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Cyborg - Not gonna lie, nice to be represented

  1. Flash
  2. Green Lantern
  3. Martian Manhunter
  4. Batman
  5. Wonder Woman
  6. Cyborg
  7. Superman
  8. Aquaman

Nice to see that not everyone puts Cyborg last.

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#2  Edited By xybernauts

In this order...

  1. Static Shock
  2. Aqualad
  3. Rocket
  4. Icon
  5. Steel
  6. Firestorm

But I love N52 Cyborg the most.

@black_panther18 said:
@stahlflamme said:

Does martian manhunter count?

He's always portrayed by an black actor, so maybe. . . even though he is Martian. The OP did just say black superheroes, not human black superheroes, so yeah maybe MM counts.

No he doesn't count, he's a shapeshifter. He can be white, asian, hispanic, etc. or anything he wants, but in the end his real color is green.

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I think it could be cool if done right. For example in Cyborg #5 he did it while teleporting into the middle of a battle. I really liked it.

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Who cares about Cyborg?

Who doesn't?

Maybe not in JL 1. Let the dude get use to the fact that he doesn't have a D*** anymore.

He doesn't need to mourn his d***, he's been upgraded to a vibrator.

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In addition to a Punisher and Moon Knight TV series I'd like to see a Midnight Sons TV series featuring Ghost Rider, Blade, and Johnny Blaze. I imagine a type of superheroic like biker gang along the same vein as Supernatural.

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#5  Edited By xybernauts

@time: I agree. The early 90's had some pretty good books in my opinion. I enjoyed the creation and development of Cable's character and his relationship with X-Force and Stryfe. The original Age of Apocalypse was great. It was the late 90's that stunk.

I didn't really read any X-Men stories during the first millennium. I tried but it didn't keep my interest. I particularly hated the black movie style X-Men costumes though. I tried Age of M, but I think that story really was terrible.

As for AvX I actually like that story. It got me reading X-Men comics again and the story made sense. I also liked BOTA. I enjoyed the twisted temporal nature were we see various timelines getting tangled. To me time travel is a major cornerstone of X-Men comics so to me it was getting back to the roots of what made X-Men comics great with a number of interesting twists.

My only problem with BOTA is that the time travel concept isn't coherent. In one scene original Cyclops dies and as a result present Cyclops ceases to exist. Yet when that healer mutant brings him back to life he reappears. The problem is that this suggests whatever happens to the original X-Men immediately effects the present and future X-Men and yet we haven't seen any other major changes to the timeline. Despite these flukes I still enjoyed the story.

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#6  Edited By xybernauts

Great article! Truthfully, I just read this article today after reading JL #23 and finding out Outsider was Alfred of Earth 3, but regardless there are so many connections that the article makes that I didn't make while reading the story. This article really did a good job of putting two and two together for me. Also great background info.

The one thing i'm not sure about is the theory regarding the idea that Apokalypse invaded Earth 3's earth. Technically if all the villians in earth 3 are heroes and all the heroes are villians doesn't that mean earth 3 denizeins of Apokalipse are good guys? And if they are doesn't that mean they wouldn't invade and decimate earth 3 earth? Unless of course they invaded earth 3's earth to save it from the Crime Sydicate and something went wrong. Also another possibility is that that it's New Haven that invaded earth 3's earth.

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Personally after Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3 I don't blame him. I think he wants to do quality work and don't want to be associated with shit.

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#8  Edited By xybernauts
  • I think Cheadles portrayal of Rhodey was a real improvement. I loved his action scenes. Wish he had more both in and out of armor. (Technically he had no real in armor action scenes).
  • Love the remote armor concept. And I agree, JARVIS was portrayed well.
  • I also enjoyed the romance between Stark and Pepper. And I liked seeing Pepper in armor. She should have her own custom armor.
  • I also enjoyed Stark's Avenger's induced PTSD.
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@thetimestreamer: Lol yeah I never knew the mandarin had so many fans. Some are legitimately mad, but I believe there are many that are simply hating this movie just to hate it. Lol

Also, how'd you like Jarvis in this movie? I can't overestimate how well they handled him. I loved him in this movie. Him and tony fit together amazingly. I wonder if he has that big of a role in the comics. If not, he definitely should.

