(It took forever to think up a title for this post!)
Today I'd like to delve into a topic which bothers me incredibly- Rachel Grey, the alternate future daughter of Jean Grey and Cyclops. Although, come to think of it, I think she showed up around the mid 80s, can it really be called an alternate future anymore?  
At any rate, she apparently attended Xavier's as a child (note the fact that her appearance occurred while the only real students of the school were the New Mutants, and therefore the student body wasn't even really big enough to call a private school), where she was when sentinels attacked and killed everyone...except her, who they captured and trained as a ' hound'. She was spared because of her telepathic powers, which were then used to track and kill other mutants, and is stated to have killed her fair share of innocents. She escaped into the past, stuff happened, and I'm quite certain her character page sums it up far better than I could. At any rate, she showed up out of the blue one day in the 80s.
Firstly, I'd like to say that I don't dislike her for being the progeny of Jean and Cyclops. That would be a really stupid reason to dislike anyone, let alone a comic book character. I dislike her for a variety of reasons, which are, in no particular order:
 
1) Her odd fixation with Jean Grey  

" @The Dark Huntress: she is the only one that isn't pure mother "

@jordama said:

I wouldn't call her feelings toward jean a fixation. Alternate timeline kids develop feelings toward their 616 parents. This is seen in TJ and Nightcrawler.

About her being obnoxious, she is acting like a child that has been betrayed by her father. Many times when a parent moves on it brings up the idea that they really didn't love the parent that is no longer there. I can believe that Rachel actively hates Emma because she in a way replaced her mother.

I never really cared for that acr to begin with, but I think something was said that she wanted to change because of something.

Some kids take after one parent more than the other. X-Man and cable lean more towards Jean than the do Scott. The future kids that Scott and Emma might have seem more like Emma except Ruby.

This is what i get from what i've read of rachel, I mean writers tend to not know what to do with her, but she's gotten better and is joining legacy. We probably won't see her interact too much with emma since she's joining wolverine's side, but i am assuming she will have an argument with cyclops which is why she ditches him.

And at least now they have made her powers different from jean's, she now has blue fire even after losing her phoenix powers. She is also not covering her hound markings so because of her long hiatus from x-men they have a chance to fix her character who has been iffy.

But how would you be acting if you ended up in a reality where your parents who died in your reality existed, your father then ends up with another woman, your mom dies and you realize you won't be born here and therefore you can't see how different your life could have been if your parents were alive.

Plus she looks so much like her mother, she lives in jean's shadow(though her fault for taking the marvel girl mantle) and even though she idolizes jean when she died she had to essentially take her place. Plus she had to deal with her mom dying AGAIN, rachel should be completely insane.

She's still better than Hope who has an obvious jean connection and is a total brat for no reason. She was far more likable with cable and wonder if hope and rachel will talk able cable since they both loved him so much and rachel doesn't know he's dead yet.

@jordama said:

@The Dark Huntress: but didn't he get that more from the way he was raised than genetics

To some extent, tactical aptitude relies on the ability to reason and apply logic, which can be genetic.

@EnSabahNurX: In that situation, I would try to put my needs far after those of the alternate dimension versions of the people I care about, especially if they humored me to the extent that everyone did with Rachel. Keeping in mind that they have lives of their own and wanting them to be happy, I'd try to rely on them as little as possible to minimize the burden I would create and work towards self-sufficiency, 'getting a life' and such. Mind you, that's just me.

She looks nearly IDENTICAL to her mother. And you seem to underestimate the resilience of the human psyche- Rachel wouldn't be insane, per se, she'd just be really really sad for a period of time and then gradually move on.

I find Hope's behaviour as of late both amusing and odd. For some reason, I seem to recall Cable being rather...abrasive at times, in the past, so her behaving in such an irritating manner could stem from him, possibly. However, what we've been shown of Hope's childhood gives us no really plausible reason for her obnoxiousness.

@squares: Kitty said that rachel acts like a 7 year old kid whenever around scott and jean that was even before the wedding. Days or months before the wedding, Jean told Rachel that he was to say yes to scott's proposal. She informed Rachel first even before scott. It only meant that jean accepted her as her child already. I dont think scott had any problems accepting his kids from any timeline. I think he accepted the fact that he is one horny guy who spreads his seeds a lot.

Regarding emma, i believe that just like me, she is still a fan of the jean and cyke relationship.

