Punisher Forum

Punisher is a comic book character that first appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man #129

who should punisher kill in marvel?

Topic started by Dark King on June 23, 2009. Last post by castleking 4 weeks ago.
Post by Dark King (2,375 posts) See mini bio

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@k4tzm4n said:
" @Dark King said:
"that also sounds like something rick james would say played by dave chapelle"
After Stilt-Man reformed?....Stilt-Man was opening fire on a crowded street in broad daylight.... "
so what its not like frank or tony  arent guilty of the same thing ...


Post by Vance Astro (51,903 posts) See mini bio

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@Dark King said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @Dark King said:
"that also sounds like something rick james would say played by dave chapelle"
After Stilt-Man reformed?....Stilt-Man was opening fire on a crowded street in broad daylight.... "
so what its not like frank or tony  arent guilty of the same thing ... "
What is that supposed to mean?


Post by Dark King (2,375 posts) See mini bio

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shooting in broad daylight endangering civilians..... also are or have bn  criminals.


Post by Vance Astro (51,903 posts) See mini bio

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@Dark King said:
" shooting in broad daylight endangering civilians..... also are or have bn  criminals. "
When did Iron Man endanger civilians?
When was Iron Man a criminal or even the Punisher for that matter?


Post by geraldthesloth (22,017 posts) See mini bio

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Punisher should kill Mac Gargan or Bullseye...Both bug the hell out of me.


Post by Calvin (1,725 posts) See mini bio

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Himself?


Post by Dark King (2,375 posts) See mini bio

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@Vance Astro said:
" @Dark King said:
" shooting in broad daylight endangering civilians..... also are or have bn  criminals. "
When did Iron Man endanger civilians?
When was Iron Man a criminal or even the Punisher for that matter?
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you are kidding right? 

tony has killed a U.N. official attacked and injured many superheroes because he felt they all had stark tech which not all of them did,, he was responsible for a plane crash and death of the  civilians, lastly the civil war and WWH debacle killed many innocent ppl for which tony was solely responsible by his unilateral actions...


Post by Rothschild (900 posts) See mini bio

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@geraldthesloth said:
"Punisher should kill Mac Gargan or Bullseye...Both bug the hell out of me."

Isnt Gargon  Venom?


Post by geraldthesloth (22,017 posts) See mini bio

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@Rothschild said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
"Punisher should kill Mac Gargan or Bullseye...Both bug the hell out of me."
Isnt Gargon  Venom? "
yeah.


Post by ARMIV (1,885 posts) See mini bio

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@Rothschild: Eddie Brock was/is Venom,Mac Gargan is just his replacement.


Post by Aronmorales (4,185 posts) See mini bio

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I think Bullseye.


Post by Vance Astro (51,903 posts) See mini bio

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@Dark King said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @Dark King said:
" shooting in broad daylight endangering civilians..... also are or have bn  criminals. "
When did Iron Man endanger civilians?
When was Iron Man a criminal or even the Punisher for that matter?
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you are kidding right?  tony has killed a U.N. official attacked and injured many superheroes because he felt they all had stark tech which not all of them did,, he was responsible for a plane crash and death of the  civilians, lastly the civil war and WWH debacle killed many innocent ppl for which tony was solely responsible by his unilateral actions... "
No i'm not kidding.None of that makes him a criminal.Iron Man does what he thinks is "right".What actually happens doesn't matter,his intentions are what matters.
Civil War doesn't make Tony a criminal and more accurately he was more of a hero because he was following the laws of the registration act.All the other hereos not on his side "weren't".
World War Hulk was an accident.
Accidents don't make you a criminal.


Post by Dark King (2,375 posts) See mini bio

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i accidentally hit a cop because he tackled me and i still went to jail.
ppl have accidentally hit run over ppl and some still go to jail.
ppl have accidentally shot others but they still go to jail.
saying sorry doesnt get you a free pass.

i notice you didnt answer the death of a plane crash he caused or the U.N> official. just because he was found innocent in a court of law or was covered up by shield doesnt mean he is innocent especially to ppl like frank.


Post by Vance Astro (51,903 posts) See mini bio

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@Dark King said:
" i accidentally hit a cop because he tackled me and i still went to jail.ppl have accidentally hit run over ppl and some still go to jail.ppl have accidentally shot others but they still go to jail.saying sorry doesnt get you a free pass.i notice you didnt answer the death of a plane crash he caused or the U.N> official. just because he was found innocent in a court of law or was covered up by shield doesnt mean he is innocent especially to ppl like frank. "
You're measuring it by realistic standards.Stark is a superhero.They have a different law system than we do.The things they do that aren't intentional are overlooked until Civil War.Spider-Man "accidentally" killed Gwen Stacy,the only person who calls him a criminal is the man who has been making up stuff about him since day one.


