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Cataclysm: The Ultimates' Last Stand #3 - Part Three Review

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Ultimate Reed Richards and Miles Morales head to the 616 universe!

The Good

Miles Morales and Ultimate Reed Richards (you know, the super-evil one) head to the 616 universe to gain some knowledge on the giant purple planet eater we know as Galactus.

It's great seeing Ultimate Reed Richards back with the good guys, although he makes one amazing villain. It's great to see him drop his ego for a bit to help out because without everyone working together, Ultimate Earth becomes an entree for Galactus. However, while Reed is trying to regain the trust of everyone around him, but there's a few folks who simply don't trust him, for good reason. In fact, Iron Man pulls Miles aside to give him a little something, just in case Reed gets out of line.

Bendis does a fine job with the dialogue between the characters as well. The conversations flow smoothly, and there's a great seriousness to everything the characters are saying. Bendis has a tendency to be a tiny bit comical, at times, which is fine, but he keeps everything on the straight and narrow here.

The star of this issue is really Mark Bagley's art, with Andrew Hennessy on inks, and Jason Keith on colors. Bagley's page set-ups look great here. He really has a special way of bringing the reader into a scene and establishing the world the characters are in. That final page is fantastic as the world bends under the power of Galactus.

The Bad

This issue feels so short. There's even a few repeat pages within it. This story could have easily been slimmed down and moved into another issue rather than having it on its own. Frankly, this really feels like filler. Not much really happens here that warrants a full 20 pages. Miles and Reed go to the 616, find out who Galactus is, and Miles and Reed head back to the Ultimate Universe. That's the whole issue, and it really moves that fast when you read it.

It really just is a problem with pacing as well as a problem with not having enough happening in a book to fill it out. There's even a couple "why is this in here" moments, like when 616 Spider-Man is just randomly swinging by and Miles shouts "Dude, I am so sorry" because the HERBIEs start attacking him.

The Verdict

CATACLYSM: LAST STAND #3 is a really good 8 page story, dragged on for 20 pages. This issue really missed its mark. The overall story has been very good, and this issue moves the story forward, but not at the pace of everything else. The issue feels like filler. This has been the weakest issue of the story thus far, so if you're already reading it, pick it up, otherwise this is a mild recommendation which you could easily skip.

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Posted by thenexusrebound

I agree this seemed very much like filler. It feels like the story started, they found Galactus info and it was over. For all of the talk about going to 616 it felt over before it started. I guess with another issue coming this month maybe it will move the story along.

Posted by Teerack

it would be pretty amazing if marvel had the balls to have galactus win and actually eat everyone.

Edited by Master_Thief

@teerack: or have galactus win and have miles morales trapped at earth 616 since thats what it looks like on his twitter feed

Edited by GrenadeFlow

I thought Reed was going to be trapped in the 616 for a second

Posted by danhimself

so THIS was supposed to be Spider-men 2?????? What is the point in having them go to the 616 if the only character that they're going to have any kind of interaction with is Valeria???? I'm so disappointed.....Bendis says that there's some sort of news pertaining to the UU coming Friday so it had better be good!

Edited by ZbvmX

I'd be happy even if just one ultimate universe character becomes part of 616. If Galactus gets to win and change status quo in this side of the Marvel multiverse, it'll probably blow my mind. Anyways I'm still enjoying the ride so far, so the destination really doesn't matter as much.

Posted by zodac

So I was just flipping through Marvel's release calender on their website. I got to the week of Feb 9-15 and I see "Ultimate Comics Ultimates #35" listed, the following week, Feb 16-22, has "Ultimate Comics Spider-man #32" listed. I don't think either of these were in the Feb solicitations from a couple months ago...

Posted by Rixec

Filler? Please. This offers some of our UU characters a glimpse of how their main counterparts have kept their lives in order and make them think how they could have done better. It also opens up potential for other crossovers based on little things here. If UFF go back how do they deal with the happy family there? If USM goes back and if he apologizes to SpOck for the HERBIEs (which was hilarious) would SpOck punch him for it, thus leading Miles to think that something is wrong with Peter? And if they all do survive how will their lives change back home from what they have seen? Reed knows what he could have had if he didn't lose it. This so called filler offers up so much potential.

