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#1 Edited by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

Dexter stomps.

#2 Edited by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

DS Sentry.

#3 Posted by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god: J'onn and Despero are both > Nate. Also it's not that simple as he can just come back, no one else has so Nate is no exception. Actually it destroyed cobalt blue, who is an energy being as poweful as Nate in his energy form, so Nate isn't immune to it's effects. As for the psionic energy, can you prove it's different in marvel. It's energy and has been manipulated as such. Wally should have no issue affecting it, so unless you have a scan that differentiates it from other forms then it stands. Like I said, Wally could go back into the past and kill Nate in far less time than it would take Nate to fire neurons and begin formulating an offensive. However it's not really in Waly to kill or mess with time travel ramifications. Thus a stalemate. Unless Nate can be physically harmed in his physical form, in which case he obviously loses.

Nate has multiversal telepathic feats, he stomps Despero, and Jon in that field. He's handpicked the essence of various beings over the multiverse at once, and merged them. Furthermore, Nate was classified as having the psionic output of a phoenix force empowered Jean. This was before he even achieved his Shaman status. And I stil don't see the speedforce being an issue for Nate. He can literally bend time, and space. And beings has tried to affect Nate physically, an couldn't. Unless wally has any time of divinity good luck with that. Secondly time traveling would be useless for Wally since Nate is a far superior time manipulator. Moreover he is from an alternate Universe. Nate could literally stop time and blast bobby to atoms. Furthermore he has incapacitated other beings by shutting off their powers. And then Nate could just body hop into Wally.

#4 Posted by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_insignia1 said:

@supermanwithatan01 said:

@x_insignia1: the speed force isn't just a universe or dimension you can just leave and has nothing to do with power. Besides Pisboy prime of course. It literally changes you, I'll look for the scan that talks about how it affects characters when inside.

It is a dimension, it produces extra-dimensional energies. It's been stated. I don't see what's so hard to grasp about that. As I said, Nate is an expert at traversing dimensions/other universes.

It's must be difficult to grasp, you don't seem to know anything about it. Or which one you're even using.

even in the new 52 the speed force was displayed as a separate dimension in the early Flash 52 comics, its even been depicted that way in pre-52. It's a dimension that powers all speedsters. In a way it's even been referenced as a version of heaven for the speedsters. I've told you what's what, If you feel you can provide a better explanation go ahead, till then the point still stands that speed-force dumping is useless.

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@ssj_god said:

umm .. it isn't the case though.. see the scan i posted about nate's psionic form... his host body was unconscious that time when it came out.. it doesn't matter if the body freezes completely or even dies, nate's psionic form will come out from the body, it's independent of body's status (giving the scan below again)

But it isn't the same as being unconscious. It is literally not being able to do anything.Nate's subconscious cannot even think- which it can when one is unconscious. And that scan shows Nate in a coma, right? Well, subconscious is still up and at em in a coma. You've shown no evidence that the body can die and he'd go psionic.

The unconscious body wasn't Nate, it was a host. If you read the full arc from the beginning you would see that he was inhabiting a random kids body via body hopping.

#7 Posted by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_insignia1: the speed force isn't just a universe or dimension you can just leave and has nothing to do with power. Besides Pisboy prime of course. It literally changes you, I'll look for the scan that talks about how it affects characters when inside.

It is a dimension, it produces extra-dimensional energies. It's been stated. I don't see what's so hard to grasp about that. As I said, Nate is an expert at traversing dimensions/other universes.

#8 Posted by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@reactor said:

Couldn't Wally just trap Nate into the Speed Force?

would be useless since Nate casual universe/dimension jumps on his own.

#9 Posted by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

Furthermore, even if Nate still manages to get his speed stolen, the spead steal does not impair, or retard thought/mind because when inertia was had his speed stolen his eyes were still moving around, his comprehension was still normal, however his movements were for the most part statue like. Therefore even if Nate has his speed stolen he could still access his abilities via thought.

#10 Posted by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultragreenboy

without his psi form then yeah. However Shaman Nate at his peak remained in his psi-form for the most part.