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@dogsrus: need.

1) Haku reflecting through mirrors is LS, not his physical movement or reactions. Haku could barely keep up with Sasuke outside of his mirrors. As I've stated before, nothing in Naruto verse comes close to statuing light, again not just reacting, but literally statuing.

2) She's dead

3) BC still negs, as I've been saying.

@dogsrus:

No...Your're not showing anything dude, you're pulling numbers out of thin air and the verse has nothing close to statuing light, no amount of made up fan calcs will change that

Btw Kaguya is canoncally dead, and i've already linked the scan, so much for "immortality"

@dogsrus:

Now you're pulling numbers out of thin air, you're probably new to CV, we got by feats, not fan calcs that you randomly generated. And bruh what is this formatting? Ntw if you missed it in my last reply, Kaguya is canoncally dead so nuch for "immortality"

BC negs.

@dogsrus:

ap is not close the best feat in bc is continental the best feat in naruto is etso which is atleast solar system

TOS is hax, which has already been explained, so I have no idea why you're still parroting that raw AP argument, not to mention BC already has various forms existence erasurethat's more layered. Glamour world alone is far larger than any of Kaguya's dimension since it's infinite in size, Dorothy can easily trap her in glamour world since the passive drowziness will pull her into an eternal sleep, nor are her TSO every erased anything of that size.

Mind you, both devil host Morris and Yami destroyed glamour which is canocally infinite in size. Dorothy even created moons in glamour world, so TSO won't be an issue considering BC has a larger scaled hax, and just so you know TSO does not scale anywhere near her physicals. And let's not forget, anti-magic is derived from anti-energy which has already negated non mana based energies, such as curses which are explicitly stated to not be magic, nor are is derived from magical power/maryoku. You should remember curses utilize curse power, not magical power Last time I checked chakra is still a supernatural substance/energy considering it's the product of physical energy, and spiritual energy. You know else is comprised of physical energy/ki and spiritual energy?(mana) Magical power/maryoku. Needless to see anti-magic is likely negating chakra since it's still supernatural based.

and i while adress speed for someone like kaguy ashe is not getting blitsed first of all she has better hax which is yin.yang creation of all things

She's getting blitzed, if Lucius is feeling generous he just locks her in time and seals her, if he's feeling not so generous she's getting erased whether it be spatial magic or time annihilation, make your choice, I mean she's already dead in verse. BTW Julius/Lucius time magic doesn't only age you to dust, stop, reverse, or verse time, they can actually destroy it via time annihilation, that's existence erasure as in, not even dust will be left behind. Considering their time magic has already erased and affected beings that are essentially immortal (like devils) Kaguya get's negged, or better yet her soul gets manipulated. Naruto verse is outhaxed by the sheer nature of their abilities, we have multiple characters that can already affect things on the conceptual level. With Vanessa's passive fate manipulation + Charmy feeding her her reserves will never run out, the black bulls at minimum aren't even getting touched.

and pre cog 360 degree vision enhanced vision can see kilometers ahead and behind etc teleportation i could name more but thats it for now for kcm naruto speed blitsed raikage who is stated ls meaning kcm naruto is already ftl then naruto gets a 10x boost from kcm2 and a 10times boost from kcm2+sagemode then a 10 times boost from so6p and kaguya blitses that same naruto several times

That's nice, they still get countered by the BC characters which are much faster, and various characters have forms of precog whether it be Asta, Yami, the Ryuzen 7 or even Lucius/Julius. Zetten gives Asta and the other zetten users a 20-100x boost (doubt it would it even be needed) and we have enough ki users to react to Kaguya before she even moves since they have precog.

and for more feats base naruto was dodging light beams mid air in the last and kaguya is many times faster than her or ms sasuke dodging mifunes lightspeed sword etc so she is in their speed range easily

Yeah, all of this is pretty much irrelevant considering BC has much superior speed feats, Naruto verse are literally statues. Berserk Asta statued gravitational waves/lensing + light + his own attack at the same time, mind you gravitational waves propagate/dissipate at light speed, that's exponentially faster than anything in Naruto, they're literally statues, dodging light is child's play.

@dogsrus: BC has better hax, speed and arguably better AP, Ignoring them won't change that.

Lol Clover Kingdom is washing Konoha, Kaguya included.

@masterbuster666:

How does she scale higher in speed or AP when:

1) Devil Bargain Asta had the AP to damage 80% Dante while None of Noelle's attacks harmed 70% Vanica until Undine snuck into her grimoire?

2) How does Noelle scale faster in speed when Berserk Asta, which scales below his devil bargain form was able to tag a teleportating Dante? as well as statue light, gravity waves and his own attack in the process?

Yami stated Asta's right arm was radiating anti-magic, which would disturb her Valkyrie armor.

Devil arm Asta was essentially a partial djinn equip of DU.

@edgelord91:

We don't have any official statements but I don't even think that's an issue. Asta's description can be interpreted as spatial cutting. Asta stated it "chooses what to cut" and that "it's a katana that doesn't cut, what it wants to protect" it said nothing about excluding space from the target, especially since we know that various types of attacks can target space, some of them being sword attacks and or other.

And there is definitely spatial manipulation considering his attacks do not travel horizontally, it spawns as he cuts.

@edgelord91:

Because cutting through space can still be countered by warping it, just like Yami's dimension slash was warped via space. Adding more power to it resist spatial warps.

And also zetten doesn't just increase the power of the attack, but it also increases the speed said attack is released. So Asta will cut from point A to point B faster, hence why he used it.

Not to mention, when Asta used in on Yosuga, it's made pretty clear it was a cut of anti-magic, just like when Zenon used Danslief to cut through space, the same "skash" sfx is used to indicate the spatial cuts. Infinite slash works like dimension slash with the added parameter of Asta choosing what target he wants to slice through via space. So yes its selective cutting via choosing which space you want to cut.

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@edgelord91:

I'm not so sure about the cutting space thing. Asta himself described it as selective cutting. Any statements directly saying he has yami's power?

We have something a bit better than statements, we actual feats of spatial tears.

Whenever Asta's slashes travel a measurable distance, not only do they have speed lines or trails of anti-magic, but when they connect there's always an sfx (sound effects) that indicates when the slash cuts through something and that sfx is "skash"

For example, when Asta sliced up freezing sun, the "skash" sfx wasn't used until the slash actually sliced through the attack, not when it traveled or missed, slashes that travel use different sfx

Infinite slash doesn't travel measurable distance, its a slash that manifest on the area of target and cuts from point A to point to B,and we have multiple instances of this.

When Ichika sliced through the 5 headed dragon, it's made pretty clear that her slashes actually do travel. While when Asta sliced through with demon-slasher in DU, there are no traveling slashes of anti-magic, just anti-magic splurting out from the edges of the area that was cut.

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Moreover, when Asta first used infinite slash on worm Lucifero, there was no path of travel. The slash just manifested as a cut on the area of target, and the sfx "skash" is used when they connect, not miss. The ground beneath Asta is untouched. It's not a slash that travels horizontally.

And there's also the fact that it cutthrough a physically warped space

And then again, During Asta's training montage with Yosuga from the Ryuzen. Asta gears up to use infinite slash amped zetten however Yosuga is evades before Asta even delivered the attack. Despite missing Yosuga its made clear that space is cut with the "skash" sfx and what we see is a black spatial tear of anti-magic.