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Avengers Vs. X-Men #10 - Round 10 Review

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The end is near and there is some heavy duty fighting going on. Be prepared to be visually treated to some action that we've been craving in this series.

The Good

Despite the bi-monthly schedule, there's often been a feeling of waiting for something to happen. We have seem some big events but what it comes down to is we're all waiting to see what happens with Hope. Besides that, for me, I've also been waiting to see what happens with Scarlet Witch. We get some of both in this issue.

Assuming you read the previous issue, you know that Cyclops has figured out where Hope has been hiding with the Avengers. From the very first page, we get to see Cyclops' attempt to retrieve her as Iron Fist steps up to the action. We're talking about a kung-fu guy with a powerful glowing hand. Could he actually stand up to someone with a huge portion of the Phoenix Force? What makes Iron Fist cool is he sure as hell is going to try.

There's something about K'un Lun and seeing the battle/chase here, drawn by Adam Kubert was great. How great would a return to K'un Lun series be drawn by Kubert? Not only do we see this encounter, we see who Captain America and the Avengers meet up with, more on Emma's struggle for control with the Phoenix Force as well as Magneto try to make a point to her on Utopia.

It's a glorious battle. Cyclops has never been more powerful. Many step up to take him on. You can imagine how things go. And again, it's Kubert's pencils but the art is so crisp and amazing accompanied by John Dell's inks and colors by Laura Martin and Larry Molinar. As far as the art goes, I think this might be my favorite with all the different scenes that take place. We've had a few different artists so far but I'm glad Kubert got to do this one.

The Bad

It may be a glorious battle but it almost suddenly ends for sake of the size of the issue. Due to the limitations of the format, you get the feeling that these events needed to be wrapped up to end this issue.

Sigh, the next issue is apparently in FOUR weeks now. Let me point out that there are some great scenes here. Everyone is putting up a great fight. As enjoyable as it is, I can't help but wonder if Cyclops, with as much power as he has, couldn't have settled things as soon as he got there. It could be that he still doesn't have full control of the power or realize everything he can actually do. We know he's being influenced by the Phoenix Force but it seems he should have been able to wipe everyone out. The action builds and builds and then it felt as if it abruptly stops. Time to wait again for the next issue for more to happen.

With everything that's going on, we can only hope there is a strong endgame planned. Big things are happening. Scott's actions can't be taken lightly. This could be a matter of he was simply possessed and did some harsh things so should be forgiven later. There's also Hope. She's doing quite a bit as well. Will she have a place after all this. I'm still bothered by the way X-SANCTION ended with Cable in comic book limbo. This may not be a fair critique on this issue but whether it's the surprise of suspense, I'm just not sure where this is all going to go.

The Verdict

We are so close to the end. There has been many times throughout the series where it's felt as if the story could have been told quicker. We are seeing more of an actual confrontation here and the action gets frantic and intense. Adam Kubert's art is a joy to see as we get to see our favorite characters depicted in such a visually appealing fashion. As things heat up, there is the question of why Cyclops with a huge portion of the Phoenix Force can't or isn't able to finish things immediately. As the story heats up, there is a sudden abrupt ending. It is fitting for the evolution of the story here but also made the issue feel as if the last couple pages were rushed in order to set things up for the next issue. With two issues left, it will be interesting to see where this is all going to go. There are lots of great visuals and actions here but now we have to wait four weeks to find out what happens next.

38 Comments
Posted by EdwardWindsor

I have isuses with the series in general but this had some cool spots. The panel of cyke using his optic blast merged with the force was cool. Just think its a bit of a cop out in places.

Posted by Mucklefluga

I love how this comic is at 0.5 stars with 2 votes already at the moment.

Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

I hate how this event has basically been Marvel telling the reader that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thanks for teaching me something I learned in high school, Marvel. What's next? Are you going to teach me how lying is bad or how cheaters never prosper?

Posted by Crowingaboutcomics

The largest issue I've had with the series is that nothing has been too unexpected...and I really like to be surprised! We know that Cyclops lives through all this (YAWN) as the Marvel NOW! show him in a red/black costume with the new "X" visor...so since someone "has to die" in a Marvel event, is the surprise of who it is really that big of one? I've been incredibly disappointed in the other Omega level mutants, and really wish the Pheonix five could have been them rather than the flagship of the characters from Uncanny X-Men. Can you imagine: Quentine Quire, Cable, Professor X, Legion and Rachel Summers...it didn't make sense to me that the Phoenix bonded with characters that didn't already have the power set that it was attracted to. The most ridiculous was Namor - a bird of fire, bonding with someone from the water...perhaps that was the "surprise" Marvel thought was cool. And while Rachel has had some small parts - as the only living avatar for the Phoenix - she should be up and center throughout. Anyway, I'd love for Illyana to step up to the plate in the last issue, since she has had the most experience with battling the darker side of her soul, it would a realistic game changer for her to be able to beat the influence of the Phoenix and save the day. But, no I doubt Marvel can do that because she's too much of a side-line character. I don't know - it just seems like there was so many other places they could go with this series as opposed to Civil War Re-do.

