Wyldsong

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@jashro44 said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@wyldsong: He remorsefully killed those hydra agents, he could of ran but didn't or he could knocked them out but didn't instead he just pretty much was killing them with every punch. The only thing that stops him from killing Davos is because of who he is. Hell the only reason he became the Iron Fist is so he could kill some old man.

He knows hydra agents are actually bad. Not sure about this old man but it sounds like he knew this old man was bad too. He knows nothing about savage dragon.

Here we go, let's prove how savage and remorseless Danny is, shall we?

So @jonny_anonymous, prove those are all kill shots.

Oh wait, he blasted some off a roof, right(?):

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But wait, they weren't vaporized, and there was another building just next to them. So, prove they all died. Show me this merciless killer from this first issue that I just pulled these scans from (and reviewed) that you are trying state exists. Where is all this death and bloody carnage from issue one of that series?

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@jonny_anonymous said:

@wyldsong: Em no they hadn't killed anybody and at the time the only tech they had were guns

The two instances I can think of from the series, once when there was group trying to destroy the mystic city, and the instance where Misty was kidnapped. Regardless, Hydra agents shooting at you means they are trying to kill you. There are no "ifs", "ands" and "buts" about it. If he did indeed kill them, he had a reason, they were actively trying to kill him. Dragon has no reason to try and kill him, when a KO would suffice and morals are in play.

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@shawnbaby: And yet, even the Leader doesn't have Hulk stats, and is yet another sterling example of a green skin, and another great example of just because you are green, doesn't mean you are on the Hulk's physical level. Danny is even taller than Dragon by an inch at 5'11" (not including the fin), they'll see eye to eye roughly, and Danny doesn't normally get to look at Hulk's faces on eye level...

No...The leader Doesn't have Hulk Stats...but he isn't built like the Hulk either. Dragon (aside from his lower body) is built Exactly like A Hulk. Its not really that far fetched for Danny to assume that this Hugely Built Green Skinned Man might be Hulk related....or for him to think that this immense creature might be able to take a punch. He's used his fist against weaker looking opponents.

And his ability to hit with it comes in different strengths. He can simply knock someone out, it doesn't mean he is hitting with the strength and power to bust a helicarrier every time, else everyone he hit with it would be dead.

Being green does not mean people will automatically assume he is a Hulk, and it is silly to assume otherwise.

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@easternwind: I was in that CaV and I made that respect thread=)

Regardless, from what I have seen, Spawn can travel quickly, but shouldn't be that much faster. I don't know what Downing's top feats are though.

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I can find half a billion powers for the Witchblade, and half a billion for Simmons...but I think Downing has less showings.

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@wyldsong: He remorsefully killed those hydra agents, he could of ran but didn't or he could knocked them out but didn't instead he just pretty much was killing them with every punch. The only thing that stops him from killing Davos is because of who he is. Hell the only reason he became the Iron Fist is so he could kill some old man.

Hydra agents with advanced weapons that were trying to kill him and had kidnapped Misty...again, he had a reason. Captain America has killed hydra agents...is he a remorseless killer that is going to enter every battle with the intent to kill? Carol Danvers has killed plenty of skrull agents...is she a remorseless killer that is going to enter every battle with the intent to kill? I can name a few more that have killed, but don't kill in the majority of their battles.

There is a very big distinction between being someone who just kills foes without regard, like the Punisher, and someone who has killed when there was a reason. Again, Danny is not the Punisher.

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@jonny_anonymous said:

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@indiecomicsftw said:

@wyldsong: you feel my pain yet? The assumptions in this is astounding.

Lol...yup...

@jonny_anonymous said:

Except they did stop and they did leave and obviously his villains are still alive (except some he actually did kill) because this is comics. If Danny seen a big super strong dragon man he would try and kill it especially if he didn't know anything about it.

Wrong, or else most villains (and some heroes) he faces for the first time would be dead. Danny is not the Punisher on the morality scale, and Dragon is not some slavering green beast trying to kill him. Danny has no reason to just outright ill someone here, especially when he won't be using lethal force right out of the gate himself.

Danny is not a remorseless killer. He'll kill if he has to or has reason to, but he does not enter fights with the intent to kill, or else he would be an entirely different character.

He'd kill it if he thinks the foe will kill him and Dragon could and would.

He faces many foes that could and would, and he does not just sit there and kill everyone he faces. Again, he is not the Punisher. Dragon could, he has the stats and the skill, but Dragon is not the Punisher either, and doesn't kill unless he has to, much like Danny. These are not remorseless killers, and neither has a reason to kill here.

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Under these conditions, Danny takes it.

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@indiecomicsftw said:

@wyldsong: you feel my pain yet? The assumptions in this is astounding.

Lol...yup...

@jonny_anonymous said:

Except they did stop and they did leave and obviously his villains are still alive (except some he actually did kill) because this is comics. If Danny seen a big super strong dragon man he would try and kill it especially if he didn't know anything about it.

Wrong, or else most villains (and some heroes) he faces for the first time would be dead. Danny is not the Punisher on the morality scale, and Dragon is not some slavering green beast trying to kill him. Danny has no reason to just outright ill someone here, especially when he won't be using lethal force right out of the gate himself.

Danny is not a remorseless killer. He'll kill if he has to or has reason to, but he does not enter fights with the intent to kill, or else he would be an entirely different character.