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Generation Hope #15 Review

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Hope, Scott and Emma have an argument. Hope's team has an argument with bad 90's heroes. Lots to love, right?

The Good

As someone who thinks the Hellfire Club has been consistently lame, I'll say that this issue is a good primer into why someone should care about their place in the X-Men history. The flashbacks to Shaw's atrocities at least say "care about him for this arc, or in this book. You won't have to put up with the rest of the other crap."

This issue also did a good job of explaining Emma Frost's stake in Shaw's return, and refreshes the readers as to, again, why they should care. As someone who dislikes Emma very much, I at least could see where she was coming from in worrying. I also may have liked Doctor Nemesis telling her that her only roles are "telepathy and [being a] clothes horse;" that's pretty much sums up my feelings toward her, too.

I like the introduction of No-Girl, as her character is unique enough that she should be able to contribute to the strength of the book. It'll be interesting to see where her symbiosis with Zero takes her.

The Bad

For some reason, I've felt like I've read the premise to this issue before. Oh wait: I have. Having Scott sitting across from an absurdly powerful mutant and have them arguing about something worked well once before, but this issue it just felt tiring and unnecessary.

Scott and Emma just seemed to be berating Hope for no reason, especially when she had no idea who Sebastian Shaw was, or what he had done.

The Verdict

This book was mediocre in most senses of the word: the art kind of just fell down a ravine in terms of quality after the first few pages, useless characters from the 90's showed up (Random was every referenced as a bad cliche in the book), and the major conflict was solved Hope flashing the almost-Phoenix Force, or what Marvel wants us to think is the Phoenix Force.

Protip: it was scary/awesome the first time, but the more times you whip it out, the less impressive it gets.

That's what she said.

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26 Comments
Posted by snyderman567

HaHaHa. Nice review Demers

Posted by King Quisling

Awesome, I actually dropped this today because the series was feeling pretty mediocre and always left me wanting something more. Good review dude.

Posted by djotaku

I agree that it wasn't as up to snuff as some of the previous issues were. But there is one thing I liked about this issue - it assured me that they hadn't forgotten Zero's quest to undermine Hope. Of course, they've promised before that he'd do something and he didn't. But whereas before it was all "we seem different around Hope" now we all know that she can control people.

Although I like some of the Five Lights, I do kinda hope this book ends with X-Men v Avengers and whatever happens to Hope.

Posted by Daycrawler

@djotaku said:

I agree that it wasn't as up to snuff as some of the previous issues were. But there is one thing I liked about this issue - it assured me that they hadn't forgotten Zero's quest to undermine Hope. Of course, they've promised before that he'd do something and he didn't. But whereas before it was all "we seem different around Hope" now we all know that she can control people.

Although I like some of the Five Lights, I do kinda hope this book ends with X-Men v Avengers and whatever happens to Hope.

This!

After AvX I want to see Zero working with the New Mutants and Transonic and Velocidad at Westchester. Not sure where Teon would go though.

Posted by Edgeworth_11

Are you guys serious? This book is so fun on many reasons. Asmus is doing a great job I say. It is great drama, humor, dialogue and action all rolled into a sexy sushi. Shame on you guys for trying to contribute to a book's downfall.

Edited by DATNIGGA

I liked it. atho the x men should really make use of all those mutants on utopia &...

''IF WE TURN ARE BACKS ON EVERYONE SHE'S HAD SEX WITH THERE WOULDNT BE A MAN ON EARTH LEFT TO SAVE'' Lmbo its so true

Posted by Cafeterialoca

Transonic is one of the best new characters for the X-men and I hope she's used much more in the future.

But I get the feeling she'll be canon fodder...

Posted by jcj145

One of the reasons they were berating Hope prolly has to do that when she became aware of the "new mutant" that was "active" she ignored orders and went after it even though she was directly told not to and to leave it alone

Posted by SebastianShawShank

Sebastian Shaw vs Namor..... Cant Wait.

Posted by madrid_san

@Edgeworth_11 said:

Are you guys serious? This book is so fun on many reasons. Asmus is doing a great job I say. It is great drama, humor, dialogue and action all rolled into a sexy sushi. Shame on you guys for trying to contribute to a book's downfall.

This.

Posted by ApatheticAvenger

Demers dislikes Emma, lame. :P

Posted by Mayo88m

@King Quisling said:

Awesome, I actually dropped this today because the series was feeling pretty mediocre and always left me wanting something more. Good review dude.

Yeah, I didn't pick up this issue either, pretty sure I won't be getting another issue for some time either.

Edited by The_Diamond_Prince

@Edgeworth_11: I agree. Asmus really gets the character's voices, and it's great to hear them all interact in their dysfunctional way. Was I the only one that enjoyed seeing the Hope, Cyclops, and Emma argument happening in the "costume" shop where there was a sewing machine visible. We forget about those little details haha. Also loving the Emma and Hope animosity. Fun series all around.

Posted by Whisper_

@DATNIGGA said:

''IF WE TURN ARE BACKS ON EVERYONE SHE'S HAD SEX WITH THERE WOULDNT BE A MAN ON EARTH LEFT TO SAVE'' Lmbo its so true

It's really not. Off the top of my head, there are five men she's slept with canonly. And one of them she's been in a relationship with for years and is for all intents and purposes, his wife.

