YNCG's Halo Throwdown: Master Chief vs. Boba Fett (Debate)

>> MASTER CHIEF VS. BOBA FETT <<

Rules

  • Both contestants are in character.
  • Standard elimination rules.
  • Random encounter.
  • Start 30 feet apart.
  • Neither John nor Boba know about their opponent's presence.
  • Master Chief has an Assault Rifle, 2 SMGs, 5 grenades, and an Energy Sword.
  • Boba Fett has his standard equipment.
  • Opponents cannot destroy the ship.

Setting

Takes place on the map Hijacked from Black Ops 2.

Debate in this thread until next Friday (10/25/13), and then I will put up the voting thread for one day. Once the voting is done, I will post a thread with the winner in a scenario written by me based on the votes and debate. One good argument for each character will be quoted and included in the thread revealing the victor.

Happy Debating!

22 Comments
22 Comments
Edited by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones
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Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek
Posted by Deathstroke19

I'm not going to comment yet but all i know is that this is going to be controversial lol. Im not saying its bad its just going to make it more interesting.

Posted by KingOfAsh

MAster Chief

Edited by dccomicsrule2011

This should be good. I will post but Boba Fett is not one of my strong suites in EU.

I defer @fetts in this category.

Edited by k4tzm4n
Staff Online
Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@k4tzm4n said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: I moved it to battles via mobile but that also messed up the format a bit :/

YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING.

Just kidding I got this. Thanks for moving it brother.

Edited by GraniteSoldier

This is pretty awesome, I love both of these guys. Honestly though, I think Chief can scrap out a majority. His armor is much tougher than Fetts, his body is much tougher than Fetts, he's been trained in strategy and tactics ranging the span of Earth's history since a child, has taken on what seems like entire armies and come out on top. Fett's big advantages here are mobility, better weaponry, and the fact that he is experienced with Jedi and super-soldier types due to his interactions with dozens if not hundreds of different alien races. Both have extreme tech that make stealth difficult (motion sensors, thermals, etc). Its narrow but I think Chief can take this just due to physical stats and durability in the end. His armor and shield are above Fett's Mandalorian, and Fett's weaponry isn't that much better than the Covanent/Forerunner tech in my opinion. Plus he's not dumb, he's not going to stand out in the open and let Fett pepper him. Once he runs out of ammo (which he will) Fett will cautiously but aggressively clear whatever structure John is in, and at close range Fett is outmatched in strength, speed, and the energy sword is pretty much par with a lightsaber - i.e. it'll cut through just about anything.

I'm going to say Chief 7/10, because Fett is a survivor and very crafty. The man has held up against Jedi and various aliens and sure-death scenarios, so it is impossible to simply count him out.

Edited by Fetts

@dccomicsrule2011: Thanks brah!

While I am a Boba Fett expert, I am by no means an expert on Master Chief. I've only Halo once in my entire life at a friend's house (it was Halo 1 and IV). So keep in mind that my assessment of this battle is based off a rough understanding of Master Chief.

That said, I do believe Boba has Master Chief grossly outmatched in terms of weaponry. Here's the difference between Boba and Chief: Both have some great durability. Master Chief has his energy shields, while Boba has his Mandalorian armor. But Boba has many means of getting through Chief's defenses, while Chief has few in comparison, especially in this scenario. Boba's Mandalorian armor is not to be underestimated. It has tanked blaster bolts effortlessly, practically tanked a direct impact from a small missile, has withstood his own flamethrower, and has gotten out of a speeder accident with minimal injuries. Meanwhile, based off my multiplayer experience, assault rifles (which doesn't seem to be that powerful) and SMGs (a tad better in terms of their power) seem to get through energy shields with relative ease. For the most part, I don't believe Jon's guns have a powerful enough effect to get through Boba's armor. Maybe after many magazines, he'll be able to. But he wouldn't be able to get through Boba's armor as easily as Boba could get through his. John's only prayer is his grenades. But with that armor and jetpack speed to boot, I don't think they'll be taking Boba down any time soon.

