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Avengers Vs. X-Men #7 - Round 7 Review

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The series has definitely taken a turn as this no longer feels like a balanced fight. This could be the beginning of a major change in the Marvel Universe.

The Good

The first half of this twelve-issue series started becoming a let down. It was exciting at first to see all the major heroes clashing with each other. Due to the abundance and scope of the story, we soon became inundated with tiny glimpses of these battles and had to rely on the side series in order to actually see those fights take place. With the Phoenix Force being shattered into five fragments and members of the X-Men gaining the power (becoming the Phoenix Five) has turned the war on its side.

Cyclops and the others have decided to use their power to 'save the world.' Despite their actions, the Avengers are not content to just sit back and accept everything will be fine. This has resulted in the Avengers being hunted down and imprisoned. What was once the Avengers trying to assert their authority over the X-Men has turned into the Avengers scrambling to fight for their lives and possibly the fate of the world.

We've been getting lots of 'speeches' from Cyclops and in talking to the other members of the Phoenix Five over the threat of the Avengers, specifically Scarlet Witch, it's almost scary. This is the first time I've truly felt this may be more than just an event story with a lot of action. The news of the upcoming "Marvel Now" initiative which will relaunch series and apparently bring others backs feels like this could have a Flashpoint-style ending. I am not saying that is being laid out here or that this story is trying to mimic DC's style but with the power of the Phoenix Force along with Scarlet Witch's presence, you can't help but wonder if this is indeed leading up to having major things changed as a result.

How great is Olivier Coipel's art? It is fitting that with the series taking such a drastic turn from the first half, we have art that has a completely different feel. The combination of Coipel's art with the current events gives the story a sharper and harder edge. When Scarlet Witch stands on the page, Coipel makes her an extremely imposing figure. Knowing what she's done in the past along with the Phoenix Force thrown in amps up the story.

There's some great scenes between Scarlet Witch and Magik, Emma Frost and Namor as well as Captain America just being his normal ultra cool self as the leader of the opposing team.

The Bad

How come Hawkeye always has to suffer in major crossovers?

Cyclops' speeches are getting more extreme. It's due to the Phoenix Force's presence but you have to wonder how Cyclops will walk away from this at the end of the story.

I always feel Fraction writes a different Tony Stark when he's not appearing in INVINCIBLE IRON MAN. There's no question of how firm a grasp Fraction has on the character but for him to get to a point where Black Panther is forced to take a certain action against him felt a little odd. I felt the same way at times during FEAR ITSELF.

The Verdict

I'm finding myself getting glued to this series. There was excitement when the first issue came out but soon we were overwhelmed with the feeling that not a lot was actually happening. Now that five members of the X-Men have a portion of the Phoenix Force, it's a whole new game. The Avengers are being hunted and imprisoned. Of course with Captain America leading the underdogs and Scarlet Witch on hand keeps the excitement elevated. On a sort of unrelated note, with the announcement of "Marvel Now," where there'll new jumping on points, etc, you can't help but wonder if events from this story will lead to that. This is what we've been waiting for in this series. There is major poop getting thrown at the fan. If you're going to have a major crossover with a lot of hype, it's great to see some pay off. I'm back on board with AvX and can't wait to see what's going to happen next.

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Posted by doordoor123

I dislike Fraction and I dislike his writing. I'm tired of these crossovers that are obviously not well thought-out.

It is almost like they know how it is going to end, but decide to drag out the ending as long as they can.

Posted by JohnnyGat

Okay I finally can say that I consider this event from terrible to okay.

Posted by G-Man

I really like the idea of the Avengers being on the run and Cap rallying everyone together. I also absolutely love Scarlet Witch. She has the potential to really eff things up.

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Posted by KainScion

this has been a great issue. i read each pannel with the utmost interest and found myself wanting more and more until it ended and i was like only 2 weeks. i can swing that. stuff is really happening. buy it.

Posted by feargalr

The series is actually pretty good now, but it's like.. the X-men have pretty much been bad guys for the whole series :/ Not too crazy bout that, I'd like if the avengers were slightly more vilified at the beginning (or maybe the X-men made more sympathetic) for act one and now it's the other way around or something.

Edited by Hareil0079

@G-Man said:

I really like the idea of the Avengers being on the run and Cap rallying everyone together. I also absolutely love Scarlet Witch. She has the potential to really eff things up.

Yea, I agree mostly I just dont like caps attitude that's all.

@JohnnyGat said:

Okay I finally can say that I consider this event from terrible to okay.

Most definitely! But I'm still taking an Objective standpoint/ Point Of View

Posted by Inverno

I am with the Avengers

I am with the X-Men

Do we have I don't care option like we had on Civil War?

Or we are all fd up when the Hulk gets back.

