Tony Starks was never a dictator.
Punisher
Character » Punisher appears in 2803 issues.
When U.S. Marine veteran Frank Castle's family's was murdered for witnessing a mob hit, the man vowed to avenge their deaths and became a one-man army in his personal war against the criminal underworld. With a distinct death's head skull adorning his chest, Frank Castle became the vigilante known as the Punisher.
who should punisher kill in marvel?
last month would have said the Hood, but he's grown on me, so have him kill Menace or a Brand New Day villain
HIMSELF!
One of my favorite lines in the movie was the lady telling him "Who punishes you?!"
I don't know it kind of made sense to me XD
" last month would have said the Hood, but he's grown on me, so have him kill Menace or a Brand New Day villain "I would be happy if the hood was dead.
I know a lot of people hate Stark in this thread, but it is not like he broke the law. Technically, speaking the heroes on Caps side were breaking the law by going againts the United States government and resisting arrest. Now realistically speaking the initiative wasn't awful. It had some good points and would of been a good law except for 3 or 4 major issues.
- The only things that made it terrible was, forcing superheroes to reveal their identity to the general public (if heroes only revealed their identities to shield and made sure they were not leaked it would be okay. So only the shield and maybe the president had access to them.
- Forcing heroes to work for the government instead of giving them the option to retire or do some other job, this part gets complicated, but it was a big flaw of the initiative
- than the initiative employing super villains, which I still don't fully understand
" but if you register which is fine, you should also be allowed to leave whenever you want. tony took that option away from peter.i have no problem arresting vigilantes when they are caught b/c lets face it all heroes are just that. but, forcing them to register is wrong. now lets talk about who else punisher can kill, we'll leave tony for the future death column. :) "You're saying that something Iron Man did to save everyone makes him a criminal.That's a direct contradiction.
" saving everyone from what? if i were to take away ppl's guns and cars and said it was to save their lives, they would fight me tooth and nails... just because something is legal doesnt mean its the morally right thing to do. "I explained already. Did you read any of Tony's dialogue in Civil War?
"@Dark King said:" saving everyone from what? if i were to take away ppl's guns and cars and said it was to save their lives, they would fight me tooth and nails... just because something is legal doesnt mean its the morally right thing to do. "I explained already. Did you read any of Tony's dialogue in Civil War?Tony was trying to keep the American Government off the superhero community and keep the people they are trying to save, the American public..believing they are the heroes.Before Stamford,heroes did whatever they wanted.His gripe about that was how are people supposed to trust them when they have people they don't know running around as costumed heroes with no consequence for their actions? There's more too it but you get the gist.Tony explained all of this to Captain America before they fought."
and you must not have read any of Caps Rebuttals to Tonys paper thin argument
" @Vance Astro said:I read the whole thing.Cap's rebuttals were just as dumb as what Tony was saying."@Dark King said:and you must not have read any of Caps Rebuttals to Tonys paper thin argument "" saving everyone from what? if i were to take away ppl's guns and cars and said it was to save their lives, they would fight me tooth and nails... just because something is legal doesnt mean its the morally right thing to do. "I explained already. Did you read any of Tony's dialogue in Civil War?Tony was trying to keep the American Government off the superhero community and keep the people they are trying to save, the American public..believing they are the heroes.Before Stamford,heroes did whatever they wanted.His gripe about that was how are people supposed to trust them when they have people they don't know running around as costumed heroes with no consequence for their actions? There's more too it but you get the gist.Tony explained all of this to Captain America before they fought."
"punisher just snipes tony during a board meeting, just to end this debate."
While disguised as a memeber of the board... And casually walks out undetected...
" @Dark King said:nah.......he would just snipe him out from across the street."punisher just snipes tony during a board meeting, just to end this debate."While disguised as a memeber of the board... And casually walks out undetected... "
i hope castle blows that idiot modok away pretty soon. the guys essentially a cube with puny limbs. a quick rpg will take him out.
Well if you look at the dark reign story arc Frank is really pissin osbourne off .......I mean ya never know
Maybe Frank will end osbourne ...I can see that.
" Tony Stark.Reed Richards.I'm not even going to go into all the reasons they are dictators, fascists, criminals. This is a comic book site, and people won't change their opinions, even in the face of overwhelming fact. "explain it to me pls...
saw a scan of black cat wanting to be a burglar again. it got me wondering why frank hasnt gone after her before. she is a known thief criminal regardless of helping spidey and other heroes from time to time.
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