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Batman #25 - Zero Year: Dark City, Part Two Review

5

Zero Year is far from over. Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo continue the second act of Batman's early days. Be prepared because you might not get a chance to catch your breath.

The Good

Who would have thought journeying back to Batman's early days could be this much fun? We know Batman's origin and how he started out. Despite this fact, Scott Snyder is making this time period fun and exciting. Even though it's a familiar time, we're seeing that there is still so much we don't know. Snyder may be making little tweaks here and there but it all feels fresh and exciting.

With his fight against the Red Hood Gang over, we're seeing the next stage in his career. Riddler has attacked Gotham City and while Bruce tries to get to the bottom of that problem, we're seeing there is much more going on. From the peculiar open pages to the new (old) threat Batman is faced with, there's a lot going on. We get to see some more cool 'first moments' in Gotham and you'll want to pay close attention to a conversation between Bruce and Jim Gordon. There is definitely something going on there.

Greg Capullo, Danny Miki and FCO Plascencia provide the fancy and shiny wrapping paper over the story. Not to knock other creators but try to imagine this story's art handled by another creative team. You almost can't or simply don't want to.

Reading this issue, you can feel yourself being enwrapped in a Batman cocoon. The other Bat-titles are fun and important but you can let yourself get sucked in and not have to worry about anything else.

There's a pretty crazy ending plus a cool backup by James Tynion IV, Snyder and Andy Clarke.

The Bad

No complaints. This is the title I was most looking forward to and I can't wait to see what happens in this second act.

The Verdict

Scott Snyder's journey through Batman's memory lane continues. Zero Year shows there are still moments from Batman's early days we might not be aware of plus the fact that tweaking other moments serves to strengthen the mythos. With Greg Capullo on art and FCO Plascencia on colors, everything looks amazing. We get to see some things and people for the "first time" and revisiting the past has never been so much fun. We are also trated to a cool back up by Snyder, James Tynion IV and Andy Clarke. Zero Year is not over and I couldn't be happier. Zero Year continues to be a must-read for Bat-fans.

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Posted by Cap10nate

@g_man

Is the information in that conversation between Bruce and Gordon already part of the Batman mythos or is that completely new?

Good issue all around.

Posted by cerial442

Can't believe they charged an extra dollar just because of the cover. Oh wait....it's DC.

Edited by cobra88king8

@cerial442: Don't know if it's because of the cover, it's the same price digital as well

On another note were the words on the helmet on the end of any significance?

Posted by Dark_Guyver

Glad I'm not the only one confused on why this was 5 bucks. Did it have extra content?

Edited by manwithoutshame

5/5, This issue was somehow both fun and creepy at the same time.

Posted by CaptainGenisVell

I just re-read this series to catch up, and completely forgot that The Riddler's city take over had been shown in the first issue of Zero Year.

Posted by fallbrigade

@cerial442: Don't know if it's because of the cover, it's the same price digital as well

On another note were the words on the helmet on the end of any significance?

That's what I'd like to know... I feel like it's suppose to have some significance, but I can't think of what that might be.

Posted by PunyParker

No surprise there.Snyder.

Edited by PunyParker

I just re-read this series to catch up, and completely forgot that The Riddler's city take over had been shown in the first issue of Zero Year.

I recently re-read the Court of Owls just to be astounded one more time.

Posted by BR_Havoc

They raised the price an extra buck because this is DC's best selling title and it will make them look better once the month ends. Just like last month they will have the highest profit of all the other companies but they will not have the market share that normally goes Marvel's way.

Posted by War Killer

I enjoyed this issue and loved all of the little glimpse into the early days of these characters, but this issue felt very disconnected from where the previous issue left off. Last issue we were left with Riddler having crippled Gotham with a city-wide blackout and left the city to fend for itself, and while we do see that, the whole storyline with this "Dr. Death" felt very random. I was hoping we'd see more focus on Batman dealing with the Riddler, racing against time to stop Riddler's plan before he can cause even more chaos, but instead we have Batman dealing with a completely different villain and only get a mention of Riddler.

Now I'm not really annoyed by this, so don't get me wrong, as I'm sure this will somehow tie into the main storyline as the story continues, but I couldn't help but feel like it was a bit random. It was great to see the little interactions with Bruce and Gordon, I'm curious as to where Snyder is going with Gordon's connection to the death of Bruce's parents. I also liked seeing Batman deal with the police, it was fun to see and reminded me of the chase-scene from Batman Begins. xD

Edited by deadpool25mm
Posted by cerial442

@deadpool25mm: It's glossy and embossed. It's the same cover as 21, but black. Because of the blackout.

It maybe DC's best selling book, but still annoying with the price increases. The last issue was $6.99 (although did feature more pages), but still.

Edited by Mars8254

How many issues are in zero year for Batman, and also these prices are stupid. Ill buy it but i can live without the special covers.

Edited by MadeinBangladesh

why the hell was this $4.99? -__- Anyway, so far Zero Year has been dissapointing for me. I hope this second part is great.

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Edited by kaiklown

I am loving the variant cover. Blimps looking like a skull. So good.