Posted by Bathos1

I have to admit the artwork is great, the action sequences look great and the character design seems good on the most part but, theres always a but, i don't like the age reversal of hope, to me the scenes she was in makes her seem like a schoolgirl to early teen, yet in the run up till now she appeared mid teen to possibly early adult, im sure its down to the choice of clothes but still throws even more confusion over her age.

The issue as a whole however is good and i feel like its building overall, similarly however i wonder how cyclops is going to walk away from this...

Edited by Sleepbutnodream15

@feargalr: it kinda feels like the Avengers were the bad guys during the last issue and parts of this one. In the last issue, it almost felt they were trying to stop the X-Men just because they didn't want them to be seen as top dogs, as opposed their alleged reason of wanting to have checks and balances/not thinking the phoenix could be controlled.

Posted by Mucklefluga

I'm still not gonna get any of this series.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

Phoenixpoint? 

Posted by KainScion

@Mucklefluga said:

I'm still not gonna get any of this series.

do you hear that? those are people not caring.

Posted by jcbart

@Bathos1: Coipel has a tendency to draw non-adult characters as children. However, at least it's not big-breasted-looks-as-buxom-as-Rogue Hope we've been seeing by other artists!

Posted by Bestostero

I still don't think this event was good at all! they ruined the phoenix force, and i still call shenanigans on some of the matchups and results. i havent been impressed with this storyline, nothing really wowed me yet.

Posted by KainScion

@Bestostero: quickly somebody call marvel!! bestostero isnt wowed!!!

Posted by Cafeterialoca

Am i the only one who is super scared for Transonic now?

Because she really, really doesn't deserve a grizzly fate. Especially compared to most of the heroes in this event.

Posted by hortrorog

@KainScion: your talk, i like it. anotheeer

Posted by KainScion

@Cafeterialoca: yes you are. beloved hawkeye was done extra crispy. she can die for all i care. HAMMER TIME!. she's the bitchiest and most annoying of the bunch anyway.

Posted by Kallarkz

Isn't this a comic book forum? I imagine people could come here and discuss whether or not they liked the issue or not without having to constantly receive sarcastic comments in return. If marvel would give these books out for free from the kindness of their hearts I would tell people to be grateful. But this is a service of entertainment like any other that we pay for (a tad more than we should at times) and as consumers we have the right to review and critique this service as well as expect a certain level of enjoyment. Read previous comments if you are not sure who this is for.

Posted by Sleepbutnodream15

@KainScion said:

@Mucklefluga said:

I'm still not gonna get any of this series.

do you hear that? those are people not caring.

Posted by Sleepbutnodream15

@KainScion: @Cafeterialoca: Why would the Avengers kill her? You think Cap would let em do that?

And Hawkeye isn't dead. They said that in the issue. Cyclops was healing him after Emma toasted him. Namor wanted him killed though.

Posted by pspin

@Cafeterialoca said:

Am i the only one who is super scared for Transonic now?

Because she really, really doesn't deserve a grizzly fate. Especially compared to most of the heroes in this event.

Yeah she was the only character not to get an arc in Generation Hope and her character is almost totally unexplored, if she dies or gets really hurt I am going to be pissed.

Overall though, I am really liking the direction the series has gone in, it is actually pretty good.

@KainScion said:

@Cafeterialoca: yes you are. beloved hawkeye was done extra crispy. she can die for all i care. HAMMER TIME!. she's the bitchiest and most annoying of the bunch anyway.

Hawkeye is suffering from Wolverine Syndrome so pick up any other big Marvel book and he will be there so you can get your fix.

Posted by Sleepbutnodream15

Damn, there's no changing opinions about this event anymore for a lot of people. I thought issues 2-5 were pretty weak, but 1 was solid, and I thought 6+7 were awesome. Maybe if Marvel didn't hype this up as much they did, more people would like. But like I said, these last 2 issues were pretty exciting.

Posted by VIN31

Why they bring back the Vision??From the day he came back is a boxing bag to everyone!!First was Osborn,next was Captain Marvel(in secret Avengers) and now Havok and Polaris!!He was powerful and one of the best Avengers ever!!why they make him like a puppet?

Posted by Outside_85

I have to say I did like the little moment when Wanda tells a certain insufferable someone else to take Phoenix-hike.

Posted by Daycrawler

@Sleepbutnodream15 said:

Damn, there's no changing opinions about this event anymore for a lot of people. I thought issues 2-5 were pretty weak, but 1 was solid, and I thought 6+7 were awesome. Maybe if Marvel didn't hype this up as much they did, more people would like. But like I said, these last 2 issues were pretty exciting.

I have been loving this entire event, but I can see where you (and others) are coming from re: some issues being a bit weak.