Posted by DATNIGGA

emma mind controlling other x men... seems like something she would do naturally

Posted by MadeinBangladesh
@Crowingaboutcomics: I don't see any sign of Emma Frost anywhere in Marvel NOW! she might be dead at the end of AvsX
Posted by stormphoenix

WOW cant wait to get it.

Posted by RaceAddict

Missed #8 and #9 in print while on vacation, so had to get 'em digitally. Anxious to get the latest in print again!

Posted by JohnnyWalker

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

I hate how this event has basically been Marvel telling the reader that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thanks for teaching me something I learned in high school, Marvel. What's next? Are you going to teach me how lying is bad or how cheaters never prosper?

you believe this?? this is the biggest pile of BS youll hear in your life. cheaters DO prosper. 99% of the time anyway,

Posted by feargalr

This issue was okay... Nothing to write home about.

Posted by JohnnyWalker

@feargalr: mm yeah chaos fist much

Edited by Lokheit

Cyclops saying "How's that for clobering time?" Interrumping the Thing with an epic Phoenixed Optic Blast made my day :P

Magneto opposing Emma made me think for a moment he could be the one honorably dying after the event, as there seems to be no room for a team accepting him after this event, but I think I've seen him in the comer of the last legacy issue so I ruled that out.

I found the watchers quote about Cyclops needing more power, needing Emma a bit misleading: Does he mean that Cyclops is going for Emma to help him? Or that he want's to take the last portion of the Phoenix from her?

Either way we got the battle on issue 11 set up:

- Case A: Cyclops arrives at Utopia: "Emma, honey, I think you should come with me, Hope is getting mor... what da...? Emma? Did you mind controlled all our friends to serve you? Oh my...!! This power is corrupting us Emma! We need to stop this! I have to stop you! Sorry my love!"

-Case B: Cyclops arrives at Utopia: "Emma I'm comming for your portion of the PF, surrend it to me or I will... what da...? What are you doing Emma? Oh my...!! Well, now I have 2 reasons to take this power from you before it consumes you!"

Probably with Charlie X showing up to make sense on someones head.

In any case, the defeated (not necesarily dead as Namor, Peter and Illyana are still alive) loses the Phoenix and the winner (the figure on issue 12, who probably will be revealed on that cover after the issue, same that happened with Colossus on WatXM to not spoil stuff), no matter his initial intentios, gets the full PF overcharging him, completly losing control and setting up the final fight.

As I always say, I hope neither Scott (already seen in Marvel Now!) nor Emma (not yet seen :S :S) die. Would be too lame for Cyclops to lose another love to the Phoenix.

Posted by Mutant God

Not a fan of this issue

Edited by ApatheticAvenger

@Mutant God said:

Not a fan of this issue

Same here. After issue five there seemed like some potential in this series, a Miracleman style commentary on superheroes using their god-like powers to create a utopia for mankind and whether or not it was truly beneficial. However, it has now swiftly degenerated into a poor retelling of the Dark Phoenix Saga. Hickman has been the only "architect" portraying the characters and story well, Brubaker and Bendis have fallen flat and Aaron and Fraction are moderate.

This entire event is a letdown from what was promised. We were told that the two great Marvel flagship teams would be battling it out, dueling over ideological differences. We could have had the Avengers, representing the status quo (as they often have) vs. the X-Men, representing the outcasts and disenfranchised. Instead, we have the Avengers fighting against the oppressive, Phoenix-corrupted X-Men.

We were promised that this would be different than Civil War, where one side was unarguably painted more negatively (in that case, Stark's pro-registration side), and yet the Phoenix Five are CLEARLY the enemy here (regardless of the good they've done). In fact, this hasn't been the Avengers vs. the X-Men for more than half of the arc. It's been the Avengers AND the "popular" X-Men versus the out-of control Phoenix Five. A poorly written, overblown, overly-long letdown.

At least a good portion of Marvel Now! looks good. Remender and Cassaday on Uncanny Avengers and Remender on Cap, Gillen on Iron Man, Waid on Hulk, and even Bendis' All-New X-Men shows promise. If this is what we have to weather to get to that, a fresh start, then so be it. Just don't let me down again Marvel, DC is doing pretty damn well for themselves.

Posted by windcaster

I think  Cyclops is going to die and the younger version of him is the one we saw in the Marvel Now! promo. I always wondered why Hope never thought to use the  Phoenix or Wanda's powers by using her own?  

Posted by afterwatchmen

I am hoping cyclops dies at the end of this series!

Iknow he was on the marvel now but I'm hoping that was a mistake and cyclops dies!