Posted by LordoftheNorth

I know everone already said it but why the heck is the price so high i just dont see the value

the story felt a little weird i mean i why did they release all the zero year tie ins this month when the storm dosnt even hit gotham until next month

I really dont like that bruce hates gordan he seemed fine with him during the 0 issue but now out of no where he hates Gordan and i can already tell that its going to be forced as hell

and whats up with the cave isnt it under the house why is it in th middle of his yard and look more like he dug a hole in the ground

And as for the soldiers i am guessing it has to do with Ra's he's the only villain i know of batmans that has anything to do with the dessert

Posted by deadpool25mm

@cerial442: Okay, They trying to make money. They know people will still buy it for the extra dollar price. + Having the same cover like issue #21 saves them money for creating a new one and yet still charge +1$. smart way to make money lol.

Posted by Wilbertus

Okay, I did in fact enjoy the story and there were some pretty cool moments in there. Especially when Lucius stabbed Bruce at the end. However, where was Riddler in this issue?! I expected to see more of the actual blackout. Except for characters mentioning it, I didn't really get the feeling there was a blackout at all. A shame, but maybe that is just because I didn't get what I expected or thought was reasonable to expect from this issue.

Edited by feedonatreefrog

The price is high because people are willing to pay that much.

Duh.

Posted by Gotham331

What's marvel charging these days?

Posted by DrellAssassin

@cap10nate: I too was curious about this part. Is this something that I should know, or are they referring to something that has yet to be explained?

Posted by cerial442
Edited by TheMantisShrimp

@cerial442, the cover price is pretty lame. But I don't think its just the cover, a lot of 3.99 titles have no longer have backups, also super lame, and seem to run in under 24 pages. This book had 29 pages which I think is part of the extra buck. If you look back at some older issues of John's Justice League some of them had over 30 pages at 3.99, now it seems like we can't even get 25 pages for that. On the plus side DC seems to have more 2.99 titles than marvel.

Posted by comicbookfan93

@wilbertus: he injects him with that serum I thought

Edited by cerial442

@themantisshrimp: it was longer than a regular issue it was 40 pages. But it was the same length has issue 21, and that was a $3.99 price tag.

The only thing different about this issue is the cover is fancier. It's the same thing DC did for Villains month, only then we got a choice. It would have been nice to have a choice here.

They are also raising the price of The Wake next week to $3.99. It appears to have nothing extra.

Edited by Dud317

@cerial442: there seems to be some contradiction about The Wake #5. Comiclist has it at $3.99 like you said, but Vertigo has it at $2.99, noting 32 pages. However, Bleeding Cool has commented that it will be a 25 page story, with expanded content, sketch material, and more.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/10/23/batwoman-25-and-the-wake-5-to-increase-in-size-and-price/

These glossy / embossed covers, etc must be considered viable enough to keep doing them, even at a rate increase or a page count drop.

On another note, they should have a few extra bucks lying around after seeing the Lego Marvel ad in the DC books thus month.

Posted by cerial442

@dud317: So it might (depending where to believe) be like one of those director's cut books. What the heck Scott Synder?!

Posted by spinningbirdcake

@kaiklown said:

I am loving the variant cover. Blimps looking like a skull. So good.

Okay, for all the people that have been throwing the word around lately, this is using negative space. You're not using negative space unless the places you don't draw create an image. In this case it's a skull.

Posted by Owie

@kaiklown said:

I am loving the variant cover. Blimps looking like a skull. So good.

Okay, for all the people that have been throwing the word around lately, this is using negative space. You're not using negative space unless the places you don't draw create an image. In this case it's a skull.

Well no, that's not true. Negative space is simply what's left over from the positive space, and interesting or well-used negative space does not at all have to be representational (like drawing a skull). Well-used negative space just has to have interesting compositional characteristics (cool use of shape or color or balance or contrast, etc.), or create an interesting tension within the rest of the composition. In other words, negative space is defined compositionally, not representationally.

In any case, this issue was awesome all around. A true 5-star book.

Edited by Chewblocka

I really thought this issue was the weakest of the Zero Year so far.

IMO the new (old) batmobile sucked. The starting tunnel sequence was stupid and I felt like the story didnt move forward that much :/

Posted by TDK_1997

I enjoyed this issue and loved all of the little glimpse into the early days of these characters, but this issue felt very disconnected from where the previous issue left off. Last issue we were left with Riddler having crippled Gotham with a city-wide blackout and left the city to fend for itself, and while we do see that, the whole storyline with this "Dr. Death" felt very random. I was hoping we'd see more focus on Batman dealing with the Riddler, racing against time to stop Riddler's plan before he can cause even more chaos, but instead we have Batman dealing with a completely different villain and only get a mention of Riddler.

Now I'm not really annoyed by this, so don't get me wrong, as I'm sure this will somehow tie into the main storyline as the story continues, but I couldn't help but feel like it was a bit random. It was great to see the little interactions with Bruce and Gordon, I'm curious as to where Snyder is going with Gordon's connection to the death of Bruce's parents. I also liked seeing Batman deal with the police, it was fun to see and reminded me of the chase-scene from Batman Begins. xD

This describes my thoughts so very well.

Posted by iaconpoint

@spinningbirdcake: So? If wishes and but's were candy and nuts... Let's move on to something more important if in fact there is anything.

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Edited by MadeinBangladesh

@madeinbangladesh: how is zero year disappointing to you?

I just can't get into the story. It is kindof uninteresting compared to what Snyder was doing with Court of Owls and Joker.

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Posted by knightofthechronicle

Hey @g_man, check out the Riddler scene from issue 21 and then check out the last scene from this issue. I think the helmet's pretty significant.

Posted by mickeymayhew

where was the Riddler?!