Boba has arguably one of the most lethal arsenals in the world of street-levelers. From mini-concussion missiles which can be powerful enough to obliterate a gigantic droid, to a sonic detonator, to that gnarly EE-3 Carbine Rifle which literally has a "disintegration" mode (hence that famous saying from Vader "No disintegrations"), Boba has lots of firepower and he knows how to use it.

Keep in mind that this is the most fearless bounty hunter in the galaxy. People think that he's a total n00b since he got his butt handed to him by a blind Han Solo. But this isn't Movie Boba Fett. This is EU Boba Fett. Boba Fett in the Expanded Universe has defeated Jedi like Rahm Kota, Jaina Solo, and even a deformed Starkiller clone which nearly speed blitzed him. In close combat. This is consistent with the fact that Boba was trained by his father Jango, the man who killed 20 Jedi with his bare hands! Powerful and influential people like Darth Vader and Jabba the Hutt have Boba on speed dial because they know he's the best.

So now that I've established that Boba isn't the amateur some people take him out to be, let me also reiterate on another advantage Boba has here: flight. Boba's got a jetpack. Whereas Master Chief can only jump higher than most people. That jetpack has the maneuverability to avoid a volley of X-Wing and Y-Wing blaster cannon fire. Boba has a huge speed and mobility advantage with that jetpack here. With it, he could fly circles around Master Chief and rain down hell on him.

Another thing I want to point out is that Boba is a bounty hunter. The guy has numerous ways of detecting Master Chief via infrared, audio filters, etc.

In conclusion, I think Boba pulls out a solid victory over Chief. John might have him bested in overall physique, but I don't think that'll be able to come to play here very much. Boba's an impressive gunslinger himself, and I see Boba's arsenal and speed/mobility advantages just being too much for Master Chief here.

Posted by Fetts

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek Brilliant idea btw man! I've had a similar idea with pitting Boba Fett against numerous opponents. But I think I'm going to wait until I have Photoshop first.

Posted by Redmonkeyssj4

Boba, his basic equipment is enough to overwhelm even Chief....

Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@fetts: Haha thanks! I'll drop some feats down for Chief so you can have a better understanding of him.

Strength

  • Dr.Halsey saying the training and augmentations will improve the SPARTAN-II candidates.
  • John and his teammates, fresh after augmentation, dent and take down improved UNSC exoskeletons.
  • MJOLNIR Armor improves general statistics (strength, speed, reaction speed, etc.) by a factor of five.
  • James, a SPARTAN-II, loses an arm to plasma but helps move a multi-ton monolith regardless (in old MJOLNIR armor).
  • Rips off Machine Gun Turrent with ease.

Speed

  • Outrunning an aerial aircraft's machine-gun fire.
  • Deflects a missile brought unto by the SkyHawk jet.
  • An average human has a reaction time of 200 milliseconds. Chief has 20 millisecond reaction time (faster in combat), making him ten times quicker than a human. This is Chief without armor.
  • Inside the MJOLNIR armor, strength, speed, and more are amplified by a factor of five.
  • Master Chief dodging plasma fire.

Durability

  • Deflects missile from jet, then absorbs the splash damage without any problem(s).
  • John's shields and armor tanks tons of Covenant plasma fire.
  • Maria, a SPARTAN-II with the same MJOLNIR armor as John has, endures atmospheric re-entry with no problem (over 4000 ft.)
  • In two separate instances (pg.105 and pg.143) absorbs the damage of Fuel Rod Cannon fire, the Covenant equal of Rocket Launchers.

Skill

  • Even as a child, John overpowers other kids in a game of King of the Hill.
  • Speed-blitzes/neutralizes Orbital Drop Shock Troopers, who are the very elite of the UNSC Forces, whilst holding back.
  • Slaughtering tons of Covenant forces.

