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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. #107 - The Hub Review

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Get ready for 'Level 8.' Too bad it just might mean bad news for some of the Agents.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. continues to give us more of the same. While the show can still be enjoyed on some levels, this episode was another average one.

We jump in on the middle of a mission with Agent Coulson. It's soon upgraded to Level 8. That means it's classified business and the majority of his team accepts the fact that they'll have to operate 'in the dark' since they do not have that clearance.

What's interesting about there being higher levels of classified business is there could be more to this side of the Marvel Cinematic Universe that we are unable to see. At the same time, the show still doesn't quite have the same feel or vibe from the Marvel Studios films. Each episode deals mainly with the problem or bad guy of the week. We're not really seeing any major aspects of the Marvel Universe. Of course we're not going to see the big budget super FX action we see in the movies but as we get more and more movies, this show feels more separated as a standard spy-type TV show.

That being said, we do get the introduction of Victoria Hand. It's an interesting choice and hopefully a character we'll see more of in future episodes. With the Level 8 mission, Agent Ward and Fitz have to go out on a dangerous two-man mission. That means, prepare for the comedy. In some ways I'm becoming more accepting of the bits of humor. It could be hearing the snickering from my daughter as we watch. The downside to that is the feeling it's becoming further from what comic fans thought the show could be. It's strange that with the announcement of TV shows focusing on Daredevil, Iron Fist and Luke Cage, this show continues to avoid the essence of any Marvel concepts.

With the mission involving Ward and Fitz, we do see more bonding and growing among the team members. As the situation gets more dire, we're seeing them move together and willing to do what it takes for each other. So at least we're seeing some slight character building.

As for the weekly dose of the Agent Coulson Mystery, Tahiti is brought up yet again. Did you know it was a "magical place"? More importantly, we get a little more information on the big mystery from Skye's past.

It's hard to say where this show is going. With the tiny bits of the mysteries with Coulson and Skye, we have a small connecting plot. Mostly it all revolves around whatever the mission of the week is. As far as a television show goes, at least we're getting some sort of Marvel content on the small screen each week. It feels like we could be getting more. I may sound like I'm coming down on the show but it's only because there is the potential for more. Next week's episode, for example, will have a tie-in to Thor: The Dark World. Perhaps that will be a game-changer episode. The show's ratings are dropping but let's hope there are some big things yet to come.

49 Comments
Posted by G-Man

Don't forget, whether you agree or disagree with this, you are welcomed and encouraged to write your own review!

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Edited by batmannflash

I've only seen the first episode but based on reviews and the dropping rating, I would say that this show is starting to fall. I can't properly judge: purely speculations.

Anyways, great review as always G-Man!

Posted by Holuntron

I've loved the show so far. My dad and I enjoy it every week. I thought this week's was pretty good, actually, but I still think the pilot, the one with the bugged girl, and last week's have been the best. It actually kind of upsets me that so many people are bailing just because the Avengers aren't showing up. I never expected them to. Personally, I do not want to see a bunch of movie tie-ins, because I would really prefer the show stay its own course and not act as just an hour-long commercial for Marvel's most recent movie.

Posted by haydenclaireheroes

Here are my thoughts on the episode:

Posted by CheeseSticks

Arrow's better

Edited by MrMazz

Fun plotting with a couple o nice homoages to various Spy shows/movies. SHIELD is really good at being light and breezy CSI:Marvel fair. It still has some massive tonal issus when it tries to play things serious despite largely being to pull it off in the moments, it never seems to add up all that well.

How did everyone else take the ending with Victoria Hand and Sitwell talking about Coulson's Crew? Not sure if that was meant to set Hand up as a beauocratic antagonist for Coulson to brush against or if it was to show that SHIELD has a heart (one that is forged form LMDs). Also what was up with the red highlights? How un TV like.

Man I hope the rumors that Drew Goddard (Cabin in the Woods) will be showrunning/writing the Daredevil mini series for Netflix are true.

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Posted by lifeboy

Hey.... where's k4tz? I hope he's not sick or anything. Tomorrow is the big review day. Get well k4tz if your sick :)

Posted by Elwoodtoast

I like this show enough to keep watching every week. But like Tony said, I probably wouldn't watch it if it didn't have marvel in the title. Arrow is a superior show in almost every aspect. My favorite line in this episode is when Skye says:

"Coulson is a robot!!" In reference to his lack of feeling. Foreshadowing?

Posted by AlKusanagi

I'm sick of the whole "Arrow is better!" argument. Yeah, NOW it's a pretty good show, but have people gone back and rewatched it? The majority of season one is pretty sketchy. The vast majority of shows don't hit their stride until their second or third seasons, so let's at least make it through a season before completely writing it off.