If he doesnt die then this whole series has been a waste to me

Posted by ALittleTooRaph

@afterwatchmen said:

I am hoping cyclops dies at the end of this series!

Iknow he was on the marvel now but I'm hoping that was a mistake and cyclops dies!

If he doesnt die then this whole series has been a waste to me

If Cyclops dies at the end of this I'll be disgusted with Marvel. So, here's hoping you're the one disappointed at the end of this thing and not me.

Posted by ALittleTooRaph

As an X-Men fan I haven't liked this crossover much because they have been painted as the bad guys, and have seen far less face time in the first 10 issues than the Avengers characters have (excluding the Phoenix Five). Marvel seems to want people to start picking up both X-Men and Avengers books after this, but this event has only made me like the Avengers less. Cancelling Uncanny X-Men and having an Uncanny Avengers title debut instead was the final straw for me.

Posted by antemiusenteri

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Oh you know i heard DC is doing that next year

Posted by IllyanaRasputin

Not a big fan of this issue whatsoever. It was really slow pace and I feel like it really got no where. We already know Emma Frost is being corrupted by the P5... All we saw was her being corrupted again but instead of frying random peoples minds she's just making sure all of the X-Men are in check and bowing down to her like the Queen she is. AGAIN, nothing new there. Cyclops wants Hope. Yep He's been wanting her for about two months now. AND FINALLY Hope learns how to fight back, I don't really even want to think about how she manipulated the Dragon's powers. But whatever I'm not even going to get into that.

Long story short like I said in my first sentence, I'm not a big fan of this issue, and I'm not looking forward waiting FOUR weeks. Like seriously? Let's end this, let's see who dies. (I personally think it will be Professor Xavier), let Cyclops feel shitty about what he's done, let Emma Frost be herself again and either run a school or join the Hellfire Club again, OH and teleport Hope to limbo.

Posted by Saren

"Chaos Fist", really?

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Posted by sparty-dbq

I love that they're still making both the "I'm with the Avengers," and "I'm with the X-Men" variants like anyone in their right mind would still be with the X-Men at this point.

And four weeks?! Seriously?!

Posted by Hareil0079

@DATNIGGA said:

emma mind controlling other x men... seems like something she would do naturally

Exactly!

Posted by FadeToBlackBolt

Oh look, a comic universally panned gets a good review on CV. What a surprise. 

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

Why does Marvel hate the X-Men?

Posted by X35

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Oh look, a comic universally panned gets a good review on CV. What a surprise.
Posted by DATNIGGA

@ALittleTooRaph: I agree with this.. I love spiderman & Hulk & thor.. but this event has made me dislike the avengers

Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Why does Marvel hate the X-Men?

W/O any information I think it's unfair to say they hate the X-Men. Considering previous interviews and the fact that the Avengers film made a lot of money, I think it's more safe to say that they simply favor the Avengers more.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Why does Marvel hate the X-Men?

W/O any information I think it's unfair to say they hate the X-Men. Considering previous interviews and the fact that the Avengers film made a lot of money, I think it's more safe to say that they simply favor the Avengers more.

The only information you need is that all Marvels top talent has been put on Avengers books and the flagship X-book just got cancelled 
Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Why does Marvel hate the X-Men?

W/O any information I think it's unfair to say they hate the X-Men. Considering previous interviews and the fact that the Avengers film made a lot of money, I think it's more safe to say that they simply favor the Avengers more.

The only information you need is that all Marvels top talent has been put on Avengers books and the flagship X-book just got cancelled

That's not enough to claim Marvel hates the X-Men. Many of Marvel's top talent, and even editorial, seem to be Avengers fans, so the company has been more Avengers oriented the past few years. This doesn't equate hate. The cancelling of Uncanny X-Men sucks, but they are putting out All New X-Men as the flagship, and they have Uncanny Avengers.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Why does Marvel hate the X-Men?

W/O any information I think it's unfair to say they hate the X-Men. Considering previous interviews and the fact that the Avengers film made a lot of money, I think it's more safe to say that they simply favor the Avengers more.

The only information you need is that all Marvels top talent has been put on Avengers books and the flagship X-book just got cancelled

That's not enough to claim Marvel hates the X-Men. Many of Marvel's top talent, and even editorial, seem to be Avengers fans, so the company has been more Avengers oriented the past few years. This doesn't equate hate. The cancelling of Uncanny X-Men sucks, but they are putting out All New X-Men as the flagship, and they have Uncanny Avengers.

Uncanny Avengers is not an X-Men book nomatter how many mutants is on the team. It would be like if they started a book called the Mighty X-Men and tried to call it an Avengers book. Also All New X-Men is a stupid, stupid idea with the the worst roster I have ever seen
Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Why does Marvel hate the X-Men?

