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    Character » Raven appears in 1730 issues.

    Raven battles the forces of evil alongside her adoptive family, the Teen Titans while trying to control her baser, antagonistic instincts she inherited from her demonic father, Trigon.

    DC's big plans for Raven?

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    #1  Edited By Outside_85

    In the recent CV interview with Scott Lobdell accompanying the 'leaked' images from Teen Titans #7, Lobdell implied that Raven might not be appearing in Teen Titans and that DC had other things in mind for her; http://www.comicvine.com/teen-titans/65-19081/exclusive-images-from-teen-titans-7-reveal-future-plans/92-655925/#68

    CV: And Raven? A few months ago you mentioned she'd be in the books right about now. Can we assume the crossover has delayed her arrival?

    SL: Something delayed her, but it wasn't the crossover! It turns out DC has much bigger plans in store for the character and when you hear what they are you'll understand why she's too big for our little book!

    As some forum goes have speculated, Raven's may be the missing Daughter of Darkseid he came to Earth for in Justice League. Personally I doubt this, since I don't really see any point behind DC swapping one inter-dimensional monster of a father for another.

    But what do you guys and gals think these 'too big for TT' plans are?

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    #2  Edited By kidchipotle

    Probably going to join JLD or be in some sort of cross-over event that will give her her own on-going or join another book (like JLD)

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    #3  Edited By jsphsmth

    @Outside_85: Lemire plans on shaking up the JLD team when he takes over the comic. Two members are leaving and three are coming onboard. He also suggested a rotating cast involving some of the other "Dark" characters. She could easily end up there.

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    #4  Edited By Outside_85

    @jsphsmth: I thought he was only bringing in two, a man and a woman (Black Orchid), one of them being a magic user the other not so much...can I ask when it became 3?

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    #5  Edited By SuperShafe

    I think Pandora is Darksieds daughter.

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    #6  Edited By Video_Martian

    @ArturoCalaKayVee said:

    Probably going to join JLD or be in some sort of cross-over event that will give her her own on-going or join another book (like JLD)

    Eh, it's possible...

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    #7  Edited By jsphsmth

    @Outside_85: CBR article here

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    #8  Edited By kidchipotle

    @mr.obvious: To which part? haha

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    #9  Edited By Video_Martian

    @ArturoCalaKayVee: To her joining the JLD...

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    #10  Edited By Afro_Warrior

    @SuperShafe:

    She's not Jim Lee squashed that rumour a while ago.

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    #11  Edited By kidchipotle

    @Afro_Warrior said:

    @SuperShafe:

    She's not Jim Lee squashed that rumour a while ago.

    Where and how did a rumor like that even start?

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    #12  Edited By kidchipotle

    @mr.obvious: I dont know, that seems pretty probable...where else would she end up?

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    #13  Edited By MonkeyToe

    @ArturoCalaKayVee said:

    @Afro_Warrior said:

    @SuperShafe:

    She's not Jim Lee squashed that rumour a while ago.

    Where and how did a rumor like that even start?

    Just because the JL comic revealed that Darkseid was looking for his daughter on Earth and the back of that book had a mini starring Pandora in it.

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    #14  Edited By Afro_Warrior

    @MonkeyToe said:

    @ArturoCalaKayVee said:

    @Afro_Warrior said:

    @SuperShafe:

    She's not Jim Lee squashed that rumour a while ago.

    Where and how did a rumor like that even start?

    Just because the JL comic revealed that Darkseid was looking for his daughter on Earth and the back of that book had a mini starring Pandora in it.

    Yep. Comic fans are more then willing to make massive leaps in thinking based on two unrelated events happening in the same book. If Super-girl had been in the back-up somebody probably would have claimed she was Darkseid's daughter too.

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    #15  Edited By MonkeyToe

    OH MY GAWD HAVE YOU PEOPLE HEARD! SUPERGIRL IS DARKSEID'S DAUGHTER!

    :p

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    #16  Edited By Afro_Warrior

    @MonkeyToe:

    lol

    I read it on the internet, so it MUST BE TRUE!!

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    #17  Edited By MonkeyToe

    lol. And even if I am proven wrong, Supergirl will always be Darkseid's daughter in my mind. Witness the powah of teh internetz!

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    #18  Edited By DEGRAAF

    From the preview of future Justice League Dark Covers looks like Raven is playing a role in it. I expected her to be in JLD as soon as i heard they were going to have a JLD. They have already stated that Zatanna will be joing the JL so maybe Raven will be taking over her spot in the JLD.