Post by Dark King (2,375 posts) See mini bio

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spidey may have killed gwen but it was during an act of heroism that would have caused her death regardless, very different from what tony has done.


Post by Vance Astro (51,903 posts) See mini bio

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@Dark King said:
" spidey may have killed gwen but it was during an act of heroism that would have caused her death regardless, very different from what tony has done. "
No it isn't.Everything Tony has done was intended to keep people out of harms way.The Registration act especially.


Post by Dark King (2,375 posts) See mini bio

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it always starts with doing the  right thing and asking ppl to register. i am sure no dictator has ever asked a ggroup of its population to register due to being different. i am sure nothing bad can ever happen when you police a small group of ppl.  * rolls eyes


Post by jefprice (541 posts) See mini bio

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@Dark King: Crossbones maybe. A return from jigsaw would interesting and appropriate. Other wise some sort of heroic death that would make the upstanding heroes such as the Avengers respect him would be best. Maybe at the hands of Osborn....


Post by Vance Astro (51,903 posts) See mini bio

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@Dark King said:
" it always starts with doing the  right thing and asking ppl to register. i am sure no dictator has ever asked a ggroup of its population to register due to being different. i am sure nothing bad can ever happen when you police a small group of ppl.  * rolls eyes "
Tony isn't a dictator.He was opposed to the registration in the beginning.Than he decided it would keep the government off the superhero community,train new heroes so that Stamford never happens again,and make people trust superheroes if they all registered.That's thinking practically not being a dictator.


Post by Dark King (2,375 posts) See mini bio

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but if you register which is fine, you should also be allowed to leave whenever you want. tony took that option away from peter.
i have no problem arresting vigilantes when they are caught b/c lets face it all heroes are just that. but, forcing them to register is wrong. now lets talk about who else punisher can kill, we'll leave tony for the future death column.   :)


Post by Sidney (1,290 posts) See mini bio

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Tony Starks was never a dictator.



Post by mister garbage (34 posts) See mini bio

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@LastSon1027 said:
" Joe Quesada?!?!? "
nah... Jeph Loeb


Post by Nova`Prime` (882 posts) See mini bio

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@Dark King: Probably not, because I am not sure what Punisher's current load out is. I know I saw him using Pym's helmit and particles to shrink himself. But you question wasn't could he it was should he :)


Post by Emperor Gonzo Noir (3,967 posts) See mini bio

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last month would have said the Hood, but he's grown on me, so have him kill Menace or a Brand New Day villain


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HIMSELF!

One of my favorite lines in the movie was the lady telling him "Who punishes you?!"

I don't know it kind of made sense to me XD


Post by burr787 (1,756 posts) See mini bio

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@Death's smile (Miles Grins): agreed


Post by geraldthesloth (22,017 posts) See mini bio

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@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
" last month would have said the Hood, but he's grown on me, so have him kill Menace or a Brand New Day villain "
I would be happy if the hood was dead.


Post by SUNMAN (4,810 posts) See mini bio

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I know a lot of people hate Stark in this thread, but it is not like he broke the law. Technically, speaking the heroes on Caps side were breaking the law by going againts the United States government and resisting arrest. Now realistically speaking the initiative wasn't awful. It had some good points and would of been a good law except for 3 or 4 major issues.

  • The only things that made it terrible was, forcing superheroes to reveal their identity to the general public (if heroes only revealed their identities to shield and made sure they were not leaked it would be okay. So only the shield and maybe the president had access to them.
  • Forcing heroes to work for the government instead of giving them the option to retire or do some other job, this part gets complicated, but it was a big flaw of the initiative
  • than the initiative employing super villains, which I still don't fully understand






Post by Serpent (128 posts) See mini bio

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Tony Stark.
Reed Richards.

I'm not even going to go into all the reasons they are dictators, fascists, criminals.  This is a comic book site, and people won't change their opinions, even in the face of overwhelming fact.


Post by Rothschild (900 posts) See mini bio

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Oh heres another one.. THE ENTIRE SKRULL RACE!!! God I hate those Wrinkly chinned @$$Holes






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