"Lifeguard85 said:

"Hm...I guess Ill just wait and see. I personally liked Psylocke better with telepathy, I just dont want Kwannon's death to be wasted"

Psylocke with telepath or just earlier X-Men?"

"pixelized said:

"Lifeguard85 said:

"Hm...I guess Ill just wait and see. I personally liked Psylocke better with telepathy, I just dont want Kwannon's death to be wasted"

Psylocke with telepath or just earlier X-Men?"

lol both, Psylocke after getting TK just sort of lost steam to me. I always thought they would end up doing something with her british body again, all the other ideas didnt seem to really work out for the best IMO"

"pixelized said:

"erik said:

"I actually like Kwannon. But I hope she does something different than Psylocke. "

I do as well, but there are already storage sheds filled with X-Men collecting Dust, Kwannon doesn't need to be another."

Lol. I guess that is true. She could always go back into a life of crime. "

Well, I have never liked Dazzler so I do not feel like I am missing anything with her. Lol.

"Well, I have never liked Dazzler so I do not feel like I am missing anything with her. Lol."

I loved Psylocke's look way more while she had telepathy. the cloak, the butterfly, it was great, but then she turned sexy ninja which pleased a different set of readers, which was fine, but it sort of felt like, good character was sacrificed for sex appeal. I still love her though.

She could... i just don't want people being brought back for nothing. Dazzler STILL hasn't been featured in anything and she was on the cover of secret invasion 3. garbage."

When she was first on X-Men, she was always crying about something or another. And then we find out that she has no drive in one of the annuals. She is content to drift into nothingness in both the X-Men and her singing career. I kind of find it funny that that is what seems to have happened. 

"When she was first on X-Men, she was always crying about something or another. And then we find out that she has no drive in one of the annuals. She is content to drift into nothingness in both the X-Men and her singing career. I kind of find it funny that that is what seems to have happened. "

"Lifeguard85 said:

"pixelized said:

I loved Psylocke's look way more while she had telepathy. the cloak, the butterfly, it was great, but then she turned sexy ninja which pleased a different set of readers, which was fine, but it sort of felt like, good character was sacrificed for sex appeal. I still love her though.

She could... i just don't want people being brought back for nothing. Dazzler STILL hasn't been featured in anything and she was on the cover of secret invasion 3. garbage."

lol i agree, im actually hoping they put her back in the british body, Id prefer that over ninja psylocke, but she just grew on me over the years. Plus, they would probably still let her keep her ninja skills and wear next to nothingand I completely agree on Dazzler, there is no reason she hasnt done much of anything yet. They could at least say she is recording an album or something LOL. Instead Land just throws her in there to be singing once in awhile"

If they do put her back in the british body, then they fell into a plot hole. Plus her british body is not nearly as thoroughly trained as her asian body so she would lose out on fighting ability."

"pixelized said:

I loved Psylocke's look way more while she had telepathy. the cloak, the butterfly, it was great, but then she turned sexy ninja which pleased a different set of readers, which was fine, but it sort of felt like, good character was sacrificed for sex appeal. I still love her though.

She could... i just don't want people being brought back for nothing. Dazzler STILL hasn't been featured in anything and she was on the cover of secret invasion 3. garbage."

lol i agree, im actually hoping they put her back in the british body, Id prefer that over ninja psylocke, but she just grew on me over the years. Plus, they would probably still let her keep her ninja skills and wear next to nothing

and I completely agree on Dazzler, there is no reason she hasnt done much of anything yet. They could at least say she is recording an album or something LOL. Instead Land just throws her in there to be singing once in awhile"

"When she was first on X-Men, she was always crying about something or another. And then we find out that she has no drive in one of the annuals. She is content to drift into nothingness in both the X-Men and her singing career. I kind of find it funny that that is what seems to have happened. "

"british body? the Blonde with blue eyes??? Matt Fraction said he wanted to simplify her so you may be getting your wish sooner or later! [=

Well her Manifest Destiny story said that she was now poor and landed a gig singing in a local bar for money, which is why she's back in San Francisico. But um... she lives in a mansion, with all she could ever need, why does she work? Although i think, and maybe this is just my eyes deceiving me, but i think i say an unlettered preview of a woman with blinding lights twirling around her in an Uncanny 509 preview.

erik said:

"When she was first on X-Men, she was always crying about something or another. And then we find out that she has no drive in one of the annuals. She is content to drift into nothingness in both the X-Men and her singing career. I kind of find it funny that that is what seems to have happened. "

hmmmmm, she was a gladiator though! she has such rich history, a cool ability,  but she's not presented to us well. Her and Karma, they  inhabit the same refigerator. "

"Lifeguard85 said:

Kwannon didnt lose out though, back in the day she was like equal to betsy I thought"

Back in the day, Kwannon had a poorly trained british body and had to make due with that. Betsy had an asian body that was molded to perfect fighting perfection but little skill. It balanced out. Now Betsy has the body and the skill while Kwannon has the skill but still a soft, squishy, british body. "

"

Alison, is that you?

So much for having, "strong women return to comics" if you're not going to have them to do more than be eye candy.

"

"Lifeguard85 said:

Kwannon didnt lose out though, back in the day she was like equal to betsy I thought"

Back in the day, Kwannon had a poorly trained british body and had to make due with that. Betsy had an asian body that was molded to perfect fighting perfection but little skill. It balanced out. Now Betsy has the body and the skill while Kwannon has the skill but still a soft, squishy, british body. "

"

Alison, is that you?

So much for having, "strong women return to comics" if you're not going to have them to do more than be eye candy.
"

i think we have sir Land until issue 512, but yes all of his women are identical!

I just think that with the gaps in Dazzler's  appearances, people have forgotten how to write her. Nevermind reading her old series or anything to get a feel for her, just pretend like you know how's she's supposed to be and throw it at us.

"I just think that with the gaps in Dazzler's  appearances, people have forgotten how to write her. Nevermind reading her old series or anything to get a feel for her, just pretend like you know how's she's supposed to be and throw it at us. "

I USED TO THINK THE SAME THING! All the information you needed to know for the character was stored in a computer.... maybe they were all down and Fraction was forced to improvise on characterization [Wolverine said to Northstar that he and Aurora were "amazing" during secret invasion]. If issue one is anything as to how the arc will be.... Kwannon will want to kill herself again.

LOL ironically I never thought they had something like that and wanted to be one of the people to help implement it. You think they would at least use wikipedia, comicvine, or even the marvel biographies to get a feel for the characters, but whatever lol

"If issue one is anything as to how the arc will be.... Kwannon will want to kill herself again."

"You think they would at least use wikipedia, comicvine, or even the marvel biographies to get a feel for the characters, but whatever lol"

that seems like what Bendis is doing with Dark Avengers

If Kwannon is back I want her to be the the ENGLISH!Betsy body not her original body because this is going to get messy and confusing...

Also, in terms of Dazzler, thank God they at least made her sexy again.  What was with the butch look she had going on in Excalibur??

I also like the way her power are illustrated now, as a more developed spectrum rather than 80s style laser beam type. 

Totally agree in terms of the character though... it always annoys me how Pixie is written so randomly.  And those of you who are actually from the UK are surely in agreement that her speech is like nails on a chalkboard in terms of how far away from 'Welsh' she is.