Posted by GrenadeFlow

@rixec said:

Filler? Please. This offers some of our UU characters a glimpse of how their main counterparts have kept their lives in order and make them think how they could have done better. It also opens up potential for other crossovers based on little things here. If UFF go back how do they deal with the happy family there? If USM goes back and if he apologizes to SpOck for the HERBIEs (which was hilarious) would SpOck punch him for it, thus leading Miles to think that something is wrong with Peter? And if they all do survive how will their lives change back home from what they have seen? Reed knows what he could have had if he didn't lose it. This so called filler offers up so much potential.

Yeah that Spock panel was hilarious lmao

Edited by danhimself

@rixec said:

Filler? Please. This offers some of our UU characters a glimpse of how their main counterparts have kept their lives in order and make them think how they could have done better. It also opens up potential for other crossovers based on little things here. If UFF go back how do they deal with the happy family there? If USM goes back and if he apologizes to SpOck for the HERBIEs (which was hilarious) would SpOck punch him for it, thus leading Miles to think that something is wrong with Peter? And if they all do survive how will their lives change back home from what they have seen? Reed knows what he could have had if he didn't lose it. This so called filler offers up so much potential.

Bendis himself compared this issue to Spider-men..saying that this was in essence Spider-men 2....such a load! The single greatest thing about Spider-men was Peter interacting with Gwen and Aunt May and the emotions of seeing how things could be....this offered nothing other than the bad characterization of Reed seeing the pictures hanging on the wall and a 5 second interaction with Valeria and then supposedly changing his ways....Reed was never evil in the first place....everything he's done since Ultimatum was done at the direction of Sue from the future and together they were doing whatever was necessary to make the Infinity Gems emerge earlier than they did in Sue's time so that they had a chance of defeating Galactus...so having Reed "change his ways" based on a picture and 5 seconds of interaction with Valeria was absolutely pointless

Posted by Rixec

@rixec said:

Filler? Please. This offers some of our UU characters a glimpse of how their main counterparts have kept their lives in order and make them think how they could have done better. It also opens up potential for other crossovers based on little things here. If UFF go back how do they deal with the happy family there? If USM goes back and if he apologizes to SpOck for the HERBIEs (which was hilarious) would SpOck punch him for it, thus leading Miles to think that something is wrong with Peter? And if they all do survive how will their lives change back home from what they have seen? Reed knows what he could have had if he didn't lose it. This so called filler offers up so much potential.

Bendis himself compared this issue to Spider-men..saying that this was in essence Spider-men 2....such a load! The single greatest thing about Spider-men was Peter interacting with Gwen and Aunt May and the emotions of seeing how things could be....this offered nothing other than the bad characterization of Reed seeing the pictures hanging on the wall and a 5 second interaction with Valeria and then supposedly changing his ways....Reed was never evil in the first place....everything he's done since Ultimatum was done at the direction of Sue from the future and together they were doing whatever was necessary to make the Infinity Gems emerge earlier than they did in Sue's time so that they had a chance of defeating Galactus...so having Reed "change his ways" based on a picture and 5 seconds of interaction with Valeria was absolutely pointless

You do realize the word "essence" means most important ingredient or crucial part, yes? So that(those) scene(s) we saw could be seed plotting for Spider-Men 2 rather than Cataclysm #3 being Spider-Men 2.

And Reed changing based on what happened in 616 was not pointless. He's been shown what his life could have been had be not not everything that's happened since Ultimatum. And this is all happening as the world is being eaten. All that places huge loads on people and it has forced Reed to seriously view his life up until that point.

Posted by danhimself

@rixec said:

@danhimself said:

@rixec said:

Filler? Please. This offers some of our UU characters a glimpse of how their main counterparts have kept their lives in order and make them think how they could have done better. It also opens up potential for other crossovers based on little things here. If UFF go back how do they deal with the happy family there? If USM goes back and if he apologizes to SpOck for the HERBIEs (which was hilarious) would SpOck punch him for it, thus leading Miles to think that something is wrong with Peter? And if they all do survive how will their lives change back home from what they have seen? Reed knows what he could have had if he didn't lose it. This so called filler offers up so much potential.