W/O any information I think it's unfair to say they hate the X-Men. Considering previous interviews and the fact that the Avengers film made a lot of money, I think it's more safe to say that they simply favor the Avengers more.

The only information you need is that all Marvels top talent has been put on Avengers books and the flagship X-book just got cancelled

That's not enough to claim Marvel hates the X-Men. Many of Marvel's top talent, and even editorial, seem to be Avengers fans, so the company has been more Avengers oriented the past few years. This doesn't equate hate. The cancelling of Uncanny X-Men sucks, but they are putting out All New X-Men as the flagship, and they have Uncanny Avengers.

Uncanny Avengers is not an X-Men book nomatter how many mutants is on the team. It would be like if they started a book called the Mighty X-Men and tried to call it an Avengers book. Also All New X-Men is a stupid, stupid idea with the the worst roster I have ever seen

I agree that Uncanny Avengers is not an X-Men book. It's an Avengers book, and like I said before, the current administration at Marvel favors the Avengers more than the X-Men, but that does not mean they hate the X-Men. And I agree that the concept of ANX is stupid.

Posted by Omertalvendetta

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Why does Marvel hate the X-Men?

W/O any information I think it's unfair to say they hate the X-Men. Considering previous interviews and the fact that the Avengers film made a lot of money, I think it's more safe to say that they simply favor the Avengers more.

The only information you need is that all Marvels top talent has been put on Avengers books and the flagship X-book just got cancelled

That's not enough to claim Marvel hates the X-Men. Many of Marvel's top talent, and even editorial, seem to be Avengers fans, so the company has been more Avengers oriented the past few years. This doesn't equate hate. The cancelling of Uncanny X-Men sucks, but they are putting out All New X-Men as the flagship, and they have Uncanny Avengers.

Uncanny Avengers is not an X-Men book nomatter how many mutants is on the team. It would be like if they started a book called the Mighty X-Men and tried to call it an Avengers book. Also All New X-Men is a stupid, stupid idea with the the worst roster I have ever seen

I agree that Uncanny Avengers is not an X-Men book. It's an Avengers book, and like I said before, the current administration at Marvel favors the Avengers more than the X-Men, but that does not mean they hate the X-Men. And I agree that the concept of ANX is stupid.

At the end of AvX, there will be no such thing as Avengers or X-Men... that's what Remender is doing (hell, what the whole Marvel NOW is all about). They're taking these historically separate corners of the Marvel universe and combining them into one entity.

Posted by rawr

It could have been a great issue so why did it feel super MEH for really what should be coming to the meat of the issue at hand?

Also kind of want to punch myself in the teeth when the Avengers call Hope "their" girl.

And waiting 4 weeks for the heavily leaked and promo-ed issue 11 is going to give me a seizure I suspect. After a lukewarm issue like this one now was not the time to get Slow on finishing this.

Posted by jcbart

So Tony, you say that there's been too much story in these issues that could have been exchanged for better fights, then you say the fight in this issue could have been cut down immensely?

@ALittleTooRaph: Couldn't agree more. They can't take out Cyclops like this. It'll be the biggest cop out they've done, especially after all he's been through this past decade. Everyone needs to realise that he's a victim here, and everything he's done has been to save his race. Everyone has turned to him to lead them into salvation. Not even Captain America has had that amount of pressure for the same amount of time Scott has. Everyone needs to give the poor guy a break.

Posted by jojobinks70

I have read Uncanny X-men since I was 11 years old (I'm now 42). I have virtually every book from #94 thru 544. I have been so disappointed in how Marvel has handled the X-men in the past ten years that when they decided to reboot the numbering, I decided to end my collecting of my once favorite team, the reason I started collecting comics. Once a Marvel loyalist, I read almost primarily DC now. I started reading this AvX out of curiosity, and sure enough Marvel remains true to form and utterly disappoints. I agree its like they have no respect for the history of these great characters and just use them as a device to promote their latest cash cow, The Avengers. I truly hope that someone with some respect for what once was can come and right this disaster that has become Marvel comics.

Posted by DMC

Sorry G-Man but this issue deserves a 3 or maybe 2.5

My biggest problem overall with this issue is how they portrayed Cyclops. I was really looking forward to a more diplomatic, non-violent approach from Cyclops.......at least at first. From AvsXmen #6 till now the writers have established that Scott was the most sane of the Phoenix 5.

Remember what he said in the infinity comic. "I cannot - Will Not - let the Phoenix change me"

I know I know, he also said "No more Avengers" but since he's trying to get Hope back, I'd hoped he would have taken a more subtle approach first.

Plus there was no buildup to Hope's big moment, nothing like Spider-Man's. But maybe they'll make up for it in the last issue.........

Posted by GBrutality

i just hope it's not a shadowland sort of deal where what daredevil did being *shudder* possessed was quickly swept under the rug. i want cyclops to be judged for his actions and it not be cleared up in just a few short months.