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    When U.S. Marine veteran Frank Castle's family's was murdered for witnessing a mob hit, the man vowed to avenge their deaths and became a one-man army in his personal war against the criminal underworld. With a distinct death's head skull adorning his chest, Frank Castle became the vigilante known as the Punisher.

    Punisher max only blood sex and gore

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    i understand that max is supposed to be an adult comic, i have been reading it now for 10 issues, the jason aaron run and there seems to be nothing but explicit content like the comic says
    every few panels you get a sex scene naked girls, extreme violence, no story ,perverted characters
    it seems just trying tooooooooooooooo hard to be adult, it comes off as very immature, extremely unbalanced

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    #3  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt

    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis'  the Boys is the same way. 

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    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis'  the Boys is the same way. 
    mature stories dont need over extreme  violence and sex only used when needed
    just look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
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    #5  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis'  the Boys is the same way. 
    mature stories dont need over extreme  violence and sex only used when neededjust look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
    Exactly. It's a sign of immaturity and inability in the writer when they have to resort to gratuities. 
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    #6  Edited By entropy_aegis

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.
    mature stories dont need over extreme violence and sex only used when neededjust look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
    Exactly. It's a sign of immaturity and inability in the writer when they have to resort to gratuities.

    And yet when certain people complain about this,the writer(Lobdell,Winick) just come out and say"it's adult".

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    #7  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
    @entropy_aegis said:

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.
    mature stories dont need over extreme violence and sex only used when neededjust look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
    Exactly. It's a sign of immaturity and inability in the writer when they have to resort to gratuities.

    And yet when certain people complain about this,the writer(Lobdell,Winick) just come out and say"it's adult".

    That's because they're both imbeciles (sighs) 
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    #8  Edited By entropy_aegis

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @entropy_aegis said:

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.
    mature stories dont need over extreme violence and sex only used when neededjust look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
    Exactly. It's a sign of immaturity and inability in the writer when they have to resort to gratuities.

    And yet when certain people complain about this,the writer(Lobdell,Winick) just come out and say"it's adult".

    That's because they're both imbeciles (sighs)

    Yeah they should take a lesson from Brian Azzarelo.

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    #9  Edited By KainScion

    i like punisher max. good monologues.

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    @entropy_aegis said:

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.
    mature stories dont need over extreme violence and sex only used when neededjust look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
    Exactly. It's a sign of immaturity and inability in the writer when they have to resort to gratuities.

    And yet when certain people complain about this,the writer(Lobdell,Winick) just come out and say"it's adult".

    i am afraid  i dont understand your comment
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    #11  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @entropy_aegis said:

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.
    mature stories dont need over extreme violence and sex only used when neededjust look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
    Exactly. It's a sign of immaturity and inability in the writer when they have to resort to gratuities.

    And yet when certain people complain about this,the writer(Lobdell,Winick) just come out and say"it's adult".

    i am afraid  i dont understand your comment
    In an interview I asked Winick why he felt the need to desecrate Talia's character by having her sleep with Jason, and he just said it was because they're both adults -____-
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    #12  Edited By ReVamp
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @entropy_aegis said:

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.
    mature stories dont need over extreme violence and sex only used when neededjust look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
    Exactly. It's a sign of immaturity and inability in the writer when they have to resort to gratuities.

    And yet when certain people complain about this,the writer(Lobdell,Winick) just come out and say"it's adult".

    i am afraid  i dont understand your comment
    In an interview I asked Winick why he felt the need to desecrate Talia's character by having her sleep with Jason, and he just said it was because they're both adults -____-
    Oh, I thought you were going to pull the Catwoman card. That works too.
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    #13  Edited By cody1984

    @higher_evolutionary said:

    i understand that max is supposed to be an adult comic, i have been reading it now for 10 issues, the jason aaron run and there seems to be nothing but explicit content like the comic says every few panels you get a sex scene naked girls, extreme violence, no story ,perverted characters it seems just trying tooooooooooooooo hard to be adult, it comes off as very immature, extremely unbalanced