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    #19  Edited By Outside_85

    @DEGRAAF: Not according to Lemire, Zatanna is one of the core characters of his JLD.

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    #20  Edited By papad1992

    Why can't the roles of Trigon and Raven switch!!?? Why can't she be the overbearing all-powerful giant mother while he is a Gothic teen who wears black and red with no emotions!? Don't know who would read that but hey since DC flipped the entire universe why not?

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    #21  Edited By DarkShadows

    Maybe this big plans for Raven is another Trigon story, but I doubt that.

    I am hoping that she is going to be a member of JLD.

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    #22  Edited By DEGRAAF

    @Outside_85: if you read the end of Justice League 6 they talk about how Zatanna has joined the JL. That might just mean that all league characters from the 3 teams are considered members of the justice league and then Justice league just has smaller groups within the team (similar to Avengers at times)

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    #23  Edited By Outside_85

    @DEGRAAF: Well that may be, Lemire intends to tell us why its called the Justice League Dark. But Zatanna's membership can have been voided since then, since that scene is still in the 5 years ago section and Zatanna was apparently unfit for duty according to Bruce in JLD #1

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    #24  Edited By DEGRAAF

    @Outside_85: No i believe it was in the back story set in present day when they stated she had joined the team

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    #25  Edited By Saren

    @SuperShafe said:

    I think Pandora is Darksieds daughter.

    I highly doubt that. If she's in the same cosmic tier as Spectre and Phantom Stranger, odds are she's a lot older than Darkseid.

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    #26  Edited By Steps

    She'll be Guy Gardners main squeeze...

    Didn't see that one coming did you.

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    #27  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous
    @ArturoCalaKayVee said:

    Probably going to join JLD or be in some sort of cross-over event that will give her her own on-going or join another book (like JLD)

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    #28  Edited By Outside_85

    @DEGRAAF: I don't, since that little scene is basically the introduction of the concept of supervillains...so what was the League fighting for five years if they didn't have those? (Not to mention the appearance of the League was the blast off for other superheroes emerging.)

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    #29  Edited By HubrisRanger

    My understanding RE: Zatanna was that she was a member of the Justice League in JLD #1, before getting pulled into the Enchantress mess by Xanadu; I would assume her League status still stands. In fact, really, her appearance in JLD seema to be the only tie to the League proper (though I think I've seen Deadman in some JL promo art).

    Back to the proper subject, I think Raven as a member of JLD would be great, especially under Lemire, but I have always gotten the impression that DC has very big plans for her, so we'll see where and when those crop up.

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    #30  Edited By RedR0bin

    She's pandora!

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    #31  Edited By DarkShadows

    @RedR0bin: Not to sound rude but Raven isn't Pandora. In fact, my first impression on Pandora was that it's Raven, too bad I got my prediction wrong.

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    #32  Edited By 202122

    @ArturoCalaKayVee said:

    Probably going to join JLD or be in some sort of cross-over event that will give her her own on-going or join another book (like JLD)

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    I really really hope she doesn't get stuck in the Teen Titans again.

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    Maybe Arella isn't Ravens real mother and Pandora is!

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    @wtk1013: I know your post is 13 days old, but what you're saying could very well be true. However the cover art of Teen Titans #25 leads me to believe that Raven may actually be one of the leaders of the new Forever Evil world.

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    @wtk1013: @king_namor: I have to say I consider it unlikely that they would change who is Ravens mother, like the suspicion from the old DC board about the change in father, I just don't see what the point would be, not at this stage at least. Like, she is already the daughter of one of the most powerful and evil characters of DC, so there shouldn't be the power thats the reason. I could see the reason if Raven was meant to be the doorway to somewhere else, like Heaven or something. (Which I am proposing her mother might have been an angel).

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    @outside_85: That would be pretty neat, she would be like Dante from Devil May Cry. I just wanna see more Raven!!!

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    I'm more worried about her staying on the right side

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    I'm just pissed they changed her look so much.

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    Is the Forever Evil event is going to lead up to Raven's supposedly team book or something? I haven't heard any news about that lately and I'm just wondering.

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    #41  Edited By Outside_85

    Nothing here either, but in the interview with Lobdell we are still stuck with him for (sigh) 5 months more at least before the time travel story ends. I assume (judging the book by it's coming cover) that Raven is the one that doesn't make it back to the present (not that she's been lost, but because she abandoned the others).

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    Looks like DC's big plans for Raven were her chest.

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    #43 the_stegman  Moderator

    @cobramorph: and her stupid new costume and horrible dialogue.

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    I actually like her costume, it actually looks like....You know a raven.

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