Posted by G-Man

@lifeboy: uhm, he's never reviewed this show if that's what you were thinking.

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Edited by scouts1998
Posted by lifeboy

@g_man: oh darn! Sorry. I thought he did all the tv show reviews. Lol Get some rest gman, tomorrow is a big review day!

Posted by ScarletBatman

I feel like this show is getting stronger and stronger. We're past the "who is everyone" stage and now we're delving into the true characterization and world building. This show isn't amazing right now but what show was really that great in its first season?

Look at Star Trek TNG, a much beloved show. The first season is easily the worst. The West Wing, Law & Order, Buffy, Fraisure, Family Guy, CSI, Castle, etc. It takes time to develop a voice, a stride and to create a well oiled machine.

I honestly do not get why people keep saying Arrow is better. Duh it's better! You're comparing a show that has an entire season head start - its had a chance to develop characters, answer questions, make new ones and give you a lot to think about. SHIELD has seven episodes under its belt, compared to Arrow's 28. Go back and watch the first seven episodes of Arrow and compare them to the first seven of season 2. The show is a million times better.

Give SHIELD a chance to mature and it will become quite good.

Edited by Iron_Turtle

@scarletbatman: Firefly. Which is/was incidentally another Whedon creation. ;)

Posted by TDK_1997

I'm sick of the whole "Arrow is better!" argument. Yeah, NOW it's a pretty good show, but have people gone back and rewatched it? The majority of season one is pretty sketchy. The vast majority of shows don't hit their stride until their second or third seasons, so let's at least make it through a season before completely writing it off.

Arrow was good in the first seven episodes unlike Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.Arrow kept me entertained and showed me some interesting things while this show seems like a normal spy show that has a few things that remind you that it has something to do with superheroes and Marvel.

Posted by SlickyMike88

I lost intrest after episode 3 , there are better show's out there then this.

Posted by SandMan_

This show is going nowhere fast...

Posted by Decept-O

A fair review.

I am hanging on, hoping things will improve and there will be some type of appearance of at least ONE major Marvel hero or villain. Heck even a second or third tier character would be great.

I tire of Fitz. I don't find his character appealing, and in fact think all he says and does as "forced." Not to mention the convenient "I can find a solution in seconds" cliche' they revert to with him and Jemma. It is also a challenge to understand what he's saying; not because of his accent but he talks way too damn fast. His interactions with the other characters seem empty and not believable.

I know they are stringing us along concerning Agent Coulson. Although I would like to see that issue resolved with a definitive explanation if he is a LMD, a prototype of the Vision or if he simply was healed by a magic based character like Dr. Strange.

I DO like the mystery added to Agent Skye and her own back story. Plus just seeing her is worth it to me but that is another story....:)

Posted by Jaydarocknrolla

watched the first 2-3 eps and jumped ship. not enough marvel madness goin on,no real superheroes/villains in sight and their ate so many minor characyers you coulf mine from marvel. that ish is stupid. they could throw manthing in the mix,morbious the living vampire,the patriot/young avengers could get some play. endless possibilities,no imagination.

Posted by Mxyzptlk_CV
Posted by PeppeyHare

Meh

Posted by DaltonMunnal

It actually kind of upsets me that so many people are bailing just because the Avengers aren't showing up. I never expected them to. Personally, I do not want to see a bunch of movie tie-ins, because I would really prefer the show stay its own course and not act as just an hour-long commercial for Marvel's most recent movie.

Strawman fallacy. Nobody wanted or expected the Avengers to show up, and in fact many of us are annoyed that the show does in fact act as an hour long commercial by referencing at least one of the movies in every episode for no reason other than a ridiculously corny joke ("you don't have to start calling me Iron Man") or to simply remind us that "hey guys, remember the Avengers? Wasn't that cool? That totally happened, you guys! Please keep watching our show!" ("ever since the Battle of New York."). I have to hold back from vomiting in my mouth every time they do that. We didn't want more of the Avengers. We wanted some Marvel. Any Marvel at all. How could we not be disappointed that "Marvel's first TV series" has no Marvel in besides references to movies that make this show look like crap?

Edited by Gotham331

I've seen about 2 and a half episodes and I've copped out on it. The characters aren't very interesting and the threats just don't seem to be all that serious.

From what I've seen, it has trouble finding it's identify because of all the references to the avengers (both characters and movie events). It also tries to tie into other marvel movies, but from what I saw the efforts were kinda corny.

One problem being that there was no shield presence in IM3 or T:TDW. So I highly doubt any connection to Thor will be remotely interesting. If they're going to link AOS to the MCU then shield needs to at least be visible in the movie otherwise what's the point?