    Ennis run is better than Aaron's run although I do like Aaron's run...so Ennis run might be more to your liking. As far as mature storytelling goes the slavers arc was one the best if not the best Punisher MAX story arc and dealt with sexual slavery. As far as perverted characters and nudity goes this is a Punisher comic and even going back to the old days of people like Mike Baron and Chuck Dixon writing the character the Punisher dealt with characters that were insane, sadistic, and disturbed. An example of this would be the original Punisher ongoing series featured Frank Castle busting up a child pornography ring and nudity and sex why not shown were always there in Punisher comics it just wasn't shown graphically like it is in the MAX series. As far as no story goes I'm really not getting how you come to this conclusion. Compared to superhero comics the series tends to have much better writing since in superhero comics the superheroes just tend to fight the same villains over and over again in each issue which to me is extreme laziness...not to mention stupid crossovers and big events which tends to ruin the flow of over comic series.

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    #14  Edited By cody1984

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.

    No its not. Garth Ennis series the Boys pretty much a pure black comedy parody of superhero comics. The closest Punisher equivalent would be Ennis run on the Punisher in the marvel knights series. When Ennis wrote the MAX series it had a completely different feel to the book with comic being serious and having virtually no black comedy in it whatsoever. Aaron's run is somewhere in-between Garth's MAX and Marvel Knights Punisher runs but not like the Boys.

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    #15  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
    @cody1984 said:

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.

    No its not. Garth Ennis series the Boys pretty much a pure black comedy parody of superhero comics. The closest Punisher equivalent would be Ennis run on the Punisher in the marvel knights series. When Ennis wrote the MAX series it had a completely different feel to the book with comic being serious and having virtually no black comedy in it whatsoever. Aaron's run is somewhere in-between Garth's MAX and Marvel Knights Punisher runs but not like the Boys.

    I meant in terms of gratuitous violence and sex it's the same.
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    @cody1984 said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:

    i understand that max is supposed to be an adult comic, i have been reading it now for 10 issues, the jason aaron run and there seems to be nothing but explicit content like the comic says every few panels you get a sex scene naked girls, extreme violence, no story ,perverted characters it seems just trying tooooooooooooooo hard to be adult, it comes off as very immature, extremely unbalanced

    Ennis run is better than Aaron's run although I do like Aaron's run...so Ennis run might be more to your liking. As far as mature storytelling goes the slavers arc was one the best if not the best Punisher MAX story arc and dealt with sexual slavery. As far as perverted characters and nudity goes this is a Punisher comic and even going back to the old days of people like Mike Baron and Chuck Dixon writing the character the Punisher dealt with characters that were insane, sadistic, and disturbed. An example of this would be the original Punisher ongoing series featured Frank Castle busting up a child pornography ring and nudity and sex why not shown were always there in Punisher comics it just wasn't shown graphically like it is in the MAX series. As far as no story goes I'm really not getting how you come to this conclusion. Compared to superhero comics the series tends to have much better writing since in superhero comics the superheroes just tend to fight the same villains over and over again in each issue which to me is extreme laziness...not to mention stupid crossovers and big events which tends to ruin the flow of over comic series.

    i tend to prefer vertigo image, mainly adult titles so to let you know
     how did i come to this conclusion, look: puisher caught, punisher goes to jail, punisher gets out of jail, punisher wants to kill fisk, fisk hiding in tower with his whores hires elektra who turns out to be a lesbian also has sex with her, plus the issues consist with manly shooting ripping killing f#$king tons of profanity with little progression
    i prefer 616 also very violent but not retardly written
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @entropy_aegis said:

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:
    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.
    mature stories dont need over extreme violence and sex only used when neededjust look at watchmen , swampthing, sandman trsanmetropolition
    Exactly. It's a sign of immaturity and inability in the writer when they have to resort to gratuities.

    And yet when certain people complain about this,the writer(Lobdell,Winick) just come out and say"it's adult".

    i am afraid  i dont understand your comment
    In an interview I asked Winick why he felt the need to desecrate Talia's character by having her sleep with Jason, and he just said it was because they're both adults -____-

    this pretty much confirms my theory of writers for adult/mature stories have a mindset of a 12 year old who thinks once he turns 18 he can have sex with anyone even his dog :P
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    #17  Edited By cody1984

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @cody1984 said:

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    I haven't read the story itself, but I know what you mean. Garth Ennis' the Boys is the same way.