However, I think that's been balanced out by some of the really strong/focused tie-in issues (especially the X-Men ones & Secret Avengers). I think it'll be interesting when everything comes out in trade that can be read in the right order and in single / a few sittings.

Posted by Sleepbutnodream15

@Cafeterialoca: It's also kinda interesting that they captured her too, because she's kinda Hope's best friend, and now they're in the same place.

Edited by GreenFuse

This event has gone from a joke to pretty exciting. The scenes with Magik, Emma, and Namor (vs Scarlet Witch) were sick. Loved the artwork.

Although I'm loving the Phoenix Five (I wish they'd become a permanent thing actually...just tone them down lol) I'm not liking how they're twisting the Phoenix lore. The fact that Stark just whips up a Phoenix Buster suit is ridiculous. All this stuff with Iron Fist and the Scarlet Witch being connected to the PF...not liking it.

I'm rooting for the X-Men. Never been into the Avengers so they can burn. They've had a big movie. That's enough :)

Posted by Cafeterialoca

@KainScion said:

@Cafeterialoca: yes you are. beloved hawkeye was done extra crispy. she can die for all i care. HAMMER TIME!. she's the bitchiest and most annoying of the bunch anyway.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?! HOW?!

Posted by Mucklefluga

@KainScion: You have contradicted yourself by replying which in itself is caring.

Posted by AgeofHurricane

@Cafeterialoca said:

Am i the only one who is super scared for Transonic now?

Because she really, really doesn't deserve a grizzly fate. Especially compared to most of the heroes in this event.

I'm scared for her too.

Posted by KainScion

@Cafeterialoca said:

@KainScion said:

@Cafeterialoca: yes you are. beloved hawkeye was done extra crispy. she can die for all i care. HAMMER TIME!. she's the bitchiest and most annoying of the bunch anyway.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?! HOW?!

generation x has been a huge letdown.

Posted by ThanosIsMad

This was the worst issue since the book started. Everything was disjointed and unfocused. Issue 6 was the only bright spot in the entire crossover. The art was great though, except for the fact that Hope was drawn like a 7 year old instead of a 17 year old.

This was far from a 4/5 issue, far from it.

Posted by Redberry

Did Scarlet Witch just own Phoenix all by herself? lol. Wanda is awesome.

Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

1. I know Fraction has his fanbase, but I'm not a fan of his writing.

2. Surprisingly, Scott came off as the most noble of the Phoenix Five.

Edited by ApatheticAvenger

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

1. I know Fraction has his fanbase, but I'm not a fan of his writing.

2. Surprisingly, Scott came off as the most noble of the Phoenix Five.

I enjoy Fraction quite a bit more than I used to, and yeah I fail to see what G-Man meant by Cyclops becoming more "extreme".

Cyclops' speeches are getting more extreme. It's due to the Phoenix Force's presence but you have to wonder how Cyclops will walk away from this at the end of the story.

Not wanting to kill people who disagree with him, going out of his way to heal Hawkeye and berate Emma for nearly killing him, and tellling off Namor for being a warmonger is extreme?

Cyclops is clearly the most stable of the bunch, along with Magik. Emma and Namor are the closest to being corrupted Dark Phoenix style (as I've been saying all along). No surprise with Mr. Imperious Rex, and Emma is the one manipulating him into invading Wakanda. Now that's extreme.

Posted by SolthesunGod

To my great suprise I enjoyed this issue. I bought a digital version because I wanted to see Polaris and the Scarlet Witch, marvel's two most well known sisters, interact talk, something after eight years of waiting....and there was nothing. But Tony Stark got clattered by T'Challa. I've wanting to reach into comic books since Civil War and do that too so it was nice to live vicariously through T'Challa. Tony Stark what an arrogant asshole.

I think the art was a bit rushed but generally speaking I thought it was really good. I think Colossus was a bad choice for a Phoenix host though. He's just not an interesting character. Whedon should never have brought him back. Dying was the most interesting thing that character ever did.

Edited by ApatheticAvenger

Poor Clint Barton, he always gets the shaft. XD

Posted by noj

@Sleepbutnodream15: Youre saying that the Avengers should let 5 beings with supposedly unlimited power and god complexes run around "fixing" the world? Especially when the force powering them has a history of completely wiping out countless planets and corrupting its host? The Avenger's reasons for wanting to stop the Phoenix Five are comepletley reasonable.

Edited by JoseDRiveraTCR7

@ApatheticAvenger said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

1. I know Fraction has his fanbase, but I'm not a fan of his writing.

2. Surprisingly, Scott came off as the most noble of the Phoenix Five.

I enjoy Fraction quite a bit more than I used to, and yeah I fail to see what G-Man meant by Cyclops becoming more "extreme".

Cyclops' speeches are getting more extreme. It's due to the Phoenix Force's presence but you have to wonder how Cyclops will walk away from this at the end of the story.