Posted by Fetts

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Wow! That was some pretty awesome stuff! Master Chief is a boss I'll give you that. My assessment still stands though. I know Master Chief has a better physique than Boba. But Boba has dealt with superhuman speed and strength (Jedi, hunter trainer droids, etc.) before. And I still think Boba's arsenal is superior to Chief's. Again though, awesome stuff there!

Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@fetts: That's the thing: I'm not sure if Boba's arsenal, though superior, is enough to beat down Chief. His shields are super durable and the rockets that Boba launches will have to be a direct hit to completely take down his shields. Also not to mention Chief has his own "jetpack" of his own called the Thruster Pack. He doesn't use it nearly as much as Boba does, but if the time comes, I think he'll utilize it more.

Edited by Fetts

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: I disagree. Small explosives like this

overrode his shields.

Here are showcases of some of Boba's weaponry. I'm sure you've seen some of these before:

(Note: Read each row from right to left)

Obliterates one absolutely gigantic droid
While the explosion wasn't as destructive as it appears, it did have quite the effect on Darth Vader. Who himself has superhuman durability
Badassery anyone?
Sonic detonator

A showcase of the mini-concussion missile on a much smaller setting

Blows up an alleyway

His flamethrower has enough concussive force to snap large, thick chains

Revealed that Boba's jetpack missile packs an ion charge, which is similar to an EMP. This could be useful in this particular fight.
EE-3 Carbine Blaster Rifle obliterates a large vehicle

Disintegrates a man with his EE-3 Carbine Blaster Rifle

Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@fetts said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: I disagree. Small explosives like this

That's actually a SkyHawk jet missile. Not a small explosive. Those are anti-tank missiles. The missile was also tracking him, and he couldn't dodge it. Boba Fett's missiles should be a lot easier to dodge.

Here are showcases of some of Boba's weaponry. I'm sure you've seen some of these before:

(Note: Read each row from right to left)

Obliterates one absolutely gigantic droid
While the explosion wasn't as destructive as it appears, it did have quite the effect on Darth Vader. Who himself has superhuman durability

That's impressive, but the droid doesn't have as much protection as Master Chief does. His armor is capable of tanking drops from 4000 feet in the air. He's also tanked Fuel Rod Cannon shots, which are the Covenant's superior to the UNSC's Rocket Launcher. They can pretty much completely melt an armored UNSC trooper.

  • Example 1
  • Example 2
Badassery anyone?
Sonic detonator

Here's another feat of him tanking tons of damage.

  • Chief endures more than a dozen direct Plasma Bolt shots.

Also, I think Chief could outrun both the explosives and the sonic detonator.

  • Runs half a kilometer in 17 seconds with a torn Achilles tendon.

By the way how does the sonic detonator work?

A showcase of the mini-concussion missile on a much smaller setting

Blows up an alleyway

His flamethrower has enough concussive force to snap large, thick chains

Master Chief's armor is actually already able to withstand extreme temperatures.

Hydrotastic Gel: Underneath the armored bodysuit is a gel-filled layer, this gel layer regulates the temperature of the suit and can re actively change its density to conform to the wearer's shape - the temperature inside the suit is controlled by the moisture absorbing cloth suit underneath the hydrostatic layer. The hydrostatic gel layer can also be pressurized to various levels to potentially save the wearers life should the wearer be subjected to high G forces or a high velocity impact; however, over pressurizing this layer can cause nitrogen embolisms.

John has already tanked Fuel Rod Cannons, Forerunner weaponry, falling from near-orbit onto Earth, etc.

Not sure if you saw this feat but Maria, another SPARTAN-II with the same armor Chief has, falls 4000 feet, and is unscathed.

All her vital signs were fine, and she was able to snipe her opponents while she was free-falling. This is a SPARTAN-II who got only one comic. Imagine what Chief could do.

Revealed that Boba's jetpack missile packs an ion charge, which is similar to an EMP. This could be useful in this particular fight.

Actually the EMP's won't work on Chief. In fact, almost every Covenant weapon that uses plasma has a built-in EMP function, hence why in gameplay, if you charge up a Plasma Pistol and it makes contact, it shuts a vehicle down. Seeing as he was hit by over a dozen of them as shown above, EMP's shouldn't be a problem.