Posted by jrteeter

The review is pretty fair and I do agree that the show can do more. But let's play devil's advocate.

Jeff Loeb used to work on the Heroes TV show. That was a series that gave us everything we wanted right when we wanted it in the first season and had no where to go from there. Then it spent 2-3 seasons trying to fix all of the impossible situations it put characters in and by the time show show ended its season it got canceled because its special effects budget was really high and they couldn't keep their audience who were all expecting season 1 awesomeness.

Let's have the show build slow and get to know the characters. The big stuff for me can wait a little. I'd rather see the show around for the long hall.

Posted by sasquatch888

please dvr agents of shield, arrow and any other comic show just to keep them on the air ...even if you just skim through it ,all these shows need support to continue ,,,,hopefully the superhero show will not become a thing of the past ,,,look how much time it took marvel to put out a show .....from hulk to agents of shield like 20 years ...dont think of it as a competition think of it as a cumulative effort ...i hope daredevil is better than arrow and the next generation of shows is better than daredevil and so on...hopefully we'll get an R rated show on hbo or showtime about a comic hero without all the "fitz and simmons" comic relief ...its cool to be funny but we want something to appease the hardcore comic fans too.....imagine a rated R punisher or something akin to it ...if you support these shows then i could see a more gritty show arising in the future .

Edited by butters911

This show is already starting to get better, and definitely has potential. I don't get everyone giving up on the show. It takes time for a show to hit its stride.

Posted by TheManInTheShoe

I quite enjoy this show. It would be sad for me if it was cancelled. But maybe these low ratings are accurate but I still fell like it's sad.

Posted by The Stegman

That's it, I'm done with this show and it's refusal to actually show any heroes, just drop heroes' names.

Posted by jwalser3

Agents of S.H.I.T.

Posted by sagejonathan

I think Arrow has spoiled me. I have this show recorded on my DVR... the last 4 episodes or so, but I don't think it's worth my time.

Posted by Saint_Wildcard

I haven't seen it and by reactions around these parts I most likely wont.

That's it, I'm done with this show and it's refusal to actually show any heroes, just drop heroes' names.

You expected more?

Posted by The Stegman

I haven't seen it and by reactions around these parts I most likely wont.

@the_stegman said:

That's it, I'm done with this show and it's refusal to actually show any heroes, just drop heroes' names.

You expected more?

I didn't expect any of the Avengers to show up, but I expected SOME other established Marvel characters to show up. All they've been doing so far is having mediocre plotlines and name dropping "Thor" or "Iron Man' just so people don't forget that they are in the same universe. God forbid they actually show superheroes in this superhero show.

Posted by MatKrenz

This was honestly my favorite episode. Loved all the bits of Fitz helping out and showing how useful he is. The scene at the bar was my favorite part of the episode. Also I can't find myself to like Skye, her hacktivist schtick is not working for me.

Edited by War Killer

I actually really enjoyed this episode, seeing the team exploring The HUB was nice as it gave an idea of how big S.H.I.E.L.D. and how vast their operations are rather than just seeing them on the Helicarrier all the time. Speaking of which, did anyone catch that mention of the Triskelion?

This episode felt more like a S.H.I.E.L.D. show, having the team exploring how this organization works and seeing them learn that you can't always "trust the system" as they were told to do so often throughout the episode. Really I think it fits right into how S.H.I.E.L.D. works in the comics as you really can never trust them 100%, we saw a glimpse of this in The Avengers when Tony Stark mentions Nick Fury's secrets have secrets.

I'm glad to see Coulson investigating what really happened after his death, seeing him grow suspicions of the organization he's dedicated his life to is great to see and shows how much his character has grown since his introduction back in Iron Man 1. Seeing him and Skye exploring their past, I couldn't help but look around every time Skye or someone hacked into a S.H.I.E.L.D. file, hoping see any files with names or locations I might recognize.

The only thing I would have liked more of was Ward and Fitz's mission as I felt that was put on the backburner of this episode. Though I do admit that I am warming up to both Fitz and Simmons characters as they aren't so annoying anymore.

Overall, I enjoyed this episode and thought it was a nice little tour of S.H.I.E.L.D. in the MCU.

Posted by sasquatch888

@saint_rog_el said:

I haven't seen it and by reactions around these parts I most likely wont.

@the_stegman said:

That's it, I'm done with this show and it's refusal to actually show any heroes, just drop heroes' names.

You expected more?

I didn't expect any of the Avengers to show up, but I expected SOME other established Marvel characters to show up. All they've been doing so far is having mediocre plotlines and name dropping "Thor" or "Iron Man' just so people don't forget that they are in the same universe. God forbid they actually show superheroes in this superhero show.

how is " agents of shield" a superhero show ?

