So who is the oldest? Cable or Marvel Girl. Because they travel though time so much and visit alternative realities its hard to pin down. But I'm interested in what others think.
hmmm I guess you could say that if she didn't exist then he never would have existed. But since in his time line she wasn't born (and now it looks like she never will be) If she ever comes to exist it would have to be after he was born. (ie. in the main timeline Jen and Scott never had girl)
I guess the question is oldest in what time frame? Present day Cable is supposed to be older, when Cable was growing up in the year 4000 Rachel was like great grandma age. And when exactly was Marvel Girl supposed to be born?
Only thing that seems definitive is Cyclops is kind of a bastard father.
Rachel Summers is the older child than Cable, even in an illusion casted on the death bed of Mastermind to Jean Grey-Summers, Rachel was the older kid than Cable.
A good note also was during the first adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, she always appeared as the older sister for Cable, specially during the time when Cable succumb to his technorganic disease.
my head hurts... i always thought cable was older but then rachels timeline never accurred, i just realized that she would have bn the first born, but because it never accurred cable was born first. i am so confused how do quantum physicist deal with this type of logic..
"my head hurts... i always thought cable was older but then rachels timeline never accurred, i just realized that she would have bn the first born, but because it never accurred cable was born first. i am so confused how do quantum physicist deal with this type of logic.."they probably just make up a word to explain it
Herfengugerschipen= to be confusing and beyond reason
Cable was born in the past. In this continuity, back when Storm was the powerless leader of the X-Men. Rachel was born in a future timeline. So Cable is the older sibling. It's just that timetravel meant that Rachel was older than him when he was born... even though she hadn't been born yet ;)
However, my point still stands, she was born in an alternate future. Even if Jean hadn't died in the past events of Earth-616, it doesn't guarantee that Rachel would have been at the time that Cable was born. There is no logic that dictates that Jean would have conceived at the alternate moment instead of Maddy. Rachel was in her early teens when she was taken away & transformed into a Hound, while Kate Pryde was a mature women in her mid-to-late 40's. Since Kitty Pryde hasn't even hit 25 yet in the present day, then Rachel was born in the future.
Meanwhile, Cable was born in print, in this reality, over 20 years ago. So as I said, he's the eldest child.
it's never been explicitly stated, but ever since X-Men vs The Teen Titans, I've operated under the thought that Rachel was conceived on the butte in New Mexico just before Dark Phoenix happened. Again, this is my own conjecture, but it came from Darkseid lamenting the loss of those phoenix energies, saying they were particularly strong. And Claremont was always hinting that Rachel was created by the Phoenix Force power. ANNNND, adding in pregnancy hormones would also cause a shift in Phoenix that made it harder to control herself, and gave her weird cravings (you know, like the star of an inhabited system).
So to me that makes Rachel older.
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