- From the Halo Wikia

...it is primarily used to disable equipment/energy shielding. Also, because of the extreme temperatures released, a vehicle running on a hydrogen engine, or one that is lightly covered, can be damaged or disabled if the overcharged bolt hits it—in addition to the high temperatures, the electromagnetic bottle containing the plasma can produce an EMP which can disable many various electronic devices within range.

So yeah Chief's armor is pretty OP.

Edited by Fetts

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek

That's actually a SkyHawk jet missile. Not a small explosive. Those are anti-tank missiles. The missile was also tracking him, and he couldn't dodge it. Boba Fett's missiles should be a lot easier to dodge.

Dude. Look at the explosion. It was small. The blast radius was a little bigger than his own body.

That's impressive, but the droid doesn't have as much protection as Master Chief does. His armor is capable of tanking drops from 4000 feet in the air. He's also tanked Fuel Rod Cannon shots, which are the Covenant's superior to the UNSC's Rocket Launcher. They can pretty much completely melt an armored UNSC trooper.

But it still very large and clearly holds a lot of destructive power. As for that "drop through the atmosphere" feat, you'll notice how Maria was using her pack as a shield. Furthermore, Maria used a parachute. And to go even further, it's not the heat of an explosion or a blaster bolt that's the problem. It's the concussive force they contain.

Getting his ass knocked to the ground constantly by these blasts isn't quite "tanking". While it's impressive that he's not dead, they still harm him. And Boba has similar setting on his EE-3 Carbine blaster rifle.

Here's another feat of him tanking tons of damage.

  • Chief endures more than a dozen direct Plasma Bolt shots.

Firstly, that's not quite tanking. Secondly, Boba has tanked blaster bolts effortlessly.

Read from right to left

Also, I think Chief could outrun both the explosives and the sonic detonator.

  • Runs half a kilometer in 17 seconds with a torn Achilles tendon.

By the way how does the sonic detonator work?

With Boba's reflexes, speed, air superiority, cunning, and marksmanship/gunslinging skills? And with a compact environment like this? I doubt it. I see Boba Fett shooting where Chief is going to be rather than where he was. Boba's smart like that.

You press the button. It detonates a second later.

Actually the EMP's won't work on Chief. In fact, almost every Covenant weapon that uses plasma has a built-in EMP function, hence why in gameplay, if you charge up a Plasma Pistol and it makes contact, it shuts a vehicle down. Seeing as he was hit by over a dozen of them as shown above, EMP's shouldn't be a problem.

Fair enough.

Posted by Cjdavis103

As much as I love Master chief I really don't see how his primitive weapons can pierce Boba's armor. the only way that Chief wins is if he can get to hand to hand range with Boba. I he can get to hand to had range Boba is dead no if ands or buts. but as it stands Chief would lose as he simply has no way to hurt Boba at a distance. If he had covenant weapons or bigger UNSC ( we are talking missile launcher, Spartan laser and rail gun level) guns then that would be a different story.

Posted by Deathstroke19

@fetts: Wow well i was always leaning towards fett but sheesh you made it look easy. R u a big Star Wars fan or just a fett fan?

Edited by Fetts

@deathstroke19: Well. What can I say? I'm an experienced Boba Fett fan ;)

I don't have a vast expertise on all things Star Wars, but Boba Fett isn't the only Star Wars character that I'm well-versed with.

Edited by Deathstroke19

Lol well from one fellow Star Wars fan to another nice debate! You also have an awesome avatar. Your reward is one follow!

Posted by reikai

John-117 takes this. Fetts gear isn't superior, just more compact. Technically Fett's armor is more durable, but John's gives him more. John also has tracking systems and various detection systems. So Fett isn't hiding either. Not to mention John is a hell of a lot more stealthy than Fett is. Fett may be the best bounty hunter of his era (not saying much), but John is literally a super soldier.