"Will Punish for ammo" haha...that's awesome

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

@JonesDeini said:

@cody1984 said:

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

They're no whole new characters, but Aaron's doing fresh takes on them which I can appreciate. I absolutely loved the way he wrote Bullseye so to each his own on that note. I say let's wait and see who/what he comes up with. If he can whip up more enemies half as awesome as the Mennonite while writing the established villains of the Marvel U as well as he has then I see myself reading this book for years to come.

If you mean by whole new characters as in "its all been done before" I agree with that mostly. What I'm saying though is in Mother Russia we got introduced to Rawlins, General Zakharov, and the Generals that became interesting challenges for Frank and were quite different from other villains he had faced. I'm not seeing that with Aaron's run.

@JonesDeini said:

@cody1984 said:

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

They're no whole new characters, but Aaron's doing fresh takes on them which I can appreciate. I absolutely loved the way he wrote Bullseye so to each his own on that note. I say let's wait and see who/what he comes up with. If he can whip up more enemies half as awesome as the Mennonite while writing the established villains of the Marvel U as well as he has then I see myself reading this book for years to come.

If you mean by whole new characters as in "its all been done before" I agree with that mostly. What I'm saying though is in Mother Russia we got introduced to Rawlins, General Zakharov, and the Generals that became interesting challenges for Frank and were quite different from other villains he had faced. I'm not seeing that with Aaron's run.

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

@ZORN said:

@cody1984 said:

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

How come? I do admit he was over the top, but when I learned what character Aaron used in his rendition of this character I liked him even more.

He was to over the top for me. Also the figuring out where all of the Punisher's safe houses were I thought was a cheap way of getting rid of Frank's vast arsenal.

@ZORN said:

@cody1984 said:

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

How come? I do admit he was over the top, but when I learned what character Aaron used in his rendition of this character I liked him even more.

He was to over the top for me. Also the figuring out where all of the Punisher's safe houses were I thought was a cheap way of getting rid of Frank's vast arsenal.

@JonesDeini said:

@cody1984 said:

@ZORN said:

@cody1984 said:

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

How come? I do admit he was over the top, but when I learned what character Aaron used in his rendition of this character I liked him even more.

He was to over the top for me. Also the figuring out where all of the Punisher's safe houses were I thought was a cheap way of getting rid of Frank's vast arsenal.

Max is supposed to be over top. And crazy as he is, Bullseye supposed to be one of the worlds best mercs so him doing intel to track down likely safe houses for Frank worked for me. Especially considering that this quit being a job and became personal for him, and obsession.

Huh? The Punisher's MAX imprint is suppose to be pretty much the real world. So Bullseye didn't make much sense how he figured everything out. If it was the regular marvel universe I wouldn't care since that world is completely over the top.

@JonesDeini said:

@cody1984 said:

@ZORN said:

@cody1984 said:

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

How come? I do admit he was over the top, but when I learned what character Aaron used in his rendition of this character I liked him even more.

He was to over the top for me. Also the figuring out where all of the Punisher's safe houses were I thought was a cheap way of getting rid of Frank's vast arsenal.

Max is supposed to be over top. And crazy as he is, Bullseye supposed to be one of the worlds best mercs so him doing intel to track down likely safe houses for Frank worked for me. Especially considering that this quit being a job and became personal for him, and obsession.

Huh? The Punisher's MAX imprint is suppose to be pretty much the real world. So Bullseye didn't make much sense how he figured everything out. If it was the regular marvel universe I wouldn't care since that world is completely over the top.

@JonesDeini said:

@cody1984 said:

@ZORN said:

@cody1984 said:

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

How come? I do admit he was over the top, but when I learned what character Aaron used in his rendition of this character I liked him even more.

He was to over the top for me. Also the figuring out where all of the Punisher's safe houses were I thought was a cheap way of getting rid of Frank's vast arsenal.

Max is supposed to be over top. And crazy as he is, Bullseye supposed to be one of the worlds best mercs so him doing intel to track down likely safe houses for Frank worked for me. Especially considering that this quit being a job and became personal for him, and obsession.

Huh? The Punisher's MAX imprint is suppose to be pretty much the real world. So Bullseye didn't make much sense how he figured everything out. If it was the regular marvel universe I wouldn't care since that world is completely over the top.

To be fair Commando never got beat up the way Frank constantly does in MAX. The Punisher routinely gets hurt in the series showing that while he is definately badass he is not a god or have "a god mode."

@JonesDeini said:

@cody1984 said:

@JonesDeini said:

@cody1984 said:

@ZORN said:

@cody1984 said:

No offense but can't Aaron come up with some original enemies for Frank? Kingpin was actually done well, Bullseye just got on my nerves, and with Elektra we pretty much already know what to expect so there is no mystery to the enemies Frank is facing that we've had before in the MAX series.

How come? I do admit he was over the top, but when I learned what character Aaron used in his rendition of this character I liked him even more.

He was to over the top for me. Also the figuring out where all of the Punisher's safe houses were I thought was a cheap way of getting rid of Frank's vast arsenal.

Max is supposed to be over top. And crazy as he is, Bullseye supposed to be one of the worlds best mercs so him doing intel to track down likely safe houses for Frank worked for me. Especially considering that this quit being a job and became personal for him, and obsession.

Huh? The Punisher's MAX imprint is suppose to be pretty much the real world. So Bullseye didn't make much sense how he figured everything out. If it was the regular marvel universe I wouldn't care since that world is completely over the top.

You know I wrote a response and it even had a neat and humorous video to go with it. And it wouldn't post. So yeah, screw it. Suffice it to say, to each his own, bro.

Your response got posted.

I hated what he did to Frank's marriage and the kids...

I hated what he did to Frank's marriage and the kids...

@JonesDeinisaid:

@cody1984:
So it did and love the scans. I was being hyperbolic earlier but Frank walks away from some crazy beat downs that a man his age should't get up from. But I must admit that's one of the things I like about the series. Frank may walk away from some crazy brawls but he does feel the aftershock for a reasonable amount of time thereafter.

This is one area where I will give Aaron more credit than Garth in showing that Frank's age does matter.

@JonesDeini said:

@RazielWraith said:

I hated what he did to Frank's marriage and the kids...

Why? If you think about it, it all makes perfect sense. Especially considering this is Max Frank.

I actually see his point. We all know how Frank's family died and to revisit this again and make it even more depressing with Frank being completely out of touch with his family wasn't exactly what some people wanted to see and thought it was just a bad move. I get why Aaron did it and I agree it makes sense but I can see how people don't like it.

IMO The Punisher: Born and now this, is just some very important details of what he would become later. Aaron is exploring Frank's psych even further than Garth.

IMO The Punisher: Born and now this, is just some very important details of what he would become later. Aaron is exploring Frank's psych even further than Garth.