Not wanting to kill people who disagree with him, going out of his way to heal Hawkeye and berate Emma for nearly killing him, and tellling off Namor for being a warmonger is extreme?

Cyclops is clearly the most stable of the bunch, along with Magik. Emma and Namor are the closest to being corrupted Dark Phoenix style (as I've been saying all along). No surprise with Mr. Imperious Rex, and Emma is the one manipulating him into invading Wakanda. Now that's extreme.

IDK, Fraction doesn't seem to be for me. I first I thought his X-Men run was just a bad fluke because people said how good some of his other works are, but I tried his Iron-Man, Thor, and Defenders, and the guy isn't for me.

I understand where G-Man is coming from because let's be honest, the Phoenix 5 are, or are going to be, the villians of this story. Still, Cyclops, surprisingly, came off as the most decent one in the bunch. I had imagined that Marvel will go full out and have Scott try to kill all of the Avengers.

Posted by Cafeterialoca

@KainScion said:

@Cafeterialoca: yes you are. beloved hawkeye was done extra crispy. she can die for all i care. HAMMER TIME!. she's the bitchiest and most annoying of the bunch anyway.

And I mean, really, Hawkeye is getting his own book, yet Transonic is the bitchiest and most annoying? I'm sorry, did we read the right Dark Reign, where Hawkeye whined about Norman Osborn and tried to take his life and needlessly got himself captured?

In fact, have you even READ Transonic? Or are you shrugging her off as a girl?

Posted by Cafeterialoca

@Sleepbutnodream15: You never know what could happen. She's in a horrible spot right now.

@pspin : She really was the best character to come out of Generation Hope. It would be an absolute waste to kill her!

@Sleepbutnodream15: Which is cool. I really hope they acknowledge it.

@KainScion: Generation HOPE you mean. And I hardly see why that should be held against her character. I mean, out of all the X-Men, she has done very few mean things to the other members. In fact, Idie wouldn't be with Wolverine if it wasn't for Laurie.

Posted by KainScion

@Cafeterialoca: in my opinion she is a suckie character. i was in heaven when hope punched her. 'now you got something to whine about'

Posted by MadeinBangladesh

My Comic store is close today so I'm getting my books tomorrow

Edited by Whiskeyjack

I dig the change in artist for the series.. but sometimes I wonder if artists are even drawing the same characters. Hope looks like a little girl instead of a young woman.

Posted by Cafeterialoca

@KainScion: I disagree. I think she's great. She's constantly trying to seem smart, but no one pays attention to her, and bad things happen to her even though she doesn't deserve it. She was learning and getting better. She was almost like a leader that one issue.

Posted by KainScion

@Cafeterialoca: no. shes a moron. stuck up moron. she does nothing. she contributes nothing. shes just there. and annoys. i think you just like blue naked chicks.

Posted by ApatheticAvenger

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

I understand where G-Man is coming from because let's be honest, the Phoenix 5 are, or are going to be, the villians of this story. Still, Cyclops, surprisingly, came off as the most decent one in the bunch. I had imagined that Marvel will go full out and have Scott try to kill all of the Avengers.

In a lot of ways, Cyclops is the tragic hero of this story. He's trying to do the right thing, what he thinks is best for the world and mutantkind. It's just putting him at odds with Captain America and the Avengers, and he is blinded to the machinations of the Phoenix Force itself. Scott clearly wants a lack of bloodshed, he just wants the Avengers disbanded so they'll leave the mutant race in peace. However, the Avengers are also justified in being wary of the Phoenix Five and their god-like power.

Hope realized she needed to fulfill her destiny and find a way to harness the Phoenix herself (which is what she's doing with Iron Fist currently) so she can save the X-Men from the Phoenix's darker influences. Cyclops will be the one to see reason I feel, while Emma will be consumed by her darker emotions and lash out at the Avengers (she's already severely injured Hawkeye and manipulated Namor into invading Wakanda, clearly she is on a path to Dark Phoenix territory).

Posted by Cafeterialoca

@KainScion: MORON?! Hardly! She wants to be seen as smart. She fought for Idie's safety. She voiced concerns over Hope's actions over the rest of the team. Hell, she thought for herself! Honestly, if you don't like her, fine, but she's a lot more value than someone like Spider-Woman, who would whine about her hair products when Avengers Tower fell!

Posted by sparty-dbq

@Cafeterialoca:

Well, considering her *ahem* "rescuer" just flooded the place where she was being held, then yeah, I'd say you have some reason to worry. Yeah, drown her! That's a bang up job there, Coast Guard!

And I really hope they come up some better use of the AR app, because the little recap video and the constant "pencil-to-paper" things really aren't making it worth the 13 megs of my phone it takes up. And besides, it still barely works half the time.

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