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@jayc1324: Watch the fight again, Thor's not going all out, he tries multiple times to restrain Hulk and pleads to Banner to think and remember they're not enemies. I mean Thor was fighting without Mjolnir for a lot of it.

Batroc, his showing against Cap was cool, and no I wasn't impressed by Ozy beating up a past his prime threesome of Dan, Rors, and Comedian.

"But he caught a bullet!"

Let's just ignore the fact that Thor was holding back and trying to calm Hulk down.

Cap's too strong, and Anakin is too emotional.

Bruce in his prime was overwhelmed by dogs, couldn't put down Joker, and only defeated Ra's through running away and his suit.

Bane beat Batman both times, rather easily. An in prime Batman wouldn't have fared much better to be honest. His "skill" involved a lucky strike to bust up Bane's mask.

@dextersinister: You made a point in addressing how often Doom loses, I was just wondering why even mention that when it should be obvious why he is losing.

He could bfr him and end it that way.

The Batman bias has gotten a bit ridiculous. Who is the better fighter, it's Cap by far, it's not who is the better fighter when they're both equal (they're not equal and Cap would murder him easily). It's not who is the better fighter against a group of feat-less ninjas in the mountains, or who needed help to defeat Bane.

Batman didn't even beat anyone of merit in the trilogy. If you want to get all specific, without his suit Ra's would have killed him on the train. Without help from numerous people Bane would have and should have killed him, and in their second fight needed a lucky (hence no skill involved, but try to spin it) punch to bust Bane's mask up, and still didn't put him down (thanks Catwoman!), and actually didn't have the greatest showing against Joker.

Bat's did make a fool of numerous feat-less cops, ninjas, thugs, and other people.

Link destroys him.

He's a villain, as such he has to lose a lot more than he wins. Do the villains on DC Earth repeatedly beat heroes, I must have missed all those victories.

He's also taken over the world more than once (not that greatest accomplishment but still) and grown bored with it, he's had to help beings above him power wise and heroes before. Doom isn't a chump, nor would he solo DC Earth, but he'd be a threat in time.