Bendis himself compared this issue to Spider-men..saying that this was in essence Spider-men 2....such a load! The single greatest thing about Spider-men was Peter interacting with Gwen and Aunt May and the emotions of seeing how things could be....this offered nothing other than the bad characterization of Reed seeing the pictures hanging on the wall and a 5 second interaction with Valeria and then supposedly changing his ways....Reed was never evil in the first place....everything he's done since Ultimatum was done at the direction of Sue from the future and together they were doing whatever was necessary to make the Infinity Gems emerge earlier than they did in Sue's time so that they had a chance of defeating Galactus...so having Reed "change his ways" based on a picture and 5 seconds of interaction with Valeria was absolutely pointless

You do realize the word "essence" means most important ingredient or crucial part, yes? So that(those) scene(s) we saw could be seed plotting for Spider-Men 2 rather than Cataclysm #3 being Spider-Men 2.

And Reed changing based on what happened in 616 was not pointless. He's been shown what his life could have been had be not not everything that's happened since Ultimatum. And this is all happening as the world is being eaten. All that places huge loads on people and it has forced Reed to seriously view his life up until that point.

but if this is the end of the Ultimate Universe then what does any of that future seeding do? Nothing? if this does indeed destroy the UU then Reed Richards sure as heck isn't going to survive

and yes everything he did after Ultimatum was at the command of Future Sue...her arriving was what blew up his house in Ultimate Enemy #1

Posted by micah

Well I was reading this series with a sad face but now I can enjoy it, because apparently the Ultimate Universe I being re-launched again in April

Posted by Rixec

@rixec said:

@danhimself said:

@rixec said:

Filler? Please. This offers some of our UU characters a glimpse of how their main counterparts have kept their lives in order and make them think how they could have done better. It also opens up potential for other crossovers based on little things here. If UFF go back how do they deal with the happy family there? If USM goes back and if he apologizes to SpOck for the HERBIEs (which was hilarious) would SpOck punch him for it, thus leading Miles to think that something is wrong with Peter? And if they all do survive how will their lives change back home from what they have seen? Reed knows what he could have had if he didn't lose it. This so called filler offers up so much potential.

Bendis himself compared this issue to Spider-men..saying that this was in essence Spider-men 2....such a load! The single greatest thing about Spider-men was Peter interacting with Gwen and Aunt May and the emotions of seeing how things could be....this offered nothing other than the bad characterization of Reed seeing the pictures hanging on the wall and a 5 second interaction with Valeria and then supposedly changing his ways....Reed was never evil in the first place....everything he's done since Ultimatum was done at the direction of Sue from the future and together they were doing whatever was necessary to make the Infinity Gems emerge earlier than they did in Sue's time so that they had a chance of defeating Galactus...so having Reed "change his ways" based on a picture and 5 seconds of interaction with Valeria was absolutely pointless

You do realize the word "essence" means most important ingredient or crucial part, yes? So that(those) scene(s) we saw could be seed plotting for Spider-Men 2 rather than Cataclysm #3 being Spider-Men 2.

And Reed changing based on what happened in 616 was not pointless. He's been shown what his life could have been had be not not everything that's happened since Ultimatum. And this is all happening as the world is being eaten. All that places huge loads on people and it has forced Reed to seriously view his life up until that point.

but if this is the end of the Ultimate Universe then what does any of that future seeding do? Nothing? if this does indeed destroy the UU then Reed Richards sure as heck isn't going to survive

and yes everything he did after Ultimatum was at the command of Future Sue...her arriving was what blew up his house in Ultimate Enemy #1

The end of the UU hasn't been proven yet! It could very well be relaunch with them trying to rebuild to make it better, like what Miles and Reed saw in 616. That's a goal for them to work for if they don't all die. It'd be interesting to see if they could succeed in that or not.

Also, while Reed did do all that under Sue's orders he still had his own choice in the matter. He could have said no. Who knows where things could have gone if he said no.

Posted by micah

@rixec: The UU is supposed to be re-launched in April

Posted by spacemanspiff85

I'm so tired of stories starting in the middle, and then going back to show what's led up to that. It seems like every other comic I've read does that, and it's never anything more than annoying to me. I think it's just a ploy to have each issue start with something wild, to hook people in.

Posted by Pokergeist

My god, Ultimate Reed is the best Villain in Marvel since Dr. Doom himself.

He would make for a GREAT villain of Thanos caliber in 616 Universe.

Edited by JeanRalphio

How the fxck was this rated 3 stars?