but instaurate a dictatorial regime is something that Batman will never do.

And Superman wouldn't either..i'm sure that Wonder Woman and someone else, maybe Luthor, will play a part in this.

Because as Bruce say it, he is a good man.

Posted by SNascimento

@jasontodd7: Yep, I have a similar view: check this post if can http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/is-wonder-woman-the-main-bad-guy-in-injustice-757408/

I talked a little about what I think WW is doing.

Posted by detective38

This issue was pretty good especially the conversation between clark and bruce. As far as the idea of bruce "crossing the line" come on people hasnt this question been answered in death in the family, killing joke, hush, and now death of the family? Batman doesn't kill. That ended in 1943 when DC editorial got squeamish about the message they were sending to kids. Beating to a pulp is one thing but killing? nah

Edited by ManlyScream

Wow, I keep hearing more and more about this game tie-in. I didn't even bother because of the dc universe online tie-in. I might have to pick up the first couple of issues now.