Posted by The Stegman

@sasquatch888: It's set in a world where superheroes exist, where they regularly acknowledge superheroes exist, and the team's whole point is to keep superhuman threats in check.

Edited by Herokiller12344

This show really isn't worth watching is it?

Edited by sasquatch888

@the_stegman said:

@sasquatch888: It's set in a world where superheroes exist, where they regularly acknowledge superheroes exist, and the team's whole point is to keep superhuman threats in check.

i feel you .....you have a point ...it would be cool if they actually had a character in it with superpowers ...the first episode started with so much potential ...i still like it but you have a point. next weeks episode ties into thor and thats cool ,,,lets see what happens ...sometimes i think this show would be better off on cable or wb ,,,it seems like network shows have big ratings expectations and cable shows get a smaller audience but the do alot of re-broadcasting and that sometimes draws in casual viewers ,,,agents of shield could never have that at abc ,,,i hope the show expands ,,i'm sticking with it ...we'll see ...all my non comics fan friends watched the first few episodes and lost interest a few of us are still loyal but if you look at the ratings the audience is shrinking, we can get the comedy act from sitcoms , comedy central ect....fitz and simmons are killing the show ,they make treats seem jovial ...marvel get serious ,,,this show should be really a bit more serious ...shield as a concept doesn't lend itself to the comedy routine by nature in my opinion and ive never seen shield agents so ridiculous . the comedy element was detrimental to thor 2 and iron man 3 i felt like the funny stuff took away from the sense of urgency in those films ( especially kat dennings in thor 2) and the same for agents of shield.

Edited by fables87

When are we going to see some actually superheroes from the Marvel universe in this show? Tried watching the first episode, but lost interest in it only during the beginning. Oh well. At least American Horror Story is on :D

Posted by Owie

Sorry to hear this show is still coasting along mediocre-style. I was hoping that once I stopped watching, it would magically get better and I'd have to come back. It had so much potential, just think of all the SHIELD-related agents and enemies like Spider Woman, Hydra, Viper, Black Widow, Dum Dum, Quake, SWORD, Jake Fury and Zodiac (for some fun), etc. I wonder if they're not using street-leveler heroes because they want to keep the rights to them for the Netflix shows.

Edited by girzaznot

I think the humor in this episode was better than the previous ones for sure, Fitz was actually good in this episode. The references are getting old though (New York, Tahiti). The tag line of the show is "Not all heroes are super." We shouldn't expect someone with powers to swoop in and save the day, but it would be nice to see more Marvel things from a Marvel show. Victoria Hand and Graviton were cool to see, but the plots have been barely interesting. My favorite one so far was the former agent with the device in her eye controlling her. It should be interesting to see what next weeks brings with a Thor 2 reference and allegedly this whole show is building up to Winter Soldier. All in all, its alright, I'm not going to stop watching it, but something needs to happen to keep more people on board. Not that they are related, but Arrow is doing a much better job with incorporating the DC universe in their show.

I'd like to see more Hydra or AIM spy interaction with SHIELD

Posted by AWeekInGeekdom

The show's getting better but at a sloooow pace, i'll stick around but man I hope we get some heroes soon/eventually.

Edited by MadeinBangladesh

Jesus this show has been boring so far. I'm gonna give a full season to see if it gets better.

Posted by fletcher78

watching this episode it struck me how much better it could be if they stopped using the plane and had then at the hub, or somewhere similiar. Seeing them interact with other S.H.I.E.L.D agents made it feel more connected to the marvel universe more than name dropping Stark or New York etc. I'm not going to give up on the show as it is improving, not as quickly as other might like, but still improving. Though maybe in the future they could bring Mockingbird into the show. She would be a good character to use and have her as a regular or semi regular.

Also as the series progresses maybe they should gradually tone down Fitz/Simmonds and have them toughen up, become less scatter brained as they get more experience.

Edited by comicbookfan93

This was actually my favourite episode yet I loved the scene with Sitwell and Simmons it was hilarious and I think I'm starting to love her

Posted by hamlet33

Like they said, S.H.I.E.L.D. Is alright, but i love Arrow alot more. It has a better plot, and in Arrow it's hard to watch a scene and NOT notice a little reference or nod to us comic lovers. SHIELD seems like a spy show that just happens to be in the same universe as the Avengers.

Edited by spidershamrock

Arrow is definitely better, I really think SHIELD would benefit from a darker tone. I'm not saying it has to be as dark as Arrow but it should definitely be darker than the movies, which it isn't