...and yes she inherited her mother's temper too. I'm sure Psylocke would understand. But we also have to site that she also inherited her mother's heart. She knows how to look out for her friends and loved ones. In excalibur days, she always flares up whenever someone attacks kitty. In x-men legacy, I love the way she supports Rogue when rogue was down during schism because his bf magneto chose to be on cyclop's side.

@darthphoenix: I don't really see what you mean by Cyclops 'spreading his seeds', he's been in like...four relationships, ever, and has one kid.

@squares:

kids of scott: cable (with maddie), ruby(with emma), rachel(with phoenix force)

@darthphoenix: Notice that all those characters exist in different timelines, ergo he has like one kid per timeline.

Unlike wolverine cyke only had one kid in this timeline Nathan, with his wife at the time Madelyne... Rachel, Ruby, Nate and Megan are all alternate timeline children a alternate timeline Cyke had with alternate timeline women...

So, she's lost her parents in the future, spent considerable time in a concentration camp - Wolverine outright compared her to a holocaust survivor - and was made to hunt her own kind, before seeing her husband (DOFP!Franklin) vaporised in front of her eyes, lost her best friend (DOFP!Kitty Pryde, though she seems to get on with the present version like a house on fire) and you're surprised that she latches on to the counterpart of her mother?

Furthermore, you're actually surprised that she hated Emma, who, let's face it, basically psychically raped her father (at the very least, what she did to him when he came to her for therapy was a staggering betrayal of trust and violation of medical ethics), played a key role in her mother/the Phoenix going insane in the Dark Phoenix Saga (she gave Mastermind the means to get into Jean's mind), something which she's pretty likely to know considering her association with the Phoenix, after the emotional body blow of losing her mother for the second time (from her point of view) and generally gave Rachel little enough reason to like or trust her? Sure, they've patched things up since, but still. Issues.

On that note, she has staggering amounts of psychological damage. All of the Grey-Summers kids do: Rachel's a repeatedly bereaved future Holocaust survivor who was enslaved and literally treated like a hunting dog, leash and all, with colossal PTSD, Cable's a grizzled time travelling veteran with what is likely even worse PTSD and similar bereavement issues (but either the experience to deal with them or suppress them) whose mother is dead/insane, Stryfe is an evil, deranged clone raised by Apocalypse and Nate is an artificially created living weapon who lost the closest thing he ever had to a father, whose unconscious attempt to reach out to his mother resurrected Madelyn Pryor, was hunted by just about everyone, spent years thinking he was going to die at pretty much any moment, then spent several years dead, then alive, then strapped to a battery and all but stripped of his powers.

And, let's face it, they all fixate on Jean to one extent or another. It's Scott's genes, I swear.

Speaking of Scott's genes, I think the blue eyes and occasional interpersonal difficulties show that she takes after daddy. To be honest, temper aside, Nate and Cable both take pretty strongly after their father in looks and personality (well, Nate is more of a mixture). It's hardly surprising that she takes after her mother.

So, lay off Rachel, eh?

I just wish writers would explore more her "time" powers. It really does make her one of the most powerful mutants. her time/fourth dimensional pulse works without her even knowing it. what more if she tries to use and hone her chronal abilities

She never married Franklin but she did date him and he was her first love.

Anyway, Rachel is the greatest example of a PTSD character and one of the few that Marvel still actually uses regularly. So of course she has spaz out moments, that and many writers have no idea how to write or use her. As for her being manipulated? That's usually CC writing her in those cases. It's a common trope that he has Rachel manipulated by evil to fight her friends.

Rachel is acting more like Cyclops than Jean anyway. Rachel, while wanting to save lives, is willing to take bad press if it means protecting her friends and those she's responsible for. Not to mention that in "X-Men" Vol. 4, Rachel has shown a huge interest in being a leader which is what her father is most famous for. That and his fixation with Jean and his optic blasts.

Rachel has shown good leadership skills in x-men. She has been 2nd in command and have been calling most of the shots. she has been trying her best to be like scott but has inherited jean's temper. Rachel has always been protective of her loved ones and mutantkind in general. very much like scott. just like jean, she always make it a point to be personally close to her team mates. though she is still far from being the heart of the x-men because of her bitchy temperament

@inhumanityrises: Huh. I thought they were married. Either way.

These are stupid reasons