Wyldsong

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@tparks: That is a good respect thread, though I am looking to dig through every Buffy comic and see what else there is=)

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#2  Edited By Wyldsong

@lukehero: What I can say is that in one episode of the actual show, she lifted a steel i beam and carried it one handed over her shoulder while at a construction site as easily as you or I might pick up a piece of plywood. No strain, no sweating, no grunting...she just picked it up and went about her business. She is pretty fricking strong.

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@lukehero: @those_eyes: @tparks: Going by the seven seasons of the show alone(I am NOT reading the comics) she seems to be a bit above a ton in lifting strength and about 2+ tons in striking. I do remember she lifted up an ambulance door I think and smacked Warren in the head with it.

And Buffy stalemating Blade is a laugh.

And honestly I find book statements and Marvel and DC Comic Database to be rather inaccurate. Too many feats contradict what they say in terms of feats.

Buffy is probably a 2-5 tonner. I'll have to work on feat gathering for the proof. She is definitely not 20 tons, and is also above peak human. I'll try and pinpoint in a bit.

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#4  Edited By Wyldsong

@wolfrazer: Considering it has happened each time at Crystal Lake...and wait, where is this fight happening? Crystal Lake? So there are cabins and other stuff around? Interesting...

Again, he is far too slow for any truly skilled and fairly competent character. He is not facing the usual teens he slaughters with ease. This is not uber Jason, and he does not clear this battle. Yes, skill matters quite a bit when you can't touch your opponent, and they aren't going to just run around blindly into corner to get trapped and slaughtered. This list is not Jason's usual prey. These are not characters that fall for the usual horror movie blunders.

He just has to be incapacitated, something many of these characters are more than capable of doing, especially when they can see his untrained and telegraphed moves coming from a mile away.

I mean hell, he had trouble with Freddy Kreuger in the real world...and Freddy definitely was not as skilled as Hit Girl...still, he was faster and far more skilled than Jason's usual prey. Now, add some real skill to that speed factor, and Jason doesn't stand a chance.

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#5  Edited By Wyldsong

@wolfrazer: Actually it does because he has been taken down every movie by people far less skilled. People can argue it however they want, but he is far too slow, and has been taken down by far less.

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#6  Edited By Wyldsong

Definitely would back Morlun for this fight.

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Stops at 6...Austin has some mild toonforce, PIS induced ability working for him. Not to mention, his chest hair is too manly for any of Jason's weapons to pierce:

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Even IF he get's by Austin (on a more serious note), he doesn't get past Hit Girl. She is far too fast, and far more skilled than anyone who has taken old Jason down.

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@lukehero: It's not really illness, I have just felt "meh" about debating and posting. I am getting off my lazy arse though to get this running though=)

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@lukehero: @deathhero61: Sorry gang. Between tonight and tomorrow. I have just been feeling "meh" recently, but I am working up the post, and will post it soonish.

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@pr0metheus: Norman spent a loooong time prepping for Ock. Ock never had any inclination that Norman was planning all out war. Norman is more cunning but in all out resources and if both knew they had to fight the other I would take SpOck.

Got here before me with the answer. Pretty much this.