The slut card being applied to Emma is getting old and tiresome. In addition, it's just sad and a reach, because it isn't accurate at all.

Posted by The_Diamond_Prince

@_Whisper_: Like anyone would consider that if they're trying to dis someone who dresses in a very specific way and is known for "stealing" someone else's husband....I love me some Emma, but it's an easy jab to make when in the heat of the moment...just sayin...At least she got one good slap in.

Posted by God_Spawn

@_Whisper_: Man from calling Emma a slut and flirting with Namor, you can't be too happy DH can you :P?

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Posted by Kallarkz

wow. So Shaw's now a good guy?

Posted by Saren

@_Whisper_ said:

@DATNIGGA said:

''IF WE TURN ARE BACKS ON EVERYONE SHE'S HAD SEX WITH THERE WOULDNT BE A MAN ON EARTH LEFT TO SAVE'' Lmbo its so true

It's really not. Off the top of my head, there are five men she's slept with canonly. And one of them she's been in a relationship with for years and is for all intents and purposes, his wife.

The slut card being applied to Emma is getting old and tiresome. In addition, it's just sad and a reach, because it isn't accurate at all.

True. But that slap was a thing of beauty.

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Posted by Whisper_

@Kallarkz said:

wow. So Shaw's now a good guy?

We'll see. There was a nature vs nurture thing mentioned. I have a feeling he's soon going to go back to his old ways.

@CitizenBane said:

@_Whisper_ said:

@DATNIGGA said:

''IF WE TURN ARE BACKS ON EVERYONE SHE'S HAD SEX WITH THERE WOULDNT BE A MAN ON EARTH LEFT TO SAVE'' Lmbo its so true

It's really not. Off the top of my head, there are five men she's slept with canonly. And one of them she's been in a relationship with for years and is for all intents and purposes, his wife.

The slut card being applied to Emma is getting old and tiresome. In addition, it's just sad and a reach, because it isn't accurate at all.

True. But that slap was a thing of beauty.

Agreed. Hope with her ever sanctimonious attitude had it coming.

Edited by DATNIGGA

@_Whisper_: ''The Hellfire Club is a centuries old organization with roots in Britain during the 18th Century. It's members were infamous rakes who used their connections within the club to further boost their social standing and to indulge their sexual excesses.''

now when you look at everyone of the female members there all dressed like a dominatrix so they most likely had orgies or as this quote clearly points out they had lots of sex with each other & it was also noted during that time in spider island when Hercules was doing it with the spider goddess. emma stated that they would've had to pay top dollor for a sexual performance like this.

I like emma but shes the white queen of a club were powerful people come together to do it & has live sexual performances combine that with the revealing nature of her clothes & its obvious thats shes been around the block a few times lol

Posted by FadeToBlackBolt
@_Whisper_ said:

@DATNIGGA said:

''IF WE TURN ARE BACKS ON EVERYONE SHE'S HAD SEX WITH THERE WOULDNT BE A MAN ON EARTH LEFT TO SAVE'' Lmbo its so true

It's really not. Off the top of my head, there are five men she's slept with canonly. And one of them she's been in a relationship with for years and is for all intents and purposes, his wife.

The slut card being applied to Emma is getting old and tiresome. In addition, it's just sad and a reach, because it isn't accurate at all.

She's slept with Cyke and Shaw, who else?  
 
Stark is non-canon.
Posted by Edgeworth_11

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@_Whisper_ said:

@DATNIGGA said:

''IF WE TURN ARE BACKS ON EVERYONE SHE'S HAD SEX WITH THERE WOULDNT BE A MAN ON EARTH LEFT TO SAVE'' Lmbo its so true

It's really not. Off the top of my head, there are five men she's slept with canonly. And one of them she's been in a relationship with for years and is for all intents and purposes, his wife.

The slut card being applied to Emma is getting old and tiresome. In addition, it's just sad and a reach, because it isn't accurate at all.

She's slept with Cyke and Shaw, who else? Stark is non-canon.

Probably a bunch of nobodies.

Either way, no one can deny this is a fun series and Asmus deserves a long run.

Posted by Rowen545

@Kallarkz said:

wow. So Shaw's now a good guy?

Yeah Cyclops continues to form his own Brotherhood that Wolverine and the X-Men will have to take down

Posted by Dernman

@Edgeworth_11: @Cafeterialoca: @madrid_san: I think Gen Hope is a great book. I don't know why it doesn't get more love and receives so much hate.

All the characters a great IMO. Even Zero who I don't like serves a purpose by betraying the team and becoming a villain. At least I hope he does then I might like him.

Posted by djotaku

@Daycrawler: Teon goes to terrify the girls of Westchester, of course. (Then again, he could stay in Utopia to keep bugging The Cuckoos)

Posted by Daycrawler

@djotaku said:

@Daycrawler: Teon goes to terrify the girls of Westchester, of course. (Then again, he could stay in Utopia to keep bugging The Cuckoos)

Lol! Teon's secondary mutation is to be a scary sex pest!