I think it's less of an actual fan base and more of an expectation. Basically people expect the Mandarin to be Iron Man's arch enemy. If anything he's supposed to be Iron Man's Magneto or his Joker. People don't hate movies just to hate them, people just have different tastes. They have different expectations. I for one was expecting Stark's greatest nemesis. Plus the fact that the trailer was misleading didn't help. The movie was touted as being Stark's greatest battle, but instead it was a dud. Plus the story lacked focus. It felt like the movie was going some where significant, but it didn't really. It had a lackluster end.

Before the twist, the terrorist Mandarin actually seemed like a really good idea. Ben Kingsley's performance was really good. For along time now Marvel has been experimenting with different aspects of his character. I really liked this extremist direction, but really wish they kept his character serious in a Magneto-ish sort of way. Basically I hated the twist.

Also, after the Avenger's I was expecting to see magic introduced into the Iron Man world. The fact that it wasn't was a big disappointment.

The movie was shit, but it had some good elements.

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Wow. 4 out of 5?? Thought it was just a bad movie. The first half felt like an extended trailer with it’s complete lack of focus and melodrama. The plot was over crowded, and unfocused with no real villain to latch onto. And while there were definitely some awesome moments of action and genuinely funny moments, there was way too much squeezed in that felt completely irrelevant And there was no blend between the over-serious plot and the over the top ridiculousness of the humorous bits, it felt like a checkerboard of campy comedy and overly political drama.

We had the Extremis, the Mandarin, the Iron Patriot, Aldrich Killian, Tony’s post-Avengers PTSD, Tony/Pepper, and that kid. So there was A LOT going on in this movie. And it was really just too much. They could’ve picked one plot point and gone for it. I really hated what they did with the Mandarin too.

I completely agree.

Personally I don't know if Marvel purposely screws up these movies to lower expectations for future movies or if they honestly think this is quality material. This movie was better than Iron Man 2, but worse than Iron Man 1.

The biggest disappointment was that there was no real "Big Bad" in the movie. We had AIM and the Mandarin, but the movie never really developed AIM and the Mandarin isn't even really the Mandarin, literally. The trailer leads one to believe that the Mandarin was going to be Stark's greatest foe, but instead he turns out to be a big nobody. It's sad because I really liked this terrorist version of the Mandarin. I was expecting to see something on par with Loki or Red Skull. A real Marvel villain. I would have prefered the chinese sorcerer, but this terrorist version of the Mandarin still had a lot of potential, but even that amounted to nothing. The concept of the AIM think tank could have been really awesome, but instead we get two superficial characters who represent the entire group. They should have developed the think tank more thoroughly.

I did like the way they developed the Extremis concept. I also liked Pepper's and Stark's romance. Don Cheadle did a much better job as Rhodey. I'm glad that he got some action scenes in, but I wish we got a chance to see him really kickass in his Iron Patriot suit. The barrage of Iron Man suits was a welcome twist. It just pisses me off that Stark destroys all his suits at the end of the movie.

I really thought the kid was unnecessary. If they really need to add a kid to the movie then they should have added someone from the comics. The kids acting wasn't bad, but his placement felt forced. His presence was part of the reason the movie was derailed.

I hated the scenes with Happy Hogan. The acting was terrible and irritated the hell out of me. When he got hit by the bomb I was hoping that he died and was disappointed that he was just wounded. I mean after Daredevil, you'd think Marvel would have the common sense to keep Favreau away from acting on the big screen.

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#10  Edited By xybernauts

3/5 stars

This movie was better than Iron Man 2, but worse than Iron Man 1. Iron Man 1 was the best IM movie. This movie certainly is not better than The Avengers. Avengers is the best superhero movie ever.

The villains in Iron Man 2 were better. AIM was very disappointing. It would have been nice if they developed the characters, particularly the brains behind the think tank.

I agree with @isaac_clarke: there was some good character development, but the movie didn't flow very well. The movie seemed to lack focus. Also, like @isaac_clarke: said, the humor "conflicted with the flow of the film at times due to it's frequent usage."

I hated the Mandarin twist. Ben Kingsley was doing such a great job developing the villainous sinister aspects of the Mandarin's character. I thought it was a really good idea to create a terrorist version of the Mandarin so the twist was a big let down.

I did like the way they developed the Extremis concept.

Don Cheadle did a much better job as Rhodey.