    No its not. Garth Ennis series the Boys pretty much a pure black comedy parody of superhero comics. The closest Punisher equivalent would be Ennis run on the Punisher in the marvel knights series. When Ennis wrote the MAX series it had a completely different feel to the book with comic being serious and having virtually no black comedy in it whatsoever. Aaron's run is somewhere in-between Garth's MAX and Marvel Knights Punisher runs but not like the Boys.

    I meant in terms of gratuitous violence and sex it's the same.

    The Punisher has always featured gratuitous violence though way before Garth Ennis became a major comic book writer so I don't get your point there. As far as Sex goes it is nowhere near over the top like the boys is. MAX Punisher and the Boys are quite different from each other with only a few similarities on the surface.

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    #18  Edited By cody1984

    @higher_evolutionary said:

    @cody1984 said:

    @higher_evolutionary said:

    i understand that max is supposed to be an adult comic, i have been reading it now for 10 issues, the jason aaron run and there seems to be nothing but explicit content like the comic says every few panels you get a sex scene naked girls, extreme violence, no story ,perverted characters it seems just trying tooooooooooooooo hard to be adult, it comes off as very immature, extremely unbalanced

    Ennis run is better than Aaron's run although I do like Aaron's run...so Ennis run might be more to your liking. As far as mature storytelling goes the slavers arc was one the best if not the best Punisher MAX story arc and dealt with sexual slavery. As far as perverted characters and nudity goes this is a Punisher comic and even going back to the old days of people like Mike Baron and Chuck Dixon writing the character the Punisher dealt with characters that were insane, sadistic, and disturbed. An example of this would be the original Punisher ongoing series featured Frank Castle busting up a child pornography ring and nudity and sex why not shown were always there in Punisher comics it just wasn't shown graphically like it is in the MAX series. As far as no story goes I'm really not getting how you come to this conclusion. Compared to superhero comics the series tends to have much better writing since in superhero comics the superheroes just tend to fight the same villains over and over again in each issue which to me is extreme laziness...not to mention stupid crossovers and big events which tends to ruin the flow of over comic series.

    i tend to prefer vertigo image, mainly adult titles so to let you know
    how did i come to this conclusion, look: puisher caught, punisher goes to jail, punisher gets out of jail, punisher wants to kill fisk, fisk hiding in tower with his whores hires elektra who turns out to be a lesbian also has sex with her, plus the issues consist with manly shooting ripping killing f#$king tons of profanity with little progression

    The MAX version of the Punisher has over a hundred issues total and has been continous with only its title's name being changed after Aaron took over writing the book. The Punisher was only shown to be in jail in the Cell one shot and the End one shot. The first time him being in jail on purpose to kill those who ordered the hit in central park that killed his family. The End is basically a one shot showing how the Punisher might die in the MAX series. Aaron hasn't been abusing "the Punisher goes to jail and breaks out" since the two times it was shown one story was essentially a what if and the other was only one issue. Now I do agree that the Punisher being in jail wasn't the greatest Punisher story ever told but it was important to his overall run on the Punisher. As far the profanity and violence goes what do you expect? It's f***ing Punisher comic your going to have that especially it being a MAX book.

    i prefer 616 also very violent but not retardly written

    You obviously haven't read Fraction's run on the Punisher, Punisher Purgatory, or FrankenCastle if you believe that.

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    #19  Edited By jrock85

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    In an interview I asked Winick why he felt the need to desecrate Talia's character by having her sleep with Jason, and he just said it was because they're both adults -____-

    HE SAID WHAT?!?

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    #20  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
    @jrock85: Yup, seriously. He implied I was childish by saying it was ridiculous. 
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    #21  Edited By jrock85

    @FadeToBlackBolt said:

    @jrock85: Yup, seriously. He implied I was childish by saying it was ridiculous.

    He really doesn't see any merit to all the vitriol? UGHHHH!

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    #22  Edited By BADJEREMIE

    I like Punisher max(Jason Aaron run and Garth Ennis run too) but if you dont like it dont read it go read something else.

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